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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRodster21 View Post
    That sucks then his gym shouldn’t be lying like that.
    Phenom is not acgually just a gym, its sort of a Sports Management team... Imagine the media mileage it gets in having one of its player chosen to play to the World Cup. Thus the PR stunt. However, Nonoys and Usts schedule of playing in 3summer leagues(MilcU, Breakdown Basketball, Headstart) plus PBA D League.. Wala pa yung classes nia yan, how could you expect the kid to practice to Batang Gilas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    Phenom is not acgually just a gym, its sort of a Sports Management team... Imagine the media mileage it gets in having one of its player chosen to play to the World Cup. Thus the PR stunt. However, Nonoys and Usts schedule of playing in 3summer leagues(MilcU, Breakdown Basketball, Headstart) plus PBA D League.. Wala pa yung classes nia yan, how could you expect the kid to practice to Batang Gilas...
    It is always sad to see such institutions teach these kids, whether directly or otherwise, this concept of managing priorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    Phenom is not acgually just a gym, its sort of a Sports Management team... Imagine the ...
    Rather have a kid go here,, pretty impressive https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcaq8D8eg9I

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    Can everyone move on now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    This is getting silly, if Nonoy didn't show up for practice when invited rarely or not at all for a month. How can any coach selector place him in the pool to invest in as prospects to travel or even train.
    You do realize at this point the boys need to secure Visas, who would be so stupid to just include Nonoy in the application for Visas when he hasn't even communicated he is keen to practice with the team
    Secondly coaches who are to start preparing with 3 weeks barely to go need commitment that whoever they select will show up in practice or else they can't run a full 5x 5 practice with subs. Eh how can they be confident of Nonoy showing up, eh hindi na nag attend ng regular tryout practice when invited
    Agree!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Rather have a kid go here,, pretty impressive https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcaq8D8eg9I
    Lol no contest naman yan. Stellazzura produced an NBA number 1 pick in Bargnani in a time when stretch centers are not yet common. Just shows how much ahead Stellazzura is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    there is no cost to a selected few ( those trully promissing) , the economics of it are quite simple. there are infuenctial business people who would rather focus on sponsoring a few promising players ( not more than 8 ) rather than a whole team... additionally there are elite coaches ( exposed overseas) who are already paid by teams ( pro or college) that will contribute and just be paid extra..

    The business model is feasible.. ( we've got gym already, and accomodations ) , the impact will really be significant. It's about giving the trully best talents ( kai level) the needed training.
    Nice to hear that. Reminds me of Delta model in Pampanga, only this is obviously going to be better considering the personalities involved. If we are to scale up the success of Delta in identifying talent and molding them into PBA caliber players, then it is not far fetched we might actually produce NBA level players in the near future.
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    Dalph should stay in Europe. Better everything there

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    On Nonoy non inclusion, it's similar to Abueva ommitance all over again. If this was simply about whose better or more deserving then hands down Nonoy should be selected, but it's not
    In the big scheme of things Nonoy not being there has very little impact if any on how far we go. Why? Simply because the top 3 or 4 players on this team who we will heavily rely on like never before in youth competition are already intact, the 5th best player granted its Nonoy who still needs to be integrated, doesn't change our chances.
    As we've seen in the senior Gilas team is what matters most is if you have the top player, Blatche, whether you have Marcio instead of Wright, even if he is better does very little in improving our chances
    The thinking is very NBA ish star rating focus, where the debate between top 6 players is very little in Margin.
    It simply isn't the case with Kai, AJ and for Gilas Blatche or Clarkson, whoever they play alongside as support players whether Wright or Marcio has very little to do in changing outcome
    Analyzed, you told before in this post that Nonoy's non inclusion was like Abueva's ommitance to the Gilas before. Yet out of the blue, you are spilling stories na ininvite si Nonoy but he was not committed on attending. If that was the case and you really had an inside info, then why pinaligoy ligoy pa on comparing it similarly to Abueva? If you had just tell that before then that's it, end of discussion, we would understand kasi ininvite naman pala, we won't be arguing Nonoy's non-inclusion kasi it was him na ayaw pala. Now we are hearing that it's Nonoy that is like the bad guy since he is not attending the practices but before you are comparing it to a Calvin Abueva situation, may patop4 top4 players ka pang to be heavily relied on. Ano ba talaga? Do you really have an inside info? Or are you just making this up? Nagkagulo gulo pa tuloy sa thread, ang daming feelings ang nahurt and was deeply affected saying "you have to move on, you won't do anything, it's the coaches decision, it's the chemistry, it's the familiarity, if you think that then nonoy should be a top 3 draft pick, you are just Nonoy's burner account, stop saying the word/name Nonoy were scared". Lols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    You actually have to ask him first if he can join practice, if he doesn't show up, then you got your answer and wala ng Ibang usapan, wala ng isali sa lineup for Greece etc usapan, kalokohan yan, sumagot na eh
    What now? Super layo on what you told us before. Smh

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    To put it simply, is Nonoy the bad guy or just a busy one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    this don't happen or are communicated clearly black and white, UsT doesn't say do not attend practice,, all they have to do is schedule practice say 30 min before Gilas practice and run it for 3 hours, with the transport time taking 2 hours to get from UST to Meralco ( Gilas practice) , they don't even have to say a word to Nonoy on what to do,,, basta may scedule practice sila to prepare for a game at the end of the week.. Eh if you're Nonoy being funded by UST , what is any kid or family of that age to do?

    You can't go back to Batang Gilas and say gago kayo , why did you schedule practice at that time. wala ba kayong consideration. eh they really woud'nt care less , they have to cater to all the kids in trying out from all schools
    Lols. My Alma matter, USTe, was dragged pa. Come on now, hopefully you are speaking the truth since Lina was being lend. Before UST was obliging on lending Kevin Ferrer sa youth teams, and now my Alma Mater is the problem? Hopefully we would be enlighten with the truth/real situation, not on pointing out something just to look having an inside info, ang labas parang bigla ka lang nagimagine so now I have to spill them what I imagined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    I'll put it plain and simple, Dalph will play heavy minutes and relied upon significantly.
    The next guards (combo guards) the coaching staff are most confident to contribute for this tournament 3 weeks from now are returning Oczon (who played well in 2018) and Spencer (who has shown he can fill a support back up role with a defensive focus). Please note it doesn't mean the 2 are better than Nonoy, they're just better fit within the context of the situation (totally understandable from a coaching perspective)
    Now the 3 are the main guard rotation the coaches want to focus during the 3 week prep time (they get the minutes in tune up game to fast track chemistry)
    The rest like Abadiano or Fortea are bench players or alternates in case of injury. The problem is Nonoy is too good a player or unfamiliar with a bench role to replace the 2 I mentioned. Again coaches pick players for a specific role and Nonoy ain't no bench player. Need guys who will accept that very limited cheerleader role
    Nonoy aint a bench player, need guys who will accept a limited cheerleader role. Nonoy's problem is he is just too good and unfamiliar with bench role. And then now, he simply was invited and did not attended practice cause he was being held by USTe? That's how low you think of that school in a national youth team situation? Come now, for real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    This is getting silly, if Nonoy didn't show up for practice when invited rarely or not at all for a month. How can any coach selector place him in the pool to invest in as prospects to travel or even train.
    You do realize at this point the boys need to secure Visas, who would be so stupid to just include Nonoy in the application for Visas when he hasn't even communicated he is keen to practice with the team
    Secondly coaches who are to start preparing with 3 weeks barely to go need commitment that whoever they select will show up in practice or else they can't run a full 5x 5 practice with subs. Eh how can they be confident of Nonoy showing up, eh hindi na nag attend ng regular tryout practice when invited
    And now you are reaching on this visa thing. Just stop doing this kind of thing parang paninira na yung ganito eh

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    How is it reaching? Bro this is exactly why we need to move on from this issue. I know you are offended but lets actually talk about the included players in the pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenoloxy View Post
    How is it reaching? Bro this is exactly why we need to move on from this issue. I know you are offended but lets actually talk about the included players in the pool.
    Man, if we are going to talk about the players then so be it. Lets stop BSing around to the abueva this, top 4 this, if Nonoy did not attend the practice ok fine, lets move on. And now bakit nadadamay ang USTe? Hopefully, if that's true then 100% true yan ah, Analyzed really have connections on how UST works? For me, let's just talk pure hoops on the matter, iwasan yung chismis kasi once you say something andiyan na yan, its your reputation that is being on the line. He is better than that. Remember LabingIsa, Kyle Neypes, and Kevin Ferrer before in the youth teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    Man, if we are going to talk about the players then so be it. Lets stop BSing around to the abueva this, top 4 this, if Nonoy did not attend the practice ok fine, lets move on. And now bakit nadadamay ang USTe? Hopefully, if that's true then 100% true yan ah, Analyzed really have connections on how UST works? For me, let's just talk pure hoops on the matter, iwasan yung chismis kasi once you say something andiyan na yan, its your reputation that is being on the line. He is better than that. Remember LabingIsa, Kyle Neypes, and Kevin Ferrer before in the youth teams?
    Not sure if true but Analyzed has alot of connections. We will probably never know but you are right, we should talk politics only if the situation calls for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Can everyone move on now?
    Hindi because we didnt get nonoys side of the story..I reacted when people blaming Nonoy to it and eventually guys from ust like dg react when ust was given a bad light..
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    That feeling when people still talking about Lebron and the lakers when its the warriors and raptors are in the Finals..
    You know how to WIN against the Philippines? Zone them do death and watch them crumble. Been working Since 2002 and coaches until today don't have the answer for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    Lols. My Alma matter, USTe, was dragged pa. Come on now, hopefully you are speaking the truth since Lina was being lend. Before UST was obliging on lending Kevin Ferrer sa youth teams, and now my Alma Mater is the problem? Hopefully we would be enlighten with the truth/real situation, not on pointing out something just to look having an inside info, ang labas parang bigla ka lang nagimagine so now I have to spill them what I imagined.
    difference between lina and nonoy? nonoy is part of seniors team of UST. lina? still in juniors. and the uaap juniors finished their season 3 months ago and most uaap teams are preparing for upcoming uaap season around august..

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