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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    Can you please share the article even if it is in Lithuanian?
    https://www.15min.lt/24sek/naujiena/...e-1134-1046186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    You think only point guards can create shots? Did you see Shengelia last night? That's what a talented big man looks like.
    Comparing shot-creating ability of a 6'9 forward and a heavy 7'0 center is pretty much useless.

    Using a lack of shot-creating ability as a knock on a center who provides you everything that you can ask for from a center these days - rebounding, switching, screening, rolling, rim protection, is really the least worry of any coach. Milutinov hasn't even been given a chance to show if low post game could be his strength due to heavy ISO-ball game of Oly's guards in recent years. More than that, it's unclear what's stopping him from being an effective post player because he displayed a sweet hook shot, touch around the rim and a decent footwork. He needs a coach who will get him a few post touches per game consistently, especially in mismatch situations. There is one great beneficial aspect if he gets to play in the low post – passing. He will deal with double teams easily given his advanced passing, and that aspect of his game is still waiting to be utilized properly. I feel like there is a lot of room for improvement or skills waiting to be explored when it comes to his offense. Blatt is already beginning to realize that.

    What I liked the most from last night's game were dribble hand-off sets by Milutinov in the last five minutes that caused havoc in Baskonia's defense. Nuggets use this motion offense a lot with Jokić, and I think Blatt could do the same with Milutinov to some extent. That would really open up Oly's offense, causing all players to move and creating easy shots or drives to the rim. For that to happen, Spanoulis (and other guards) would have to stop dribbling the air out of the ball for fifteen seconds per possession and move the ball.

    Interesting to note, Milutinov didn't have one single block last night, but it felt like he had half a dozen, because he altered so many shots at the rim and his ability to switch onto smaller guys and stay within them can not be understated. His defense and rim protection at this level are game changing.

    I think you should take a better look at Milutinov and rethink what 'shot creation' really means for a center. It doesn't apply in the same way for perimeter players and big guys. Those centers with ability to create shots for themselves are stars in the NBA. And there are only a few of such players. Natural characteristic of most perimeter oriented players is to create shots for themselves or their teammates, while for centers it is screening, rolling to the rim and post play (when we talk about offense). And the last aspect depends a lot of guards' ability to make a well timed entry pass to the post. And it's worth noting that post play is becoming rarely utilized these days, coaches are moving away from traditional low post game because it doesn't fit with modern motion basketball where everything is subjected to shooting and p&r. And that's why coaches are more than happy to have a big man who can roll to the rim, rebound, protect the rim and set good screens. At this level, Milutinov already has all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paspalj View Post
    Actually it’s not unbelievable. They are heavy candidates for the F4.
    *whispers* I think it was sarcasm
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
    Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
    Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
    Şampiyonluk gelince

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    *whispers* I think it was sarcasm
    Ah, shit.

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    This feature about Dixon was on the official EL site. Bolded part is amazing.

    He may be one of the smallest players in the Turkish Airlines EuroLeague, but on the short list of the most impactful shooters ever, he stands very, very tall. Ali Muhammed of Fenerbahce Istanbul proved why once again on Wednesday, when he peppered the basket for 4 three-pointers in less than 8 minutes to assure Fenerbahce a 93-85 victory over a Khimki Moscow Region team that had its own shooting star in Alexey Shved.

    Khimki stayed in the game thanks to its long-distance accuracy, making 8 of its first 10 threes and 10 of 14 in the game's first 15 minutes. The visitors finished with 15 strikes from downtown, 7 of them by Shved, but the most efficient and lethal ones came off the hot hand of Muhammed.

    He entered the game for the first time with 2:40 left in the third quarter. It was 66-66 early in the fourth when he assisted Luigi Datome for a tie-breaking basket and then rattled off 3 threes in 73 seconds, blowing up the game as Fenerbahce went ahead 77-70- He hit his fourth for good measure later.


    Interestingly, if you look at the history of great shooters in the EuroLeague, just three have made 7 or more in a game on three different occasions, and the same number have 6 or more on at least five different occasions. In both those trios are Shved and Ali.

    The difference on Thursday was that Ali needed barely 12 minutes and 5 tries from downtown to do all his damage and keep Fenerbahce perfect after two games.
    Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
    Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
    Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
    Şampiyonluk gelince

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    Quote Originally Posted by childress67 View Post
    Fener Cska Real Madrid and olympiacos the only teams undefeated..can you believe it?
    Fener yet to face a formidable opponent to apparaise

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    the questio is: why in recent mta history all shooters have lower percent compared with percents they had in their past and future after yellowtime?
    easy answer to this key question:mta doesnt play for them
    anyway this evening could be a great evening for us. loosing tonight it would mean restart the seaso without spahija and consequencially without kane. surely improvements changement

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivo View Post
    After the death of his sister too... F*** Wilbekin, gimme Bobby until he retires. He's amazing.
    As I said earlier; Ali > Vilbekin. Though I see why they chose Vilbekin for the national team, only because of his young age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziya K View Post
    efes lost because zalgiris team has a coach and efes don't
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by papalouki-louk View Post
    that complete idiot Sfairopoulos has ruined the best years of Spanoulis and Printezis
    Thank god we got a normal coach at last and we enjoy basketball again.
    ''Normal'' ? Blatt is one of the best, and certainly at the top 5 amongst the active coaches in the Euroleague.

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    In last four years Fener had 3 constant tight game breakers Bogdan, Dixon and Datome. All other players(currently in the roster-not those that left) are very important and sometims they are the main factor in the game like Sloukas and Vesely, but in hard moments we all know who will take shoots and change the course of the game.
    Last edited by janketa; 10-20-2018 at 11:59 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cemalex View Post
    There is not many players same quality as Nunnaly. He is one of the best 3 pt shooters of all euroleague history.

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