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    Default Day 1(August 8): Fiba ASIA 2017

    So be
    New Zealand vs Kazkhstan
    Japan vs Australia
    Hong Kong vs Taipei
    Lebanon vs Korea

    In bold teams i think will win


    My power ranking for the tournament

    1 - Lebanon - Hosts. and full power
    2 - Australia - Their b team, lots of nba players missing will hurt them
    3 - China - Missing way many key players. Yi Jian Lian Zhou Qi etc
    4 - Iran - No Behrami no Kamrani golden days are gone
    5 - New Zealand - Much like Australia a b team
    6 - Phillippines. MISSING Blatche.

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    Lebanon naturalized player - Norvel Pelle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=075ehY5Ljxc

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    Top notch new pg

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    Will Joseph Chartouny put Wael ARAKJI on bench?

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    IMO Australia is number one.

    Iran (Haddadi Kazemi Jamshidi Yakchali etc i think they have a solid team) Iran is a powerfull team in Asia and they will stay in the top 4 for a longtime.

    China is China always here even without JianLin and Zhou Qi. Plus they always have the best preparation so don't underestimate them.

    Philippines send their best team. Believe me even without Blatche. It's a dangerous team and maybe the most unpredictable team. I've read that Fajardo is injured so maybe they lack height under the basket but they are back in the Asian map since 2011 and they want the gold medal.

    NZ : I have no idea about this young team but they want to prove that they can compete with the best Asian teams so be careful.

    South Korea : always there always hard to beat. In a good day they can beat everyone.

    Lebanon : good team but lack shooters but with the presence of Arakji, Khatib and a true center like Pelle. I see us in the semi final.

    Japan : their federation are working in the right track. Believe me they can just improve year after year and we can see it in the youth competition already.
    But I don't see them in the semi final.

    Jordan : Unfortunately without the presence of Zaid Abbas and Duwairi it will be very hard to them to be in the semi final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    IMO Australia is number one.

    Iran (Haddadi Kazemi Jamshidi Yakchali etc i think they have a solid team) Iran is a powerfull team in Asia and they will stay in the top 4 for a longtime.

    China is China always here even without JianLin and Zhou Qi. Plus they always have the best preparation so don't underestimate them.

    Philippines send their best team. Believe me even without Blatche. It's a dangerous team and maybe the most unpredictable team. I've read that Fajardo is injured so maybe they lack height under the basket but they are back in the Asian map since 2011 and they want the gold medal.

    NZ : I have no idea about this young team but they want to prove that they can compete with the best Asian teams so be careful.

    South Korea : always there always hard to beat. In a good day they can beat everyone.

    Lebanon : good team but lack shooters but with the presence of Arakji, Khatib and a true center like Pelle. I see us in the semi final.

    Japan : their federation are working in the right track. Believe me they can just improve year after year and we can see it in the youth competition already.
    But I don't see them in the semi final.

    Jordan : Unfortunately without the presence of Zaid Abbas and Duwairi it will be very hard to them to be in the semi final.
    Our success depends on how we fully translate our guys pba game to fiba.. yes this guys scores less against big imports in pba but still they are much better than what they showned in prev tournaments (talking about our bigs) as the guard play and wing play has been reliable for us with Blatchy anchoring us on our growth pains..

    below top 8 is a disaster top 8 is a consequence of the less preparation and top 4 is the status quo imo..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    So FIBA does even Youtube live-streams from U-16 Central America & Caribbean events but not from one of it major events? I was able to watch U-20 B Division Euro Champs between Azerbaidjan and Armenia but not from a senior-level continental championship? Wow...

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    is pelle playing? didnt see him in Lebanon's roster in fiba asia cup website

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    Yes Pelle is playing, we are outplaying Korea easily. 18 - 12 now.

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    Good win for Lebanon. Arakji showcases the future while Fadi was displaying his vintage self. Pelle is too young and seems lost in the offense and even more lost in defense. For Korea, the extended minutes given to the struggling Heo Ung and Lee Jung-Hyun hurt badly. Both are poor defenders even in the KBL. Should have given more time to better two-way players in Jeon Jun-Beom and Lim Dong-Seop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eshmawi View Post
    Yes Pelle is playing, we are outplaying Korea easily. 18 - 12 now.
    Why you get him? You can get much better player to match the quality of your best 5 even a good 6 9 anerican would do..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by eshmawi View Post
    Yes Pelle is playing, we are outplaying Korea easily. 18 - 12 now.
    Why you get him? You can get much better player to match the quality of your best 5 even a good 6 9 anerican would do..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    IMO Australia is number one.

    Iran (Haddadi Kazemi Jamshidi Yakchali etc i think they have a solid team) Iran is a powerfull team in Asia and they will stay in the top 4 for a longtime.

    China is China always here even without JianLin and Zhou Qi. Plus they always have the best preparation so don't underestimate them.

    Philippines send their best team. Believe me even without Blatche. It's a dangerous team and maybe the most unpredictable team. I've read that Fajardo is injured so maybe they lack height under the basket but they are back in the Asian map since 2011 and they want the gold medal.

    NZ : I have no idea about this young team but they want to prove that they can compete with the best Asian teams so be careful.

    South Korea : always there always hard to beat. In a good day they can beat everyone.

    Lebanon : good team but lack shooters but with the presence of Arakji, Khatib and a true center like Pelle. I see us in the semi final.

    Japan : their federation are working in the right track. Believe me they can just improve year after year and we can see it in the youth competition already.
    But I don't see them in the semi final.

    Jordan : Unfortunately without the presence of Zaid Abbas and Duwairi it will be very hard to them to be in the semi final.
    No way philippines sent its best team. Sure these guys are PBA players but half of it are bullsh1t. And disnt even have practice together. They had like 10 practice that is not complete. And theae practice days are held while the pba is still ongoing thus the absence of majority of players. And dont evwn tell me that main point guard jalalon is best team. The coach doesnt even want him for asia cup but was forced because of the one player per pba team rule of the pba support for national team. There are ao many better guards than that guy. Dont insult our country with your ignorance. Lol

    We will even get beaten by china later by more than 40 points. No way we can beat australia. I think we are just in japan's level. They are even better as a team. While we only rely on forced and lucky shots thus the inconsistency. And defense is lacking as there is no defensive tactician in our coaching staff reaching the semis will be an over achievement. I doubt they will even get past the qfinals
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    There is legit report of this Gilas team beaten by cadets team(amateur national team reserves) last August 4 in a tune-up game.
    That is how bad the chemistry and morale of this Gilas team is right now. So dont even mention them in your assessment because we dont really deserve to be mentioned. We are an insult to FIBA Basketball. I hope the PBA commissioner who is now in Lebanon with his thick ugly face gets bombed and killed there. He is that evil and must be put away.

    I think we will perform worst of Philippine teams in 10 years(from 2007 team up to now. this might just be the worst performance ever)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ador Cruzado View Post
    No way philippines sent its best team. Sure these guys are PBA players but half of it are bullsh1t. And disnt even have practice together. They had like 10 practice that is not complete. And theae practice days are held while the pba is still ongoing thus the absence of majority of players. And dont evwn tell me that main point guard jalalon is best team. The coach doesnt even want him for asia cup but was forced because of the one player per pba team rule of the pba support for national team. There are ao many better guards than that guy. Dont insult our country with your ignorance. Lol

    We will even get beaten by china later by more than 40 points. No way we can beat australia. I think we are just in japan's level. They are even better as a team. While we only rely on forced and lucky shots thus the inconsistency. And defense is lacking as there is no defensive tactician in our coaching staff reaching the semis will be an over achievement. I doubt they will even get past the qfinals
    I don't think he was insulting anyone. Our team is indeed formidable on paper because it's stacked with international veterans; but on the court they lack practice time and may have chemistry issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    Why you get him? You can get much better player to match the quality of your best 5 even a good 6 9 anerican would do..
    I wasnt pro naturalizing him.His offensively limited. Whats he good at is blocking shots, if some team plays a center who shoots from three and draws him out of the paint.he becomes useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ador Cruzado View Post
    No way philippines sent its best team. Sure these guys are PBA players but half of it are bullsh1t. And disnt even have practice together. They had like 10 practice that is not complete. And theae practice days are held while the pba is still ongoing thus the absence of majority of players. And dont evwn tell me that main point guard jalalon is best team. The coach doesnt even want him for asia cup but was forced because of the one player per pba team rule of the pba support for national team. There are ao many better guards than that guy. Dont insult our country with your ignorance. Lol

    We will even get beaten by china later by more than 40 points. No way we can beat australia. I think we are just in japan's level. They are even better as a team. While we only rely on forced and lucky shots thus the inconsistency. And defense is lacking as there is no defensive tactician in our coaching staff reaching the semis will be an over achievement. I doubt they will even get past the qfinals
    Relax man. I was not insulting your country !
    I've said that you sent your best team without Blatche.
    Castro, Romeo, Norwood, Aguilar, Fajardo, CS, etc.
    A lot of players in the list of 12 was playing in the olympic qualification.

    Now how I see your team against China : It's hard to me because im not familiar with this Chinese team but for sure China NT had a good preparation against top level teams and at this level it's clearly an advantage.
    Unfortunately Gilas team didn't have a preparation like the others NT (btw you did it in the Lebanese style, we used to do it in the past lol), two weeks training it's very short BUT you have the same coach so i guess the same system and the same passion.
    Im optimistic that you can give a headache to every top team because you are UNPREDICTABLE. You have an unique style of basketball which makes the other NT lost against you.
    Be positive im sure your guys will do their best and i guess they will be a lot Gilas fans in the stadium !
    Go Gilas !

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    Why you get him? You can get much better player to match the quality of your best 5 even a good 6 9 anerican would do..
    Norvel pelle was our last available choice unfortunately. All the names we wanted either asked forhuge amount of money or changed their minds about joining at the last minute. Norvel played in the Lebanese league and was great. He is huge defensively but cant match the fast plays of korea bigs thats why he didint play most of the game. The coach strategy was to switch all the 5 players on korea bigs because they shoot the 3 too well. Norvel pelle is slow on switching and would have been useless. The strategy worked well and korea shot 24% only from outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    Relax man. I was not insulting your country !
    I've said that you sent your best team without Blatche.
    Castro, Romeo, Norwood, Aguilar, Fajardo, CS, etc.
    A lot of players in the list of 12 was playing in the olympic qualification.

    Now how I see your team against China : It's hard to me because im not familiar with this Chinese team but for sure China NT had a good preparation against top level teams and at this level it's clearly an advantage.
    Unfortunately Gilas team didn't have a preparation like the others NT (btw you did it in the Lebanese style, we used to do it in the past lol), two weeks training it's very short BUT you have the same coach so i guess the same system and the same passion.
    Im optimistic that you can give a headache to every top team because you are UNPREDICTABLE. You have an unique style of basketball which makes the other NT lost against you.
    Be positive im sure your guys will do their best and i guess they will be a lot Gilas fans in the stadium !
    Go Gilas !

    So where are you now ?? "China will beat us etc"
    You have to stay positive man ! You have a good team with a high fighting spirit and that's the more important thing in basketball !
    Congrats to Philippines !
    Well deserved win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    So where are you now ?? "China will beat us etc"
    You have to stay positive man ! You have a good team with a high fighting spirit and that's the more important thing in basketball !
    Congrats to Philippines !
    Well deserved win
    hopefully we both have a deep run in it. but NZ is no pushover and kazahkstan will compete..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Just saw replays of other NT games.

    Lebanon played great against Korea and Fadi still has it.

    Not quite sure about your naturalized player though. He was okay. Not Vogel or Woods level but he can help you guys out.

    Here's hoping for a politics-free tournament.
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