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    Default 2019 2nd FIBA World Cup Qualifiers



    Preliminary Round

    23/11/2017 China 96 Hong Kong China 44
    26/11/2017 South Korea 81 China 92
    23/02/2018 China 73 New Zealand 82
    26/02/2018 Hong Kong China 58 China 111
    28/06/2018 China 74 South Korea 82
    01/07/2018 New Zealand 67 China 57

    Second Round

    13/09/2018 Lebanon 92 China 88
    17/09/2018 China 88 Jordan 79
    29/11/2018 China 101 Syria 52
    02/12/2018 China 72 Lebanon 52
    22/02/2019 Jordan 86 China 62
    25/02/2019 Syria 59 China 90
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    Window 1

    5 Fang Shuo 188-PG-90 Beijing Ducks
    8 Ding Yanyuhang 200-SG-93 Shandong Golden Star
    11 Liu Zhixuan 194-SG-91 Liaoning Flying Leopard
    16 Dong Hanlin 207-PF-91 Shanghai Sharks
    17 Sun Minghui 185-PG-96 Zhejiang Lions
    20 Xiralijan Muhtar 186-PG-91 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    22 Shi Yi 182-PG-96 Tianjin Gold Lion
    23 Abdulsalam Abdulrashid 202-SF-96 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    27 Yu Changdong 207-C-91 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    28 Shen Zijie 207-PF-97 Shenzhen Leopard
    30 Wang Zirui 188-PG-93 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    31 Wang Zhelin 214-C-94 Fujian Sturgeons
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    I'm predicting a bad L against South Korea, probably 20+ turnovers. The team has some perimeter talent, but inexperienced, and lack of preparation won't help. The point guards are Sun Minghui (averages 2.9 ppg in CBA) and Shi Yi (also 2.9 ppg in CBA). I like how they played vs. HK, but it's foolish to believe some of those passes will work against Korea.

    Too many butterfingers in the paint. After this window, this team has got to get better big men. Dong Hanlin and Shen Zijie are pretty much the same player, only good enough for <5 min off the bench.

    My guess is only 2-3 players here will make the NT in 2019: Ding Yanyuhang, Wang Zhelin (and maybe Abdushalam). The rest are either too old, too one-dimensional or too sloppy. Half of them can barely get off the bench in CBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    I'm predicting a bad L against South Korea, probably 20+ turnovers. The team has some perimeter talent, but inexperienced, and lack of preparation won't help. The point guards are Sun Minghui (averages 2.9 ppg in CBA) and Shi Yi (also 2.9 ppg in CBA). I like how they played vs. HK, but it's foolish to believe some of those passes will work against Korea.

    Too many butterfingers in the paint. After this window, this team has got to get better big men. Dong Hanlin and Shen Zijie are pretty much the same player, only good enough for <5 min off the bench.

    My guess is only 2-3 players here will make the NT in 2019: Ding Yanyuhang, Wang Zhelin (and maybe Abdushalam). The rest are either too old, too one-dimensional or too sloppy. Half of them can barely get off the bench in CBA.
    I nnever see abdushalam play even in Xinjiang..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    I nnever see abdushalam play even in Xinjiang..
    Xinjiang has a deep bench, and at least last year the guy did nothing but pass towels and water cups. But he's young, tall, mobile, athletic, active, has a good feel and stroke, and more importantly a lot of confidence despite his age. I'm a firm believer that the ideal Chinese SF needs to be over 200cm, so I'm a little biased toward him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    I'm predicting a bad L against South Korea, probably 20+ turnovers.
    My guess is only 2-3 players here will make the NT in 2019: Ding Yanyuhang, Wang Zhelin (and maybe Abdushalam).
    Happily eating my words now. While it's true half the team are CBA benchwarmers, Ding Yanyuhang + Wang Zhelin + Abdushalam + Sun Minghui were enough (the last 2 are still CBA benchwarmers but appear good enough for the "A" team if there is one).

    I can't say enough about Sun Minghui, definitely in the 2019 NT discussion after this game, despite his troubles against the full-court press late in the game. By the way Korea was too arrogant to not FCP until very late, frankly China was better than them at every aspect--including the 3--with the exception of sloppiness with the ball, and Korea did not take advantage of that at all.
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    For the next window, I'm fine with keeping most of the team like Fang Shuo, Liu Zhixuan, Xirelijan etc even though their chances of playing in 2019 are slim. (Wang Zirui is not good enough for FIBA. Shi Yi? Maybe, not too sure.) But this team has to get better big men. Wang Zhelin played 30 minutes, and though he played reasonably well, he has butterfingers and cannot really defend. Shen Zijie didn't play, and Yu Changdong and Dong Hanlin didn't do anything in limited minutes. With Zhou Qi in the NBA, the Red Team pool still has better options like Zou Yuchen, Fan Ziming, Xu Zhonghao, and even Zhang Zhaoxu is probably more useful than Dong Hanlin.

    If I were to assemble China's "A" team today, eyeing 2019 (therefore no Yi Jianlian):

    Guards: Guo Ailun*, Zhao Jiwei, Zhao Rui, Sun Minghui^
    Forwards: Ding Yanyuhang^, Abdushalam^, Zhai Xiaochuan, Zhou Peng*
    Bigs: Zhou Qi, Zou Yuchen, Wang Zhelin^, Hu Jinqiu*

    * = played in Asia Cup, ^ = played in Qualifiers:

    I think this roster will be at least 70% accurate in 2019 too, though it won't surprise me if someone like Xing Zhiqiang or Fu Hao makes the roster over Zhou Peng or Zhai Xiaochuan. Defending the post is going to be a huge problem against European teams, but the perimeter players are probably tolerable, and I think much better than the previous generation of Liu Wei/Wang Shipeng/Zhu Fangyu. I can only hope the Rockets develop Zhou Qi the right way fast, blocking scrubs in garbage time is entertainment, not real basketball like boxing out, posting up, and finishing strong is.
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    2nd window roster announced:

    * = played in Asia Cup
    G - Wu Qian*, Yu Dehao*, Guo Ailun*, Luo Xudong, Xu Mengjun
    F - Zhou Peng*, Li Gen*, Ren Junfei*, Gu Quan*, Keranbek Maken, Zhu Yanxi
    C - Han Dejun*, Hu Jinqiu*, Yi Jianlian, Fan Ziming, Tao Hanlin

    Pretty much the underperforming Asia Cup team, but probably even weaker in the backcourt. However, some players appear to have improved alot in the CBA namely Wu Qian and Hu Jinqiu. If Yi plays, the team should be solid for these 2 games, but not enough for the top Asian level.

    Xu Mengjun is a CBA rookie (born 1998) and averaging over an impressive 9ppg, but his only strength seems to be 3pt shooting (41%).
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    So the Asia Cup team would be playing in the Fiba qualifiers now, I see Zhou Qi and rest play in Asian Games..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Window 2

    6 Guo Ailun 188-PG-93 Liaoning Flying Leopard
    7 Luo Xudong 187-PG-88 Guangzhou Long Lions
    8 Yu Dehao 190-PG-95 Shenzhen Leopard
    9 Gu Quan 200-SF-92 Shenzhen Leopard
    10 Zhou Peng 206-SF-89 Guangdong Southern Tigers
    11 Yi Jianlian 213-PF-87 Guangdong Southern Tigers
    12 Li Gen 196-SF-88 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    19 Zhu Yanxi 208-C-90 Beijing Ducks
    20 Ren Junfei 203-PF-90 Guangdong Southern Tigers
    21 Hu Jinqiu 210-PF-97 Zhejiang Lions
    33 Wu Qian 191-PG-94 Zhejiang Golden Bulls
    55 Han Dejun 215-C-97 Liaoning Flying Leopard

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    OK!
    I love CHINA basketball NT~very very love my country team~BEST in ASIA~~

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    Window 3

    0 Zhao Rui 194-PG-96 Guangdong Southern Tigers
    4 Zhao Jiwei 185-PG-95 Liaoning Flying Leopard
    5 Fang Shuo 188-PG-90 Beijing Ducks
    6 Zhao Tailong 192-SG-90 Fujian Sturgeons
    7 Yu Changdong 207-C-91 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    11 Liu Zhixuan 194-SG-91 Liaoning Flying Leopard
    12 Lei Meng 195-SF-95 Bayi Deers
    13 Fu Hao 207-C-97 Bayi Deers
    16 Dong Hanlin 207-PF-91 Shanghai Sharks
    17 Sun Minghui 185-PG-96 Zhejiang Lions
    31 Wang Zhelin 214-C-94 Fujian Sturgeons
    50 Abdulsalam Abdulrashid 202-SF-96 Xinjiang Flying Tigers
    Last edited by Kings; 06-28-2018 at 09:14 AM.

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    2017 Asian Cup - Blue Team
    1st window - Red Team
    2nd window - Blue Team
    3rd window - Red Team

    Proposed schedule:

    Asian Games (August/September) - Red Team
    4th window (September) - Blue team
    5th window (November/December) - A Team
    6th window (February) - A Team

    I think Red Team is better than the Blue Team.
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    Hello sinobball !
    Do you have any information about the team that we will face in september ?
    I've heard that Yi Jianlin and Guo Ailun will be there !
    Can you confirm it ?
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    Hello sinobball !
    Do you have any information about the team that we will face in september ?
    I've heard that Yi Jianlin and Guo Ailun will be there !
    Can you confirm it ?
    Thank you
    According to the latest news, Guo Ailun will be there, but he hasn't been with the team all summer. Probably no Yi Jianlian.

    Team Blue is not as talented as the Red Team, especially on offense, due to lack of quality guards. The team does have decent rebounders and a very tall frontcourt, and should be capable of winning both games this window.

    Guo Ailun workouts this summer:
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    Ok thanks for the reply.
    Concerning Lebanon we're in a big trouble.
    Arakji, Abdelnour are injured (two starting players) plus our second PG Ali Mezher.
    We've change the coach because he has no time for the NT.
    Slobodan Subotic is now our new head coach.

    Yesterday we won against Morocco 84-81.
    Today we won against Tunisia (with Saleh El Majri) 58-49
    So Im very surprised with our results so far (even if it's just a friendly game).
    Majok is our Naturalized player for this window.
    Ahmad Ibrahim is back to the NT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    Today we won against Tunisia (with Saleh El Majri) 58-49
    Chinese Blue Team lost to Tunisia 61-68 at home on August 17 during the Stankovic Cup.

    Majok = Ater Majok?
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    Yes he already was our Naturalized player in window 1 and 2.

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    I think we will win, if China dont play Zhou QI.

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    whats chinese team vs us?

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