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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Cska is much worse. Real has replaced Ayon with Mickey, they seem about the same to me.
    Laprovittola > Pantzar and Prepelic

    About Mickey, he is better than Ayón in defense, and has more weapons to score (better shot). Ayón has more IQ and better ball movement.

    Let's see if Llull plays better than last year, but the keys are Campazzo and Tavares. If they work, Real Madrid will be very very tough. But well, people always says how old are our players and we are at the FF at the end of the year. Some year they will be correct.

    About Koufos, I heard he will earn 3M, that's true? Tavares will earn 2M after he resigned.

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    melli was predictable on the offensive end so he was limiting fener's offense imho. but on the defensive end, he did a great job for fener. he was (and is) better defensive player than williams for sure, no doubt. when you think about transfer market this season williams is a fine add. they are different type of players so we will see how it will turn out.

    comparing to erick green and tyler ennis, as long as he stays healthy westermann is a fine add too.

    also, we shouldn't forget lauvergne. he was injured half of the season last year. i think we have a better roster comparing to last year's roster.


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    I think people (including fellow Fener fans) forget that Fener last year was dominating regular season until injuries really started to become intolerable. Of course regular season doesn't mean much and we could still get destroyed in F4, but we could be much stronger if we had like 2 injuries instead of 5. Thus I believe we'll aim for reaching peak form later this season and really distribute the minutes.

    On paper Barça seems to have improved the most, and Madrid looks about the same. CSKA obviously has lost some firepower, but we have to see remaining signings.
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Chacho View Post
    Laprovittola > Pantzar and Prepelic
    About Koufos, I heard he will earn 3M, that's true? Tavares will earn 2M after he resigned.
    Koufos was 10 years in NBA. That's something.

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    Josh Adams to Malaga.

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    Eriksson zu Alba, 4 seasons
    2019/2020:
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    Kostas Koufos Welcome To CSKA Moscow ● Best Plays & Highlights
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obina View Post
    Koufos was 10 years in NBA. That's something.
    Same as Bargnani
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    Quote Originally Posted by radallo View Post
    Same as Bargnani
    Bargnani is different he came after a big injury then after he injured again in Baskonia. If he was healthy he could be MVP in EL easily.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=V9dX6IhU2tM

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    Quote Originally Posted by punch2k View Post
    Bargnani is different he came after a big injury then after he injured again in Baskonia. If he was healthy he could be MVP in EL easily.
    Bargnani was a terrible defender even when he was healthy and shooting almost solely mid range 2s stopped working for basically everyone except one or two players.

    Koufos is obviously very strong, he'll definitely be a good rebounder (something like 8 in 20 minutes), he'll defend well at the post against big centers that gave cska trouble last season.
    He rolls ok enough (cska needs guards to attempt to use that) but generally has a poor touch near the basket and he'll be a pretty big liability defending the pick and roll.

    You pay a premium to get him to come over and he won't be leading your offence, far from it, but he does fix a problem they had and they have money to spare.
    Of course, unless they sign one or even two great guards, they're more likely to miss the F4 than make it in my opinion. But that's not on Koufos, that's on them not replacing Sergio, DeColo and Higgins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Bargnani was a terrible defender even when he was healthy and shooting almost solely mid range 2s stopped working for basically everyone except one or two players.

    Koufos is obviously very strong, he'll definitely be a good rebounder (something like 8 in 20 minutes), he'll defend well at the post against big centers that gave cska trouble last season.
    He rolls ok enough (cska needs guards to attempt to use that) but generally has a poor touch near the basket and he'll be a pretty big liability defending the pick and roll.

    You pay a premium to get him to come over and he won't be leading your offence, far from it, but he does fix a problem they had and they have money to spare.
    Of course, unless they sign one or even two great guards, they're more likely to miss the F4 than make it in my opinion. But that's not on Koufos, that's on them not replacing Sergio, DeColo and Higgins.
    Bargnani was bad defender, had injuries throughout his career and didn't work too much, still in Eurobasket 2015 he dominated offensively, if he was healthy he couldn't be stopped by anyone in EL, his offensive talent was just elite but with so many injuries Baskonia was aware that the chances for him to have a full season were very slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_black_planet View Post
    Bargnani was bad defender, had injuries throughout his career and didn't work too much, still in Eurobasket 2015 he dominated offensively, if he was healthy he couldn't be stopped by anyone in EL, his offensive talent was just elite but with so many injuries Baskonia was aware that the chances for him to have a full season were very slim.
    What was he dominating offensively? XD

    Scoring was just a job of Gallinari and Bellinelli. They scored half of the points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toruko View Post
    What was he dominating offensively? XD

    Scoring was just a job of Gallinari and Bellinelli. They scored half of the points.
    Bargnani 15ppg Gallinari 18ppg Bellineli 16ppg Gentile 17ppg so their numbers so close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pabarabanu View Post
    Fener last year was better than Real? Or you think that Westermann or Williams are good adds?
    Fener was the same level with Real last year. They finished regular season as leader and they struggled at F4 due to injuries.

    Westermann is not the best transfer we have seen him closely. Probably his role will be limited. Williams is very good player in my opinion top5 transfer. He can create his own shot and extremely athletic. He had very good rookie season in Europe and improvement is very likely. He will increase talent wise of Fener, they lack off that in recent years.

    But I don't agree the opinion that Real not top team. They definitely top 4 team right now.

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    Eriksson to Alba for 4 years officially announced. Alba pays a buyout of around 200.000. I thinks its the first time Alba pays a buyout for a player. Ojeda (GM of Alba) always wanted him, now he finally got him. One of the best shooters in EL, im excited to see him in Berlin.

    Next player is Cavanaugh. A very good 3 pt shooting big man. I guess Alba is searching its luck from the 3 pt line in the EL, lots of good shooters (Siva, Hermannson, Mason, Giedraitis, Eriksson, Schneider, Cavanaugh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saras_Fan View Post
    Fener was the same level with Real last year. They finished regular season as leader and they struggled at F4 due to injuries.
    I think Fener failed the load management last year, which is strange because Obradovic used to be known with his mastery over this. there would be a low point in Feb/March and then it would pick up. One may even imagine a link from here to the injuries, which were crucial, but Fener was at the peak form when it did not matter. Recent EL history tells us timing is everything. Real and Fener won the title with that wave (5th in reg season), and Efes got to the final.
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    ZOC let Datome play against Dacka in the second last game of the regular season of BSL and he got injured. Such stupidity. Even if you end up second who cares XD. What for do you have guys like Arna? Let him play and if you lose so be it.

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    Giannakopoulos followed Wesley Johnson at instagram,same like fredette case. He might be the last add in the team as another g/f. Panathinaikos is looking at the nba market for it,but we have heard rumours about others as well (last one was person bufford). But whoever comes will most probably be athletic 3 n D player there
    Sasa Pukl for MVP

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    Quote Originally Posted by saras View Post
    Giannakopoulos followed Wesley Johnson at instagram,same like fredette case. He might be the last add in the team as another g/f. Panathinaikos is looking at the nba market for it,but we have heard rumours about others as well (last one was person bufford). But whoever comes will most probably be athletic 3 n D player there
    the offer for wesley johnson is 1m for 1 year of contact. his nba contract (taxes included) is just above 6 million. i still think its impossible we sign him,but who knows
    Sasa Pukl for MVP

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    Vatutin revealed that CSKA still looking for one guard. No names were given, but as we know Delaney is among the candidates. Most likely it will be someone from NBA as Vatutin complained that in Europe there are basically no option left


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