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  • 2008 Greek NT

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    Last edited by ArkadiosV2; 06-02-2010, 03:36 PM.

    Originally posted by parso
    Gomelsky doesn't know @@@@ about basketball
    Originally posted by sseppel
    it's not asking too much for someone to know where the fuck he is.
    Originally posted by UMUT_FB_LAL
    Scola makes me wanna touch myself, no homo

  • #2
    I'm expecting at least for the Tournament in Athens :
    Dimitris Tsaldaris (Aris) , maybe he's too old for NT.
    Giorgos Printezis (osfp)
    Kostas Vasileiadis (osfp)
    Vasilis Xanthopoulos (panionios), Kostas Koufos (Ohio) only for the experience.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0WksjIdObI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVAX0...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLc_A...eature=related

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ArkadiosV2
      Panayiotis Yannakis has been offered a new 4 years contract extension...
      Does it means that Greece will remain the team who doesn't shoot an open shots from 3p line?
      LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

      Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
      Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
      Buzelis, Lelevicius
      Murauskas, Sirvydis
      Tubelis, Krivas

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Straight forward
        Does it means that Greece will remain the team who doesn't shoot an open shots from 3p line?
        Yes greece will remain that team, but not because of giannakis.

        When instead of papaloukas, spanoulis and diamantidis we ll have saras, macas and siskaouskas we ll shoot from the 3 pt line.
        Until then we ll go with penetrations

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Straight forward
          Does it means that Greece will remain the team who doesn't shoot an open shots from 3p line?
          Bring Vasileiadis or Tsaldaris(or both) in the squad and give them time and u will c if we can shoot 3p too...
          Your time is up my time is now,
          you can't see me my time is now...

          "Basketball is like the church. Many attend it, but few understand it"

          If u smell what the G.L. is cookin'...

          The Demon of Greek loby is here!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T.W.Is.M.
            Bring Vasileiadis or Tsaldaris(or both) in the squad and give them time and u will c if we can shoot 3p too...
            One defensively weak player in the roster and the whole game system of the greek NT collapses.
            You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fasoulaki
              One defensively weak player in the roster and the whole game system of the greek NT collapses.
              I don't think any of them is weak defensively. Well, if we compare them 2 Diamantidis, they r weak but they r not bad defenders overall. Plus we all saw what happens if u don't have players who can put the ball in the net. Easy points r necessary 4 our team and the thing we miss is points from outside.
              Your time is up my time is now,
              you can't see me my time is now...

              "Basketball is like the church. Many attend it, but few understand it"

              If u smell what the G.L. is cookin'...

              The Demon of Greek loby is here!

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              • #8
                What to do with Papadopolus? He is playing very bad the whole season. Even against Bamberg he is not able to make a good game. He earns over 2mio and like he plays he is the most overpaid player in europe now.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Buducnost PG
                  What to do with Papadopolus? He is playing very bad the whole season. Even against Bamberg he is not able to make a good game. He earns over 2mio and like he plays he is the most overpaid player in europe now.
                  How about sending him hang with Sofo, get a few kg(~20 maybe?) and then send him instead of Sofo 2 a special treatment center in Switzerland?
                  We could get rid of him very effectively this way.
                  Your time is up my time is now,
                  you can't see me my time is now...

                  "Basketball is like the church. Many attend it, but few understand it"

                  If u smell what the G.L. is cookin'...

                  The Demon of Greek loby is here!

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                  • #10
                    Pridezis deserves a calling to the National Team. He's getting better and better...

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                    • #11
                      Printezis and Vasiliadis should definitively be on the roster of the national team. The question is if Giannakis will be able to change his game system in a way that allows integration of that kind of players.

                      Regarding Pelekanos I am not sure if he should remain on the roster. He has not improved his game much this year and he is already 26/27 years old.

                      What is for sure is that we have a problem with our centers. All of them Schortsianitis, Papadopoulos and Bouroussis are not in shape.

                      In addition it will be interesting to see if the older ones like Dikoudis, Kakiouzis and Papaloukas will really decide to play again this summer for the NT.
                      Last edited by fasoulaki; 01-04-2008, 08:23 AM.
                      You live with the Freak you die with the Freak!!!

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                      • #12
                        Yes many of our players are not in shape this year. But on the other hand, they were in good shape last year untill Eurobasket. Only Spanoulis was in good shape. Our only reliable shooters are Zisis and Fotsis. Zisis was out of shape and Fotsis was out.

                        Greece was too predictable in the tournament.

                        I've noticed that in games were Greece shoots well from outside, they are almost unstopable.

                        I don't care if they are not in shape at the moment. As long as they are in shape during the summer.
                        PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011

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                        • #13
                          We need a good "pure" shooter and Vasiliadis can offer answers there. Printezis has been by far the MIP and deserves a call up and maybe even, NT birth.

                          I'm 100% sure Koufos will be in the squad as we are looking rather weak under the rim. Tsartsaris, Dikoudis, Papadopoulos are abbysmal whilst Sofo is not even on the map.
                          Mi imamo svoga boga, on se zove Bodiroga.
                          Demetrious "Primo Gavrorum Malleus" Diamantidis

                          Thank you for all you have given me. 6*
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Bxh4eYMxw

                          Panathinaikos is not just a club. It's a religion.
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWbTZbfkI8

                          When the OAKA foundations moved a couple metres
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbFl2mO8E0

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                          • #14
                            I thought that it'd be interesting to have a look on how the NT players, potential NT players and former NT players/callups are doing this season, concerning their statistics. Of course statistics don't cover a lot of things, like defense, teamplay, a PGs ability to dictate the rhythm of a game, etc.. and one has to keep in mind that it's a different thing to put up good stats for a "small" club than for a "big" EL club, but still it's interesting imho.
                            I kept out Sofo, as he's not on the basketball map atm and I don't think that he'll be called, even if he's in better shape this summer, as he was out of action for a year.

                            2007 Eurobasket Players (without the retired Chatzivrettas):

                            Dimitris Diamantidis (PG, 1,96m, 1980) - Panathinaikos
                            EL Stats: 13 Games, 29.08mpg, 8.2ppg (52% 2P, 45% 3P, 75% FT), 5rpg, 3.4apg, 2spg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 23.36mpg, 7.4ppg (72% 2P, 45% 3P, 86% FT), 4.1rpg, 3.6apg, 1.9spg

                            Theo Papaloukas (PG, 2,00m, 1977) - CSKA Moscow
                            EL Stats: 12 Games, 19.01mpg, 6.4ppg (50.9% 2P, 21.4% 3P, 63.6% FT), 3.7apg, 2.3rpg, 1.1spg
                            Russian League Stats: 21 Games, 20.18mpg, 7.4ppg (56% 2P, 31% 3P, 67% FT), 4.8apg, 3.1rpg, 1spg

                            Vassilis Spanoulis (PG/SG, 1,93m, 1982) - Panathinaikos
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 26.28mpg, 10.9ppg (47.4% 2P, 38.5% 3P, 74.5% FT), 2.8rpg, 2.6apg, 1spg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 25.5mpg, 12ppg (60% 2P, 46% 3P, 83% FT), 5.5apg, 2.2rpg

                            Nikos Zisis (PG/SG, 1,95m, 1983) - CSKA Moscow
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 19.35mpg, 6.4ppg (58.7% 2P, 20% 3P, 84%), 2.3apg, 2.2rpg
                            Russian League Stats: 23 Games, 20.17mpg, 7.1ppg (58% 2P, 33% 3P, 92% FT), 2.6rpg, 2.5apg

                            Michalis Pelekanos (SG/SF, 1,98m, 1981) - Real Madrid
                            EL Stats: 12 Games, 12.28mpg, 3.3ppg (44% 2P, 20% 3P, 72.7% FT), 1.5rpg, 1.2spg
                            ACB Stats: 18 Games, 9mpg, 3ppg (45% 2P, 35% 3P, 65% FT), 1.4rpg

                            Panagiotis Vassilopoulos (SF/PF, 2,02m, 1984) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 9 Games, 17.02mpg, 4.2ppg (37.9% 2P, 17.6% 3P, 43.8% FT), 3rpg
                            A1 Stats: 9 Games, 23.89mpg, 11.9ppg (55% 2P, 43% 3P, 94% FT), 2.2rpg, 1.2spg, 1.1apg

                            Michalis Kakiouzis (SF/PF, 2,07m, 1976) - Cajasol
                            ACB Stats: 19 Games, 27mpg, 11.9ppg (59% 2P, 29% 3P, 68% FT), 4.8rpg, 1.3spg

                            Dimos Dikoudis (PF, 2,06m, 1977) - Panathinaikos
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 14.38mpg, 6.4ppg (67.4% 2P, 41.7% 3P, 50% FT), 2.9rpg
                            A1 Stats: 12 Games, 17.67mpg, 8.8ppg (78% 2P, 11% 3P, 64% FT), 3.5rpg

                            Kostas Tsartsaris (PF, 2,09m, 1979) - Panathinaikos
                            EL Stats: 12 Games, 16.25mpg, 8ppg (65.5% 2P, 44.4% 3P, 95.7% FT), 3.4rpg
                            A1 Stats: 12 Games, 19.5mpg, 7.2ppg (56% 2P, 23% 3P, 81% FT), 4.7rpg, 1apg

                            Lazaros Papadopoulos (C, 2,10m, 1980) - Real Madrid
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 21.22mpg, 7.4ppg (50% 2P, 65.9% FT), 3.4rpg, 1.5apg
                            ACB Stats: 19 Games, 23mpg, 5.6ppg (50% 2P, 65% FT), 4.5rpg, 1.9apg

                            Giannis Bouroussis (C, 2,15m, 1983) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 18.10mpg, 5.6ppg (54.4% 2P, 40% 3P, 81.3% FT), 5.1rpg, 1.1bpg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 21.14mpg, 8.9ppg (61% 2P, 40% 3P, 68% FT), 8.7rpg, 1.4apg, 1.4bpg

                            2007 Training Camp Players:

                            Antonis Fotsis (SF/PF, 2,09m, 1981) - Dynamo Moscow
                            UC Stats: 10 Games, 28.07mpg, 11.5ppg (62.5% 2P, 33.3% 3P, 70.4% FT), 7rpg, 1.3spg
                            Russian League Stats: 17 Games, 25.20mpg, 10,2ppg (58% 2P, 29% 3P, 89% FT), 6.1rpg, 1.1bpg

                            Andreas Glyniadakis (C, 2,16m, 1981) - Maroussi
                            A1 Stats: 13 Games, 12.2mpg, 5.2ppg (53% 2P, 65% FT), 3.3rpg

                            Kostas Vassiliadis (SG, 2,00m, 1984) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 10 Games, 13.35mpg, 6ppg (77.8% 2P, 46.4% 3P, 100% FT), 2.1rpg, 1apg
                            A1 Stats: 10 Games, 15.7mpg, 8.2ppg (76% 2P, 50% 3P, 72% FT), 1.6rpg

                            Stratos Perperoglou (SF, 2.03m, 1984) - Panathinaikos
                            EL Stats: 7 Games, 9.29mpg, 2.9ppg (50% 2P, 20% 3P, 33.3% FT), 1.3rpg
                            A1 Stats: 10 Games, 15.3mpg, 6.8ppg (73% 2P, 33% 3P, 63% FT), 2.2rpg, 1.5spg, 1.2apg

                            Alexis Kyritsis (SG, 1.97m, 1982) - AEK
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 28.14mpg, 13ppg (53% 2P, 29% 3P, 79% FT), 2.2rpg, 1.2apg

                            Loukas Mavrokefalidis (PF/C, 2,10m, 1984) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 5 Games, 11.25mpg, 4.8ppg (57.9% 2P, 100% FT), 3.4rpg
                            A1 Stats: 9 Games, 5.44mpg, 1.9ppg (46% 2P, 0% 3P, 75% FT), 1.2rpg

                            Other potential candidates:

                            Dimitris Tsaldaris (SG, 1.94m, 1980) - Aris
                            EL Stats: 14 Games, 26.20mpg, 9ppg (49.2% 2P, 38.8% 3P, 73.3% FT), 2.1rpg, 1.8apg, 1.1spg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 25.29mpg, 11.2ppg (41% 2P, 57% 3P, 78% FT), 1.9rpg, 1.7apg, 1.1spg

                            Giorgos Printezis (PF, 2,05m, 1985) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 12 Games, 20.17mpg, 7.9ppg (64.1% 2P, 22.2% 3P, 58.3% FT), 3.1rpg
                            A1 Stats: 12 Games, 20.58mpg, 9.2ppg (56% 2P, 66% 3P, 83% FT), 4rpg, 1.5apg

                            Kostas Koufos (PF/C, 2,15m, 1989) - Ohio State Buckeyes
                            NCAA Stats: 21 Games, 25.5mpg, 13.5ppg (48.3% FG, 28.6% 3P, 72.4% FT), 6.7rpg, 1.9bpg

                            Giorgos Tsiaras (PF, 2.07m, 1982) - Olympia Larissa
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 28.93mpg, 14.9ppg (48% 2P, 45% 3P, 73% FT), 4.3rpg

                            Ian Vougioukas (C, 2,11m, 1985) - AGOR (loaned by Olympiakos)
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 23.93mpg, 10.2ppg (57% 2P, 0% 3P, 65% FT), 5.1rpg, 1.1bpg

                            Fanis Koubouras (PG, 1,87m, 1983) - Olympia Larissa
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 30.14mpg, 13.9ppg (50% 2P, 33% 3P, 78% FT), 3.6apg, 2.9rpg, 1.5spg

                            Dimitris Verginis (PG, 1,91m, 1987) - PAOK
                            A1 Stats: 13 Games, 25.54mpg, 12.6ppg (38% 2P, 41% 3P, 92% FT), 2.2apg, 1.4rpg, 1spg

                            Dusan Sakota (SF/PF, 2,09m, 1986) - Panionios (loaned by Panathinaikos)
                            UC Stats: 10 Games, 27.44mpg, 11.3ppg (51.9% 2P, 42.6% 3P, 80% FT), 3.3rpg, 1apg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 29.21mpg, 11.1ppg (61% 2P, 45% 3P, 95% FT)m 4.8rpg, 1.1spg, 1apg

                            Vassilis Xanthopoulos (PG, 1,86m, 1984) - Panionios
                            UC Stats: 10 Games, 20.35mpg, 2.6ppg (38.9% 2P, 25% 3P, 75% FT), 3.2apg, 1.3spg, 1.1rpg
                            A1 Stats: 14 Games, 20.21mpg, 3.1ppg (34% 2P, 41% 3P, 57% FT), 3.9apg, 1.6rpg, 1.5spg

                            Giannis Kalambokis (SG, 1,95m, 1978) - Panionios
                            UC Stats: 10 Games, 25.33mpg, 14ppg (60.3% 2P, 30.8% 3P, 77.8% FT), 2.1rpg, 1.5apg, 1.1spg
                            A1 Stats: 13 Games, 26.92mpg, 11.5ppg (49% 2P, 30% 3P, 81% FT), 3.5rpg, 1.4apg

                            Former NT players and callups, unlikely to be there:

                            Manolis Papamakarios (PG/SG, 1,90m, 1980) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 11 Games, 5.45mpg, 1.3ppg (57.1% 2P, 50% 3P)
                            A1 Stats: 13 Games, 13.54mpg, 3.5ppg (33% 2P, 33% 3P, 85% FT), 1.3rpg, 1.1apg, 1.1spg

                            Jake Tsakalidis (C, 2,17m, 1979) - Olympiakos
                            EL Stats: 7 Games, 9.37mpg, 3.6ppg (75% 2P, 50% FT), 1.9rpg
                            A1 Stats: 7 Games, 13mpg, 6.1ppg (84% 2P, 61% FT), 3.6rpg

                            Giorgos Diamantopoulos (SG, 1.95m, 1980) - Kolossos Rhodes
                            A1 Stats: 11 Games, 30.55mpg, 14.7ppg (56% 2P, 42% 3P, 56% FT), 2.8rpg, 1.6apg, 1.2spg

                            Panagiotis Liadelis (SG, 1.94m, 1974) - Azovmash Mariupol
                            UC Stats: 10 Games, 25.47mpg, 11.6ppg (52.5% 2P, 38,9% 3P, 79.5% FT), 1.9rpg, 1.4apg

                            Giannis Giannoulis (C, 2,06m, 1976) - Panionios
                            UC Stats: 9 Games, 23.13mpg, 12.6ppg (67.2% 2P, 69.7% FT), 5.2rpg, 1.8apg
                            A1 Stats: 13 Games, 25.77mpg, 11.4ppg (61% 2P, 0% 3P, 66% FT), 6.3rpg, 1.8apg

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                            • #15
                              Koufos, Printezis, Tsaldaris and Vasiliadis, are the most impressive so far players, not currently playing for NT...

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