Euroleague Regular Season: Week 11

[Spittifiz]

Daçka v Maccabi
Buducnost v Barcelona
Zalgiris v Olympiacos
Bayern Munich v Khimki
Milano v Gran Canaria
Efes v Real Madrid
Baskonia v CSKA
Panathinaikos v Fener

[edvinas9]

Daçka v Maccabi 40-60
Buducnost v Barcelona 35-65
Zalgiris v Olympiacos 49-51
Bayern Munich v Khimki 55-45
Milano v Gran Canaria 60-40
Efes v Real Madrid 45-55
Baskonia v CSKA 45-55
Panathinaikos v Fener 49-51

[Tevfik1907]

Games of the week ;
Pao - Fener , Efes - Madrid

[Nemanja]

I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.

[Kaunietis]

Strength of schedule so far:





Remaining 5 games in the 1st round:

[edvinas9]

Games of the week ;
Pao - Fener , Efes - Madrid

Zalgiris - Oly must be there as well.

[Tevfik1907]

Zalgiris - Oly must be there as well.

I thought that as well, but Zalgris isn't as good as the previous season (lost to Barca and Khimki in Lithuania). They have a serious shooting and PG problem.

I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.

Now you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes we were not at the top of the Europe and we were not in the Euroleague since 2007, but we were always in the Turkish league as a playoff level team for at least 30-40 years, we've TBL finals and TBL championship in 1991. The worst year for us was in 1974 and we finished league in 8th place. You can say that Fener wasn't a Euroleague team before 2007 but you can't say Fener ''almost didn't have history.'' we have, it's just not at a top level.

[markkanen]

Are Llull, Chacho, Sloukas and Papapetrou ready to play?

[jonga]

The last chance for Baskonia, the team is 3-7 without confidence, if we lost vs CSKA bye bye euroleague, but if Baskonia win could be the start of the comeback for the top8, the team need a win like this vs a great team.

[Oly_fan]

Are Llull, Chacho, Sloukas and Papapetrou ready to play?

Papapetrou is out.

[Cemalex]

I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.

If your 10 years achievements is already beyond of many others, then there is no need to look at 50-60 years ago. Fener has one euroleague title , 3 finals and 4 F4 and will add the new success to it. Also these success are much more diffucult and important than 40 years ago's time when nobody cares.

[Levenspiel]

Now you're exaggerating a little bit. Yes we were not at the top of the Europe and we were not in the Euroleague since 2007, but we were always in the Turkish league as a playoff level team for at least 30-40 years, we've TBL finals and TBL championship in 1991. The worst year for us was in 1974 and we finished league in 8th place. You can say that Fener wasn't a Euroleague team before 2007 but you can't say Fener ''almost didn't have history.'' we have, it's just not at a top level.

that's mostly true, but to stick to facts, Fener was 9th and 10th a few times, most recent in 2004.
before the Fener-Ulker merger in 2007, basketball was secondary for all 3 major Istanbul clubs. They were always in the league, but not really ambitions except one or two years of good runs (eg. early years of Galatasaray, Fener's title in 1991 and their "dream team" in 1999).

for more data on TBL, see this modest website: http://tblstat.net/history.asp

[Cuneyt]

I dindt saw question of Murat why Fenerbahce isnt amongst 10 biggest clubs in Europe.Its simply,it is club till 12 or 13 years almost didnt had history .Since last 12,13 years,Fenerbahce make big results ,with which becme biggest Turkish club ,but didnt reached level of clubs which make great results 25 till 40 years.Panathinaikos since 1995 was first club in Greece by national titles ,they won in period when basketball wasnt especially popular in Greece and Europe, but third club in Greece by results in Europe.Fenerbahce have very much many and if conitnue next 15 years,probably win 2 till 3 Euroleague and then he could consider one of 10 biggest clubs in Europe.

Can you please count 10 biggest clubs in Europe?

[maccabeo]

Can you please count 10 biggest clubs in Europe?

easy to count.
1 how many times a team played f4
2 playoffs
3 W/L % ratio during reg season
those three parameter says who are best teams in el history, obviously must be listed just teams that partecipated el at east for 10 years

[Cuneyt]

easy to count.
1 how many times a team played f4
2 playoffs
3 W/L % ratio during reg season
those three parameter says who are best teams in el history, obviously must be listed just teams that partecipated el at east for 10 years

Like this?

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/497828/10-best-teams-modern-euroleague-era/

https://www.thetoptens.com/best-european-basketball-clubs/

http://www.eurotopteams.com/basketball/club.php

http://ballineurope.com/top-100-basketball-teams-in-europe-5871/