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    This is the last game of NT I watched while Sarica is NT coach. You have to be real idiot to believe that any team with Dogus Balbay as organizer has any chance to win game against any team stronger then Albania or Maldivi
    This game tonight is real picture where we are. Sarica is our best coach but he is pure idiot. We need foreign coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by janketa View Post
    This is the last game of NT I watched while Sarica is NT coach. You have to be real idiot to believe that any team with Dogus Balbay as organizer has any chance to win game against any team stronger then Albania or Maldivi
    This game tonight is real picture where we are. Sarica is our best coach but he is pure idiot. We need foreign coach
    nah, we need players, not a coach. the current level of available Turkish players is this much. We need to find ways to improve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    nah, we need players, not a coach. the current level of available Turkish players is this much. We need to find ways to improve it.
    I was mad about defeat last night and first thing in my mind was lack of creativity in second half. Who is responsible for that? Pg is the most important player regarding that segment of game and coach is one who decide which player will take that role. I could live with defeat if team has bad shooting day or great shooting day by opponent, but defeat without game plan and without energy is a shame.
    We need better players of course but coaching stuff and selection of players is awfull

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    NT for coming two games against Sweden and Ukraine.

    Doğuş Balbay: Anadolu Efes
    Sertaç Şanlı: Beşiktaş
    Semih Erden: Beşiktaş
    Kartal Özmızrak: Darüşşafaka
    Scott Jordan Wilbekin: Darüşşafaka
    Buğrahan Tuncer: Eskişehir Basket
    Melih Mahmutoğlu: Fenerbahçe
    Göksenin Köksal: Galatasaray
    Ege Arar: Galatasaray
    Metin Türen: Karşıyaka
    Metecan Birsen: Sakarya BŞB
    Barış Ermiş: TOFAŞ
    Cedi Osman: Cleveland Cavaliers
    Furkan Korkmaz: Philadelphia 76ers
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    Extended roster for the next month's games against Montenegro (H) and Slovenia (A):

    PG: Wilbekin - Özmızrak - Balbay - Uğurlu
    SG: Korkmaz - Mahmutoğlu - Tuncer - Öncel
    SF: Osman - Köksal - Durmaz
    PF: İlyasova - Birsen - Türen - Arar - Olmaz
    C: Erden - Şanlı - Yurtseven

    Young roster with couple of experienced additions. If this team manages to qualify for WC, this will be a great step to reinvigorate Turkish basketball. We need to win all the home games and steal at least one away game from direct competitors to secure our ticket to China.

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    Yurtseven didn't join the team due to his pre course at Georgetown University and immigration issues. He mentioned he is on F-1 status of immigration and that restricts his days out of USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    Yurtseven didn't join the team due to his pre course at Georgetown University and immigration issues. He mentioned he is on F-1 status of immigration and that restricts his days out of USA.
    I am glad he is not wasting his valuable summer in NT camp. He has a great work ethic, has already enriched his offensive arsenal by investing himself last summer by intense practices. He is a realiable shooter as a C now and that is a great acquisition. I am so confident he will get maximum benefit from working with Patrick Ewing all summer long. He is conscious. Let him skip few NT camps until he is being a key factor in NT. He will hopefully be the best Turkish C ever. Has every tool to make this dream happen.

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    Turkey won Super Cup in Hamburg, Germany.

    We won 100-79 against Germany and 89-80 against Czech Republic.

    Cedi Osman was MVP of tournament.

    We bet Czech Rep, by coming 21 pts half time deficit (30-51) and 33-10 4th quarter...
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    Osman and Korkmaz are showing great leadership in this drought team, they clearly shoulder every task that is assigned to them. Osman, Korkmaz and Yurtseven (hopefully) trio seems to form the core of this team for the incoming decade. We have plenty of talents who can potentially be good individuals in this team and take this team even few steps further. It is nice to see how the success in youth categories transforms into senior level recently. Big names coming. This year is vital to extend our portfolio by making high potential kids senior-ready players.

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    What about selection from this roster for next windows. Bold ones are my selection.

    Kartal Ozmizrak, Dogus Balbay, Kenan Sipahi, Berk Ugurlu, Bobby Dixon, Ridvan Oncel
    Melih Mahmutoglu, Bugrahan Tuncer, Goksenin Koksal, Yigit Arslan, Can Maxim Mutaf, Enes Taskiran
    Emir Preldzic, Tolga Gecim, Okben Ulubay, Muhaymin Mustafa, Sehmuz Hazer
    Metecan Birsen, Ayberk Olmaz, Ilkan Karaman, Berkan Durmaz
    Berke Atar, Sertac Sanli, Semih Erden, Ege Arar, Egemen Guven, Muhsin Yasar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    What about selection from this roster for next windows. Bold ones are my selection.

    Kartal Ozmizrak, Dogus Balbay, Kenan Sipahi, Berk Ugurlu, Bobby Dixon, Ridvan Oncel
    Melih Mahmutoglu, Bugrahan Tuncer, Goksenin Koksal, Yigit Arslan, Can Maxim Mutaf, Enes Taskiran
    Emir Preldzic, Tolga Gecim, Okben Ulubay, Muhaymin Mustafa, Sehmuz Hazer
    Metecan Birsen, Ayberk Olmaz, Ilkan Karaman, Berkan Durmaz
    Berke Atar, Sertac Sanli, Semih Erden, Ege Arar, Egemen Guven, Muhsin Yasar
    Solid choices, but I would take Sipahi over Özmızrak and Türen over Durmaz. Another point is Yurtseven may join this team for the next window, as he is going to bypass this season in NCAA and playing in NT would help him to gain match practice. It is better than nothing for him. I hope he joins.

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    with Wilbekin,Ilyasova,Asiks,Korkamaz and Osman i can say that coul be the best turkish roster from 2010 with brother hedo like boss?

    next year a roster like this:

    Wilbekin-Sipahi
    Korkamaz-Mahmutoglu-Koksal
    Osman-Birsen
    Ilyasova-Aldemir
    Asik-Erden-Sanli

    not bad,what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italian Pride View Post
    with Wilbekin,Ilyasova,Asiks,Korkamaz and Osman i can say that coul be the best turkish roster from 2010 with brother hedo like boss?

    next year a roster like this:

    Wilbekin-Sipahi
    Korkamaz-Mahmutoglu-Koksal
    Osman-Birsen
    Ilyasova-Aldemir
    Asik-Erden-Sanli

    not bad,what do you think?
    Actually, your roster doesn't accommodate to the vision and momentum we have right now. Too many washed-up players namely Köksal, Aldemir, Aşık and even Erden. It is hard to expect notable contribution from these names, since Aşık not balling for couple of years due to various reasons, Aldemir made handsome money from Daçka and on sleeping mode, Erden is generally ok in NT but not a reliable player whom you can get consistent performance and also we are going to have new hot names in Erden's position, Köksal is useless; he could be a waste of spot in this roster.

    We have many players who are open to development and potentially can leap forward in this season. You may see many new players in China whom you haven't watched. I think we will have a very young roster with couple of experienced additions in China if we manage to qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slice me nice View Post
    Actually, your roster doesn't accommodate to the vision and momentum we have right now. Too many washed-up players namely Köksal, Aldemir, Aşık and even Erden. It is hard to expect notable contribution from these names, since Aşık not balling for couple of years due to various reasons, Aldemir made handsome money from Daçka and on sleeping mode, Erden is generally ok in NT but not a reliable player whom you can get consistent performance and also we are going to have new hot names in Erden's position, Köksal is useless; he could be a waste of spot in this roster.

    We have many players who are open to development and potentially can leap forward in this season. You may see many new players in China whom you haven't watched. I think we will have a very young roster with couple of experienced additions in China if we manage to qualify.
    I generally agree with you a lot. But Erden is always a beast in NT. I would include him all the time. I wish Ömer was in good shape. He would be a great difference makber as for the first time in history our main problem is not defense but it is offense. There is a year till China. Hope he gets better till then.

    Yurtseven should be on the team as the main back up of Semih. Tolga Geçim also should be on the team if he is healthy as the bench playmaker. He and Furkan actually had chemistry in Banvit.

    Cant believe just two year ago our game plan was to keep opponent blow 65 points Buca use we couldnt score more than 70. Now we have 4 guys that can go 20 in Cedi Furkan Ersan and Scottie.

    I generally dont like Balbay but he was great as a playmaker this summer. Hope he keep that up. I dont think I want Melih on this team as he is quite unreliable. Id much rather try a young ster from Banvit on that spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by slice me nice View Post
    Solid choices, but I would take Sipahi over Özmızrak and Türen over Durmaz. Another point is Yurtseven may join this team for the next window, as he is going to bypass this season in NCAA and playing in NT would help him to gain match practice. It is better than nothing for him. I hope he joins.
    I totally forgot Metin Turen. You are right Metin Turen over Durmaz.
    On the other side, Kartal is more consistent than Kenan and I would prefer him. Just personal choice.
    Why is Yurtseven bypassing this year? He just moved to Georgetown this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    Why is Yurtseven bypassing this year? He just moved to Gonzaga Uni this year.
    Because of NCAA transfer rules, he is forced to sit out this season. He can't play in official games, he will be eligible starting from 2019-2020 season. The only reason why he transferred to Gonzaga is having chance to be coached by Patrick Ewing. He wants to enrich his post moves and his position knowledge. He has a great opportunity and time to invest himself.

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    By the way, the little Kanter, Kerem, signed for French team JL Bourgh Basket. I wonder if he was on list just like his older brother.

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    So good, so smooth. He is getting better every day, also showing some sections from his progressing defensive effort this season which has always been the vulnerable point of his game before. He would change the quality of our NT and boost our offense to a notch better on his own. Too bad we will never learn his possible impact on NT in reality unless Erdoğan and Gülen who had been on intimate terms with each other once upon a time decide to be bestie again after all shameful acts we have gone through.

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