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    hmm the video posted in Sept 22, says he is 17 yrs old, i think his birthday in in June, so therefore he turns 19 in 2019? I hope would be a great addition to the 2018 FIBA Asia U18 team

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    hmm the video posted in Sept 22, says he is 17 yrs old, i think his birthday in in June, so therefore he turns 19 in 2019? I hope would be a great addition to the 2018 FIBA Asia U18 team
    Martin at PG, Hepa at PF, and Edu at C. Who do you think would compliment these guys in the starting 5? Hopefully, he is really eligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawHeart View Post
    Martin at PG, Hepa at PF, and Edu at C. Who do you think would compliment these guys in the starting 5? Hopefully, he is really eligible.
    Assuming the three above will be released by their US schools for FIBA Asia U18, this is our suggested lineup:

    MARTIN, PG
    ILDEFONSO, SG
    HEPA, SF
    EDU, PF
    SOTTO, C
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilas Army View Post
    Assuming the three above will be released by their US schools for FIBA Asia U18, this is our suggested lineup:

    MARTIN, PG
    ILDEFONSO, SG
    HEPA, SF
    EDU, PF
    SOTTO, C
    Add Tamayo to complete the frontline. Padrigao to relieve Martin. At this time, Kai could serve well if he comes off the bench as a reliever for Edu. Maybe in the future both can play at the same time as a twin tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoisiah View Post
    BTW, nice name. Maybe his father drinks a lot of liquor haha.
    Nice one! you put a smile on my face! go for #RemyMartin

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    I watched the game of Arizona State U vs. Washington State U last night at TV5, &I can't help but be impressed with Remy Martin's defense. His two steals in the 2nd half enabled Arizona State to pull away from a tight game. He finished with 10 pts., 3 rebs., 1 asst. in 19 mins.

    One thing I want about US college hoops is that teams really put premium on defense, specially the guards. Makikita mo na sa backcourt pa lang grabe na yung defensive pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    I watched the game of Arizona State U vs. Washington State U last night at TV5, &I can't help but be impressed with Remy Martin's defense. His two steals in the 2nd half enabled Arizona State to pull away from a tight game. He finished with 10 pts., 3 rebs., 1 asst. in 19 mins.

    One thing I want about US college hoops is that teams really put premium on defense, specially the guards. Makikita mo na sa backcourt pa lang grabe na yung defensive pressure.
    He's good and can become very good in 2 or 3 years.

    But he's not our westbrook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo View Post
    He's good and can become very good in 2 or 3 years.

    But he's not our westbrook.
    Why not?
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    kid is damn good. i think in my opinion he is the true heir of castro. his intensity and motor and athleticism is just so good.
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    Defensively, I think Martin will be significantly better than Castro.

    Offensively, I think Martin will be at least equal to or most likely even better than Castro. Martin is taller & more athletic than Castro.

    Martin is averaging close to 10 pts./game right now in the US NCAA Div. 1 tournament. I think if he plays in the PBA right now, he will get that same average, or most likely, even higher than that (perhaps he will average 15 pts./game). And we are talking here about an 18/19-year old kid.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    While there is historical reason why we should temper expectation of fil-foreigners. especially with a number of failures like Lutz and Ellis, there is also good basis to make projections on the worst and best case scenarios of prospects like Martin and AJ. To not make those projections because of previous bust isn't what scouts are paid to do. they're paid to find and identify prospects they feel will be game changers. And to me while obviously I can be wrong , i'm willing to make my bet on Remy Martin and AJ Edu that they will be the future of Philippine basketball. Yes I know i stand the chance of getting it wrong , but I'd rather put my eggs with them if I had to make a choice rather than the other prospects. I've seen enough to take that gamble regardless of their age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    While there is historical reason why we should temper expectation of fil-foreigners. especially with a number of failures like Lutz and Ellis, there is also good basis to make projections on the worst and best case scenarios of prospects like Martin and AJ. To not make those projections because of previous bust isn't what scouts are paid to do. they're paid to find and identify prospects they feel will be game changers. And to me while obviously I can be wrong , i'm willing to make my bet on Remy Martin and AJ Edu that they will be the future of Philippine basketball. Yes I know i stand the chance of getting it wrong , but I'd rather put my eggs with them if I had to make a choice rather than the other prospects. I've seen enough to take that gamble regardless of their age.
    same. i have higher hopes on remy martin as compared to kobe. my hopes for AJ depends on where he will go to college.
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    The level of competition of Arizona State is probably similar or even better than the level of competition in the PBA, considering his age you have to be impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikatrix View Post
    The level of competition of Arizona State is probably similar or even better than the level of competition in the PBA, considering his age you have to be impressed.
    the kid has impressive motor and athleticism. he is like a hybrid of castro and calvin.hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikatrix View Post
    The level of competition of Arizona State is probably similar or even better than the level of competition in the PBA, considering his age you have to be impressed.
    Significantly better. D1 (Pac 12, in this case) colleges would make mincemeat of our PBA teams. The Centennial team learned it the hard way, i don't think things are any better now. Remember that these schools continuously produce NBA players. Meanwhile, the PBA....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    Significantly better. D1 (Pac 12, in this case) colleges would make mincemeat of our PBA teams. The Centennial team learned it the hard way, i don't think things are any better now. Remember that these schools continuously produce NBA players. Meanwhile, the PBA....
    i think remy martin despite his lack in size has a chance to follow clarkson in the NBA. hope me makes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    i think remy martin despite his lack in size has a chance to follow clarkson in the NBA. hope me makes it.
    Definitely, there's a chance. He's a 4 star, along with Hepa. To put that into perspective, Kobe Paras is a 3 star. Martin is on ESPN's Top 100 (at the 55th-70th range perhaps). Hepa i think made it inside the top 50 before committing to the Texas Longhorns. This shows Remy Martin is in good company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    While there is historical reason why we should temper expectation of fil-foreigners. especially with a number of failures like Lutz and Ellis, there is also good basis to make projections on the worst and best case scenarios of prospects like Martin and AJ. To not make those projections because of previous bust isn't what scouts are paid to do. they're paid to find and identify prospects they feel will be game changers. And to me while obviously I can be wrong , i'm willing to make my bet on Remy Martin and AJ Edu that they will be the future of Philippine basketball. Yes I know i stand the chance of getting it wrong , but I'd rather put my eggs with them if I had to make a choice rather than the other prospects. I've seen enough to take that gamble regardless of their age.
    sus...there is no need to bet on that. Things that one should really bet on are specific milestones in the future like one of the following:

    1. martin and edu will make it in d nba

    2. martin and edu will make d mythical 5 of fiba-asia

    3. if they play in d pba, one or both will be named as mvp

    4. they will lead us to world cup and/or olympics as starters of gilas team without a naturalized player

    etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    Definitely, there's a chance. He's a 4 star, along with Hepa. To put that into perspective, Kobe Paras is a 3 star. Martin is on ESPN's Top 100 (at the 55th-70th range perhaps). Hepa i think made it inside the top 50 before committing to the Texas Longhorns. This shows Remy Martin is in good company.
    hope he stays healthy and continue to improve with AZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikatrix View Post
    The level of competition of Arizona State is probably similar or even better than the level of competition in the PBA, considering his age you have to be impressed.
    Agree.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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