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    Default Euroleague Regular Season: Week 11

    Daçka v Maccabi
    Buducnost v Barcelona
    Zalgiris v Olympiacos
    Bayern Munich v Khimki
    Milano v Gran Canaria
    Efes v Real Madrid
    Baskonia v CSKA
    Panathinaikos v Fener


    Fenerbahçe İstanbul

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    Daçka v Maccabi 40-60
    Buducnost v Barcelona 35-65
    Zalgiris v Olympiacos 49-51
    Bayern Munich v Khimki 55-45
    Milano v Gran Canaria 60-40
    Efes v Real Madrid 45-55
    Baskonia v CSKA 45-55
    Panathinaikos v Fener 49-51

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    Games of the week ;
    Pao - Fener , Efes - Madrid
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    I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.

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    Strength of schedule so far:





    Remaining 5 games in the 1st round:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    Games of the week ;
    Pao - Fener , Efes - Madrid
    Zalgiris - Oly must be there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edvinas9 View Post
    Zalgiris - Oly must be there as well.
    I thought that as well, but Zalgris isn't as good as the previous season (lost to Barca and Khimki in Lithuania). They have a serious shooting and PG problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.
    Now you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes we were not at the top of the Europe and we were not in the Euroleague since 2007, but we were always in the Turkish league as a playoff level team for at least 30-40 years, we've TBL finals and TBL championship in 1991. The worst year for us was in 1974 and we finished league in 8th place. You can say that Fener wasn't a Euroleague team before 2007 but you can't say Fener ''almost didn't have history.'' we have, it's just not at a top level.
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    Are Llull, Chacho, Sloukas and Papapetrou ready to play?

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    The last chance for Baskonia, the team is 3-7 without confidence, if we lost vs CSKA bye bye euroleague, but if Baskonia win could be the start of the comeback for the top8, the team need a win like this vs a great team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markkanen View Post
    Are Llull, Chacho, Sloukas and Papapetrou ready to play?
    Papapetrou is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.
    If your 10 years achievements is already beyond of many others, then there is no need to look at 50-60 years ago. Fener has one euroleague title , 3 finals and 4 F4 and will add the new success to it. Also these success are much more diffucult and important than 40 years ago's time when nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    Now you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes we were not at the top of the Europe and we were not in the Euroleague since 2007, but we were always in the Turkish league as a playoff level team for at least 30-40 years, we've TBL finals and TBL championship in 1991. The worst year for us was in 1974 and we finished league in 8th place. You can say that Fener wasn't a Euroleague team before 2007 but you can't say Fener ''almost didn't have history.'' we have, it's just not at a top level.
    that's mostly true, but to stick to facts, Fener was 9th and 10th a few times, most recent in 2004.
    before the Fener-Ulker merger in 2007, basketball was secondary for all 3 major Istanbul clubs. They were always in the league, but not really ambitions except one or two years of good runs (eg. early years of Galatasaray, Fener's title in 1991 and their "dream team" in 1999).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.
    Can you please count 10 biggest clubs in Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuneyt View Post
    Can you please count 10 biggest clubs in Europe?
    easy to count.
    1 how many times a team played f4
    2 playoffs
    3 W/L % ratio during reg season
    those three parameter says who are best teams in el history, obviously must be listed just teams that partecipated el at east for 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by maccabeo View Post
    easy to count.
    1 how many times a team played f4
    2 playoffs
    3 W/L % ratio during reg season
    those three parameter says who are best teams in el history, obviously must be listed just teams that partecipated el at east for 10 years
    Like this?
    https://www.eurohoops.net/en/tradema...uroleague-era/
    https://www.thetoptens.com/best-euro...ketball-clubs/
    http://www.eurotopteams.com/basketball/club.php
    http://ballineurope.com/top-100-bask...n-europe-5871/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaunietis View Post
    Strength of schedule so far:
    Nice post, thanks.

    Shows how things are actually tougher for PAO than they might seem

    Is this your work? Or can we find it somewhere posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    I thought that as well, but Zalgris isn't as good as the previous season (lost to Barca and Khimki in Lithuania). They have a serious shooting and PG problem.



    Now you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes we were not at the top of the Europe and we were not in the Euroleague since 2007, but we were always in the Turkish league as a playoff level team for at least 30-40 years, we've TBL finals and TBL championship in 1991. The worst year for us was in 1974 and we finished league in 8th place. You can say that Fener wasn't a Euroleague team before 2007 but you can't say Fener ''almost didn't have history.'' we have, it's just not at a top level.
    For me being third or fourth club in Turkey means provincial club so on European level doesnt significant to much.
    Cuneyt I was counted .

    Maccabi
    Cska
    Real
    Panathinaikos
    Olympiacos
    Barcelona
    Partizan
    Zalgiris
    Olimpia
    Cibona
    Virtus

    Its eleven .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemanja View Post
    For me being third or fourth club in Turkey means provincial club so on European level doesnt significant to much.
    Cuneyt I was counted .

    Maccabi
    Cska
    Real
    Panathinaikos
    Olympiacos
    Barcelona
    Partizan
    Zalgiris
    Olimpia
    Cibona
    Virtus

    Its eleven .
    There's a difference between "being on provincial club level" and "not having history". First is somewhat true, even though we had some great players but never a consistent or planned success, but latter is a gross understatement. The basketball branch was founded about 100 years ago but got closed after the wars. It continued at 1944, started to win cups in 50s, also was successful at 60s. Got a long rough period due to economic struggles, came back at 80s, won first league championship at 1991. So yeah, we have a history and you don't know what you are talking about.
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
    Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
    Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
    Şampiyonluk gelince

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    There's a difference between "being on provincial club level" and "not having history". First is somewhat true, even though we had some great players but never a consistent or planned success, but latter is a gross understatement. The basketball branch was founded about 100 years ago but got closed after the wars. It continued at 1944, started to win cups in 50s, also was successful at 60s. Got a long rough period due to economic struggles, came back at 80s, won first league championship at 1991. So yeah, we have a history and you don't know what you are talking about.
    Sorry if I hurt your emotion ,but if we talk about biggest Europen level Fenerbahce almost doesnt existed on the map .On Turkish level and European average was existed .

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    What is Maccabi doing right now ? What the hell.. I dont know if any team can play worse, what is this bullsh*t...

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