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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakz View Post
    Not overrated, I mever rated him high He lacks aggresivity and athleticism. His shooting is also not top level. He should and will never be a significant part of the NT.

    I was positively surpised by Erden in the first game against Spain last week, but today he again made a crappy performance in the last few minutes to lose the game.

    On a side note: they should build a statue for Balbay!
    hey Nakz, great to see you back.

    I agree, Tolga Gecim was a bright prospect, and rated highly then due to his great playmaking ability for his size, but he never made impact in senior level. So I don't think he's been overrated. Same story with plenty of others, like Guven, Arar, etc but the difference is Gecim got the playing time. He just could not get beyond mediocre. You can have one bad game, but I don't think he's gonna break out at some point in the future, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    hey Nakz, great to see you back.

    I agree, Tolga Gecim was a bright prospect, and rated highly then due to his great playmaking ability for his size, but he never made impact in senior level. So I don't think he's been overrated. Same story with plenty of others, like Guven, Arar, etc but the difference is Gecim got the playing time. He just could not get beyond mediocre. You can have one bad game, but I don't think he's gonna break out at some point in the future, either.
    Hey Levenspiel, thanks mate!

    Iĺm still optimistic about Ege Arar, hopefully he will break out soon. I would like to see Sehmus Hazer getting a chance at the NT. He is like a mix of Cedi Osman and Balbay

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    We survive the hardship of FIBA's new format and get our ticket for China. Not kind of success to boast about, however when one thinks the state of chaos currently the whole European basketball is deeply in, I think we have made a good job by ganging up together as country basketball that lead our way to WC. Thanks to all clubs and players who sacrificed their interests for the will of NT. What is worth saying is that in 10 games, 9 different players managed to be the most effective player in those particular games for our team.

    Turkey - Spain: 71-67 (Erden 16 points, 14 rebounds)
    Slovenia - Turkey: 77-86 (Korkmaz 24 points, 5 rebounds)
    Turkey - Montenegro: 79-69 (Ilyasova 17 points, 8 rebounds)
    Turkey - Sweden: 77-52 (Osman 20 points, 11 rebounds)
    Turkey - Ukraine: 80-66 (Korkmaz 21 points, 4 rebounds)
    Latvia - Turkey: 79-70 (Dixon 23 points, 3 assists)
    Sweden - Turkey: 59-58 (Sipahi 10 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists)
    Ukraine - Turkey: 60-67 (Gešim 15 points, 3 assists)
    Turkey - Latvia: 85-73 (Mahmutoğlu 24 points, 3 assists)
    Montenegro - Turkey: 71-66 (Balbay 14 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists)

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    Quote Originally Posted by slice me nice View Post
    We survive the hardship of FIBA's new format and get our ticket for China. Not kind of success to boast about, however when one thinks the state of chaos currently the whole European basketball is deeply in, I think we have made a good job by ganging up together as country basketball that lead our way to WC. Thanks to all clubs and players who sacrificed their interests for the will of NT. What is worth saying is that in 10 games, 9 different players managed to be the most effective player in those particular games for our team.

    Turkey - Spain: 71-67 (Erden 16 points, 14 rebounds)
    Slovenia - Turkey: 77-86 (Korkmaz 24 points, 5 rebounds)
    Turkey - Montenegro: 79-69 (Ilyasova 17 points, 8 rebounds)
    Turkey - Sweden: 77-52 (Osman 20 points, 11 rebounds)
    Turkey - Ukraine: 80-66 (Korkmaz 21 points, 4 rebounds)
    Latvia - Turkey: 79-70 (Dixon 23 points, 3 assists)
    Sweden - Turkey: 59-58 (Sipahi 10 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists)
    Ukraine - Turkey: 60-67 (Gešim 15 points, 3 assists)
    Turkey - Latvia: 85-73 (Mahmutoğlu 24 points, 3 assists)
    Montenegro - Turkey: 71-66 (Balbay 14 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists)
    when I think of our NT, I feel like maccabeo .
    I'm rather pessimistic. Our fancy league is a mockery, imho.
    and almost all of the prospects are going to end up useless for NT level. I've given up on Ulubay, Guven, Arar, Taskiran, Al, Ugurlu, Gecim, Sipahi, Bitim, Arna, etc etc. these are players for 3rd level NTs (16th to 24th in Eurobasket). We could not produce a single player at the top level.

    We do have Korkmaz, Osman for the years to come, but that is all. Seriously, anyone else joining them will be a surprise. [Banvit kids are the most bright spot)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    when I think of our NT, I feel like maccabeo .
    I'm rather pessimistic. Our fancy league is a mockery, imho.
    and almost all of the prospects are going to end up useless for NT level. I've given up on Ulubay, Guven, Arar, Taskiran, Al, Ugurlu, Gecim, Sipahi, Bitim, Arna, etc etc. these are players for 3rd level NTs (16th to 24th in Eurobasket). We could not produce a single player at the top level.

    We do have Korkmaz, Osman for the years to come, but that is all. Seriously, anyone else joining them will be a surprise. [Banvit kids are the most bright spot)
    Omercan Ilyasoglu.
    If Berkan Durmaz show an improvement, there is a core team we can be hopeful for 2021.

    Omercan Ilyasoglu (2001)
    Furkan Korkmaz (1997)
    Cedi Osman (1995)
    Berkay Durmaz (1997)
    Omer Faruk Yurtseven (1998)

    I want to be hopeful with these...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    Omercan Ilyasoglu.
    If Berkan Durmaz show an improvement, there is a core team we can be hopeful for 2021.

    Omercan Ilyasoglu (2001)
    Furkan Korkmaz (1997)
    Cedi Osman (1995)
    Berkay Durmaz (1997)
    Omer Faruk Yurtseven (1998)

    I want to be hopeful with these...
    judging by the development of previous solid prospects, I'm not sure about anyone now, but yes, Ilyasoglu was great out of nowhere. I like Sehmuz Hazer and Mert Akay a lot too, but too early to bank on anything.
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