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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    i wonder why rj abbarientos is not considered by this team?
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    There are so many very good pinoy guards who are just too small for fiba games. The history of failure of our small guards against very good bigger guards like those of south korea is dismal. Now, we have nba big guards like those of australia, spain and serbia, among others to worry about because kai and aj may just drag pinoy nts kicking and screaming into top modern baller warfare.

    For those who like extra small guards like nonoy and rj abarrientos, the mental exercise of estimating their final performance, particularly on defense and 3point shooting which drastically goes down against elite guards, must not be avoided. Always the gentle excuses that they underperform are due to bad luck or unforseen bad matchups are readily available. Indeed, no one will even have to see padrigao types fu*k up in fiba simply by testing him publicly first against elite sanmig guards, or at the very least norwood, kobe paras or dave ildefonso.

    Yes, they are very good dribblers. But the school janitor or canteen food server, or your local dilatory congressman, can dribble away time too. Ididribol lang pala.

    Lets hope that the sbp PUBLICLY tests the extra small guards against tall elite pba guards first, who will certainly not allow them to embarrass the pros!!! Indeed, the opponents' "heartcrusher" or dagger TWO prime missions of guards tend to be ignored in pinoy NT teams. Specifically, the RELIABLE abilities to volume-shoot demoralizing outside shots (at least true 50% shooting against elite guards), and vicious superfast and soaring rim attacks like those of harden's and jordan's that break will to compete.

    Remember that even the best, experienced pba guards at least can reasonably compete with nba guards. The sbp and pinoy coaches are only too willing to give seats to small players due to perceived public desires. By letting the public see on tv that these young extra small players will almost always underperform, the logic of sending much bigger guards will never be challenged again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccharmed View Post
    There are so many very good pinoy guards who are just too small for fiba games. The history of failure of our small guards against very good bigger guards like those of south korea is dismal. Now, we have nba big guards like those of australia, spain and serbia, among others to worry about because kai and aj may just drag pinoy nts kicking and screaming into top modern baller warfare.

    For those who like extra small guards like nonoy and rj abarrientos, the mental exercise of estimating their final performance, particularly on defense and 3point shooting which drastically goes down against elite guards, must not be avoided. Always the gentle excuses that they underperform are due to bad luck or unforseen bad matchups are readily available. Indeed, no one will even have to see padrigao types fu*k up in fiba simply by testing him publicly first against elite sanmig guards.

    Yes, they are very good dribblers. But the school janitor or canteen food server, or your local dilatory congressman, can dribble away time too. Ididribol lang pala.

    Lets hope that the sbp PUBLICLY tests the extra small guards against tall elite pba guards first, who will certainly not allow them to embarrass the pros!!! Indeed, the opponents' "heartcrusher" or dagger TWO prime missions of guards tend to be ignored in pinoy NT teams. Specifically, the RELIABLE abilities to volume-shoot demoralizing outside shots (at least true 50% shooting against elite guards), and vicious superfast and soaring rim attacks like those of harden's and jordan's that break will to compete.

    Remember that even the best, experienced pba guards at least can reasonably compete with nba guards. The sbp and pinoy coaches are only too willing to give seats to small players due to perceived public desires. By letting the public see on tv that these young extra small players will alwaus underperform, the logic of sending much bigger guards will never be challenged again.
    This reminds me when alot of people complain why 6’2 sf abueva wasn’t in gilas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenoloxy View Post
    This reminds me when alot of people complain why 6’2 sf abueva wasn’t in gilas.
    The sbp must publicly test forwards against kawhi leonard types, which are common in top 20 fiba nations. Testing him against another 6'2 or smaller forward makes no sense. Testing on tv abueva against nba fowards or at least us ncaa division1 forwards on vacation, with instructions to give undersized pinoy forwards hell in 2x2 and 3x3 tests, makes sense. The bigger the winning margin, the bigger the foreigners' vacation bonus.

    Kai, edu and say tamayo must also publicly go up in 3x3 against fajardo, slaughter, standardinger and aguilar. No exemptions. The claimed best youths must be tested against tougher pba players. The best pba contributions are not just about sending pros, but also testing the readiness of future nt players.

    You must design and form an NT that can win it all, and not just participate in smiling during the opening ceremonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    overage. born october 99
    Hes gonna graduate HS turning 21?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    Hes gonna graduate HS turning 21?
    fir aguy as good as he is.. he cant earn a spot in feu varsity...
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    fir aguy as good as he is.. he cant earn a spot in feu varsity...
    i agree. he should go UP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    Hes gonna graduate HS turning 21?
    really? 21?HS? wtf. i graduated college already at that age.
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    born 2000.. he cant play yet for the seniors he’s still in high school. hindi pa graduate.. its impossible FEU will not list him this season specially parker and inigo graduated already.hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by tootch View Post
    born 2000.. he cant play yet for the seniors he’s still in high school. hindi pa graduate.. its impossible FEU will not list him this season specially parker and inigo graduated already.hehehe
    he was born october 99. afaik eligibility issues for Abarrientos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    he was born october 99. afaik eligibility issues for Abarrientos
    Is feu so short of short guards in jalen pekpek shorts and weird hair? This guy, who is still in high school at 20 must love his k12 teachers very much. I graduated from college at 19 because i wanted to work asap and help my parents.

    Kai obviously intends to work early too to help his family. It is pointless for him to go to college as his earnings as a baller will be much higher than the usual pinoy college graduate. He could be a pro at 19, and get a college degree through distance education. Im sure his family will deeply appreciate a new small business, new house for oversized people, and a big suv with headroom for a sevenfooter. Kai cant drive around in a hyundai eon.

    In any case, i see a deep fascination for extra small guards in this forum. Sbp should really sponsor public 3x3 matches in malls against internationally sized guard trios like norwood, paras and dave ilfefonso. Say for 100k prize money from chooks to go. Then, everyone can see how good our small guards are in real-world, fiba conditions.
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    i think his birthday( abarrientos) is on fiba site to see..But ot, I hate tge fact how china plays 3x3 basketball the right way.. in a 3 x3 setting passing is really a thing of beauty
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
    Junemar if played on the 90s mightve been a borderline NBA player, he is a throwback bigman of the previous basketball era.
    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    really? 21?HS? wtf. i graduated college already at that age.
    He's 19 so he's turning 20. Partly to blame is the K12 program which in my opinion only makes the school owners richer and life harder for the poor. Anyway, that's beside the point. Both Rj and JGDL would've been great help for our U19 team specially since panopio is still recovering from the injury

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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram04 View Post
    He's 19 so he's turning 20. Partly to blame is the K12 program which in my opinion only makes the school owners richer and life harder for the poor. Anyway, that's beside the point. Both Rj and JGDL would've been great help for our U19 team specially since panopio is still recovering from the injury
    no he is already in hs since justine baltazar and nu pre monteverde era... He just overstayed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram04 View Post
    He's 19 so he's turning 20. Partly to blame is the K12 program which in my opinion only makes the school owners richer and life harder for the poor. Anyway, that's beside the point. Both Rj and JGDL would've been great help for our U19 team specially since panopio is still recovering from the injury
    oh yeah o forgot that k12 curriculum. then its all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram04 View Post
    He's 19 so he's turning 20. Partly to blame is the K12 program which in my opinion only makes the school owners richer and life harder for the poor. Anyway, that's beside the point. Both Rj and JGDL would've been great help for our U19 team specially since panopio is still recovering from the injury
    Even before the K-12 program, varsity players graduating from high school at 18 or 19 was already common.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    Quote Originally Posted by astigram04 View Post
    He's 19 so he's turning 20. Partly to blame is the K12 program which in my opinion only makes the school owners richer and life harder for the poor. Anyway, that's beside the point. Both Rj and JGDL would've been great help for our U19 team specially since panopio is still recovering from the injury
    K-12 was a requirement for ASEAN integration. Also why schools are beginning to shift the academic calendar to match the international one.

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    I thought the pool will be released last weekend? May mga ihahabol pa?
    LABAN PILIPINAS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by watiwawa View Post
    I thought the pool will be released last weekend? May mga ihahabol pa?
    once the school gives an official word on the release of the players then it will be made public.
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    to me the U19 team ( at least core 9 players ) is pretty much set , mostly from players of the U18 team last year and maybe Nonoy ( BTW where was he last year?)

    the only question is if a fil foreign wing / defender can reasonably added and contribute.. the question of Artest in particular.. I do see him filling up a reasonable need ( wing defender)

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