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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Here's one of Lith BB portals prediction of the NT roster in upcoming WC qualification:

    PG: Juskevicius, Girdziunas
    SG: Seibutis, Grigonis, Gecevicius
    SF: Gailius, Giedraitis
    PF: Orelikas, Bendzius
    C: E.Kairys, K. Lavrinovic, M. Sajus

    Solid prediction, but I remember very well Adomaitis talked with Delininkaitis and I believe he is still better offensive player than both Juskevicius and Girdziunas. The problem is we don't have a single PG who can guard any-one. Maybe against second tier NT it will be enough, but it's an open hole in contemporary BB. Seibutis and Grigonis at 2 is a very nice and solid duet for such event.

    Gailius seems to be in a good shape at the moment, so I agree that he probably should start at 3. I would consider Sedekerskis here as well because I think he's already better defender than Giedraitis (IMO, no brainer) and maybe even a bot better than Gailius.

    Orelikas is a solid option, he can score at will against second tier opposition. Bendzius? Well hopefully it's correct decision as a short term option, but i would see much more sense integrating one of Sedekerskis/Ehodas here as I think all 3 are more or less at the same level already. But since Adomaitis warmed up Bendzius now he will use him inevitably (some-one who wouldn't be so concerned with short term result alone would make different move here, I'm pretty sure).

    Center position is crappy to be honest. Ok, Kristof is no-brainer still best option here, maybe Darjus is available as well? But we don't have a single stud which we could trust even for such competition. Both Kairys and Sajus are mediocre at best. If we at least could throw Gudaitis or Kavaliauskas, that would be solid. Now this position sucks, IMO.

    Overall I see a lot of scoring power in all positions except 5, but defensively this team would suck at EB level...hopefully it will be more than enough to qualify to WC,
    How about Egidijus Mockevičius for the PF slot? I see he's signed on with Rytas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    How about Egidijus Mockevičius for the PF slot? I see he's signed on with Rytas.

    Why do you treat him as PF? He's a center. And I was about to mention him when I remembered him since he signed with Rytas. Should be better than Kairys and Sajus, IMO. Hard to say though, he dominated only NCAA, in NBA summer league was decent at times. Surely would be interesting to see him playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Why do you treat him as PF? He's a center.
    I find it tough to get my head around these modern day centers who aren't even 210 cm. tall, but I suppose I'll have to learn since Martynas Sajus, Evaldas Kairys, Domantas Sabonis, Antanas Kavaliauskas and Artūras Gudaitis all fail to clear this bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    I find it tough to get my head around these modern day centers who aren't even 210 cm. tall, but I suppose I'll have to learn since Martynas Sajus, Evaldas Kairys, Domantas Sabonis, Antanas Kavaliauskas and Artūras Gudaitis all fail to clear this bar.
    Well, Sabonis is a 4/5 tweener. All others are true centers. I'm a bit disappointed we have to discuss such level players as Kairys and Sajus when we speak about NT though. Despite the fact we grabbed 3 medal collections in 10's and had some very decent chances to grab even more (2011, 2014, 2017), 10's has been rough talent wise so far. Real decadence compared to 00's. Hopefully it's temporary and we'll bounch back with way more talented teams. (I mean we don't have a single SG who could be an average Euroleague player, Seibutis and Grigonis are below average, when the last time we had situation like that...).
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    Scenario B. With EL players I would like to see such team:

    Lekavicius, Kalnietis
    Seibutis, Grigonis, Valinskas*
    Ulanovas, Maciulis
    Jankunas, D-Mo**, Ehodas
    Gudaitis, Kavaliauskas

    * I focused on Valainskas game recently and I dear to say one thing - he is already a better defender than Kalnietis, Juskevicius (let alone Gecas and Milas). He's not at the level of Lekavicius, Seibutis, Grigonis, but he may easily be the best 4th defensive guard at the moment. That said I want him in the roster since players like Juskevicius on those do or die games can't bring things on the table and the importance of the defensive presence massively increases. Besides, Valinskas is the future and players like Juskevicius, Milaknis are not...

    ** If D-Mo would come would be nice because he's getting into shape and might even be the best player, but if not I would invite Orelikas. Watching how Ehodas dominates I don't really see a point to go with Bendzius, but I'm afraid Adomaitis will proudly take him knowing that he didn't even include Ehodas to extended preliminary roster before Eurobasket.
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    Juskevicius,Girdziunas
    Seibutis,Grigonis,Gecevicius
    Giedraitis,Gailius
    Orelikas,Bendzius
    Ksistof,Kairys

    There is even chance see Kalnietis and Maciulis helping, because its seems they are not needed for their teams anymore and there is chance they will be allowed to help nt team.

    Team will look similiar to that, and they should qualife without to much problems to WC.

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    Both Maciulis and Kalnietis should be trying to get to other clubs, where they are needed.

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    Seems like D-Mo might be available. No games in the schedule.
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    Motiejunas will not be allowed to play in qualification games by chinas club,they dont wanna risk they most paid player.

    http://www.sportas.lt/naujiena/24128...uvos-rinktines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawshank View Post
    Motiejunas will not be allowed to play in qualification games by chinas club,they dont wanna risk they most paid player.

    http://www.sportas.lt/naujiena/24128...uvos-rinktines
    Not disappointed at all. Dude needs time to get his shit together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawshank View Post
    Juskevicius,Girdziunas
    Seibutis,Grigonis,Gecevicius
    Giedraitis,Gailius
    Orelikas,Bendzius
    Ksistof,Kairys

    There is even chance see Kalnietis and Maciulis helping, because its seems they are not needed for their teams anymore and there is chance they will be allowed to help nt team.

    Team will look similiar to that, and they should qualife without to much problems to WC.
    So any more preliminary guesses as to the composition of the roster for the game with Kosovo? When and where are the Lithuanian players scheduled to assemble for the first practice anyway?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    So any more preliminary guesses as to the composition of the roster for the game with Kosovo? When and where are the Lithuanian players scheduled to assemble for the first practice anyway?

    Good to see you guys are just as confused as us.
    We know nothing. No 24 man player pool - no speculation from anyone in the media, nothing. The first game is 3 weeks out.

    What a mess.

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    There is a prieliminary list, but as always it doesn't make any real sense (it's just FIBA rule) - i don't know why people are waiting for this. It always has nothing to do with the final team it will be: there aren't any unaxpected names (even if they are they won't be in the final roster for sure), there are players that won't be able to play by 99% and the list still can be added.

    https://www.basketnews.lt/news-11479...epsininku.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    Good to see you guys are just as confused as us.
    Confusion is our specialty here.

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    So latest news D-Mo in and Lekavicius might be in as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    So latest news D-Mo in and Lekavicius might be in as well.
    How did you get the conclusion Pao will allow Lekavicius to play? Because there's no word about the local players here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    How did you get the conclusion Pao will allow Lekavicius to play? Because there's no word about the local players here.
    I didn't get to that conclusion. It's Eurohoops that says Efes, CSKA, Chimki, Maccabi and Pana considering to allow their players to play for national teams...
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    In top15 players Adomaitis named for games no euroleague players, no Motiejunas and no Gecevicius or other more or less as was predicted.

    Starting 5 will look something like this: Juskevicius, Seibutis,Grigonis,Orelikas,K.Lavrinovic

    In my eyes this 5 best players we can put up there.If our pgs wont be able to control the team, we can put Renaldas in Pg position and start any true Sf from those 3 we will have available.

    From that list only about 3-4 players would make ltu real roster for tournament games.

    More less we should be ok, team is strong enough.

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    So these fifteen players are to gather for "training camp" in Palanga on November 20th with a game in Kosovo scheduled on the 24th:



    Hmmmmm. I'm a bit surprised not to see Tadas Sedekerskis and Martynas Echodas in place of Arnoldas Kulboka and Laurynas Birutis.

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    Positions:

    1 Horrible (zero creativity and defence, chucking fiesta). Oh, Vasiliauskas? Still crappy...
    2 Solid, better than we had in EB
    3 Meh, description of mediocrity, Kulboka intrigues though
    4 I'm listening. Stud veteran and chubby poor man's Kleiza ready to shoot the lights out
    5 Start Birutis and play him 40 minutes, otherwise I'm dying from boredom

    PS: How is Cepukaitis better than Ehodas? Funniest thing I ever heard
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