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    The split pea soup looks delicious.

    ...and yet I'd rather go to the Chinese buffet...

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    So... do you want comments on Finnish food or basketball? Never fall for Ericsson, Nokia's better - Thank you for carrying money to our society, although seemingly it isn't anymore enough to maintain our welfare society or even "excellent" school system - well, both are being slowly destroyed by political choices of concentrating on efficiency and productivity. Our traditional foods are very much like Lithuanian ones (fish, meat, potatoes...), we just don't pack them in the zeppelin shape.

    Cant' help it, but Topo feat. Pippen vs. Honka Playboys was a perfect marketing gimmick. The house was packed like the day before- meaning 2 x 3000-4000 viewers. The average audience of this league is ca. 900... Helsinki had no team on highest Finnish league in 2000-2005 (before that there were 3, all fell to financial trouble, Topo is the 1st to come back), so marketing is extremely important.

    Pippen was again awful during first half, but during last 15 minutes he played as a regular and consistent teammate. We all know that his speciality was to be an excellent team member, and that was what he showed in the game. No selfish plays, no fooling around with things one could do years ago but not anymore, no circus tricks. Why to hire Tony Delk when you could have Scottie Pippen?

    Pippen did not take any young Finns' place in the game, because the teams are allowed only three foreigners - one of the regular americans did not play. In fact, because Topo is having several injuries, the coach had collected bunch of young guys to the bench and let them play as much as possible (Honka's bench is also full of juniors). Topo won and happened because two Finns (Timo Heinonen and Iiro Tenngren) played an excellent game. 18th win a row... Honka's playmaker Petteri Koponen had decent statistics but in fact was totally uncapable to lead his team to any better result. Judging from yesterday, his NBA-dream is faraway. But there has been many better games, too.

    Best of all, Topo's manager, who invited Pippen to Finland, has moved to business world, and hopefully his tricks are finished now and we can concentrate on developing and marketing our own players and teams. Judging from Topo's current coach's comments, he wasn't thrilled about the marketing gimmick, but as there were no other choice for him, he played along. The ex-manager has been talking about bringing Jordan to Finland... What can I say? Of course I want to see Jordan playing, but hes' the only acceptable one.

    After all sarcastic comments, I have to admit, that the event was a nice success. People got to see an NBA legend showing some flashes of his former skills & despite of Pippen's presence, it was Finnish players who were they key players for the win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakkapeliitta
    Cant' help it, but Topo feat. Pippen vs. Honka Playboys was a perfect marketing gimmick. The house was packed like the day before- meaning 2 x 3000-4000 viewers. The average audience of this league is ca. 900... Helsinki had no team on highest Finnish league in 2000-2005 (before that there were 3, all fell to financial trouble, Topo is the 1st to come back), so marketing is extremely important.
    I suppose I'm glad that ToPo got what they wanted: the extra viewers and revenue. That's always important for a team. And frankly, if Pippen's one game can get more kids interested in basketball, well, that's important.
    Pippen did not take any young Finns' place in the game, because the teams are allowed only three foreigners - one of the regular americans did not play.
    Good. I suppose I was wrong about that.
    Best of all, Topo's manager, who invited Pippen to Finland, has moved to business world, and hopefully his tricks are finished now and we can concentrate on developing and marketing our own players and teams. Judging from Topo's current coach's comments, he wasn't thrilled about the marketing gimmick, but as there were no other choice for him, he played along. The ex-manager has been talking about bringing Jordan to Finland... What can I say? Of course I want to see Jordan playing, but hes' the only acceptable one.
    Of course, Hakka. If Pippen, heck, if BJ Armstrong came to play for the Dayton Jets (my hometown semi-pro team), of course I would go and see him! I would love to see him. Yeah, it would be a gimmick, but of course I would like to see him play.
    After all sarcastic comments, I have to admit, that the event was a nice success. People got to see an NBA legend showing some flashes of his former skills & despite of Pippen's presence, it was Finnish players who were they key players for the win.
    That's great. I'm glad to see you say that it was the Finns who made the game good. ...and yet, I still don't like it. I don't know why. I really don't know why I don't like it. Maybe I'm just stubborn.

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    For those interested in watching the game check here.
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    the fish sandwich looks interesting, so long as its cooked i dont midn trying it. actually looks good, except the meatball thing, looks bland. actually all look bland
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    It looks like Pippen is going through every Scandinavian league. This time he played in Sweden for Sundsvall (currently topping the league). In the match against Akropol last Friday he scored 21 pts (4/8 FG, 3/7 3pt, 4/5 FT) + 12 rebs + 6 assists + 2 steals in 30 minutes. Not bad at all I'd say. Full stats of the game here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur
    This time he played in Sweden for Sundsvall (currently topping the league). In the match against Akropol last Friday he scored 21 pts (4/8 FG, 3/7 3pt, 4/5 FT) + 12 rebs + 6 assists + 2 steals in 30 minutes. Not bad at all I'd say. Full stats of the game here.
    I watched the game on telly and it was over before it started.

    Akropol is a terrible team and got their rear end properly massaged before it was all over and done with (Sundsvall is the main favourite to win the championship this year(the only team that has the size to play competitive int. ball) imo).
    Pippen played ok, it was hard to look past the fact that he is not exactly young anymore and it was even worse to see the way Sundsvall catered to inflate Pippens box score.
    The arena, however, was packed and the game got shown on national tv (its only the playoffs that is normally shown) so everyone got theirs:

    -Pippen got 300.000 SEK
    -Akropol deservedly got torn a new one (they will hopefully be out of the league next year)
    -The basketball league got some media exposure in midseason
    -Sundsvall made a neat profit from the attendance and ad sales and finally
    -the commentators got to practice their over the top US accents (and make themselves look ridiculous)

    It looks like Pippen is going through every Scandinavian league.
    Awwww, Rickhardur!
    You just dropped a few notches in my book. Surely you are aware that Finland (albeit geopolitically and culturally close) are not part of Scandinavia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy
    Awwww, Rickhardur!
    You just dropped a few notches in my book. Surely you are aware that Finland (albeit geopolitically and culturally close) are not part of Scandinavia?
    Haha Billy I thought you knew me better I simply streched it a bit, it's common and not a mistake. Historically, geopolitically and culturally as you mentioned there's a relation, you know that better than me. I would never ever make such a mistake mate
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    I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. If Sundsvall is the favorite in the league already, why do they need to bring in Pippen? Like Hakka said, it's just part of the show. I still don't like it...the only problem is I'm not sure why I don't like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy
    Akropol is a terrible team and got their rear end properly massaged before it was all over and done with


    Would Arkopol have lost even if Sundsvall was without Pippen? Probably, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvblair
    I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. If Sundsvall is the favorite in the league already, why do they need to bring in Pippen? Like Hakka said, it's just part of the show. I still don't like it...the only problem is I'm not sure why I don't like it.
    The thing is that this game was never close and was never going to, nor did Sundsvall have to sit anyone as they only have nine men on their team as well as some additional filler that would never been allowed to play no matter the situation. Also, Sundsvall has only filled one of their none European spots so noone in the rotation had to sit out.

    As for you not liking it, its probably the gimmick factor and I agree, it is silly to go about things this way although it was good from a financial and media standpoint for the basketball league in general and Sundsvall especially.

    Quote Originally Posted by mvblair
    Would Akropol have lost even if Sundsvall was without Pippen? Probably, right?
    Id say the margin would have been slightly bigger, between 5-10 points perhaps.
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