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    Quote Originally Posted by gaLj View Post
    Escoto is a scrub. I have seen him during his residency years. He slows, weak body and walks like a penguin.

    Van Opstal is a notch higher than escoto, but still, both of them are notches below GS level. Hence, not suited for RP NT.
    Who is the Escoto is this?


    Ray.... his potential is yet to be seen in the international area,
    Really not seen internationally? So what do we call US? Oh okay? How about the 3 on 3 tournament which he played a long side Teng, Pates and Tolomia? So it's not international? Okay.
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    uaap season 75 mvp bobby ray parks...

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    uaap season 75 mvp bobby ray parks...

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    The Final Score: Ray Parks – a young, precocious, furious UAAP MVP


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    By MICO HALILI

    “An athlete who knows himself is unstoppable. The soul is the zone
    that every athlete must strive to enter." – J.R. Moehringer

    The UAAP will proclaim an 18-year old as king of college basketball. Yet the teen-ager is upset. He’s upset because his team didn’t go as far as he wanted. He’s upset because he couldn’t give his team more points. Or rebounds. Or assists. Or steals. Or blocks. Or wins.

    “Next season will be a better year," Ray declares. “I can tell you that much."

    What a child wants, he tries to get. Once he fails to get it, his world crumbles. Ray Parks, the son of a 7-time PBA Best Import, the cornerstone of NU’s ambitious bid for dominance, is acting like a child. And it’s a great thing. Ironically, he’ll be better because of it. Because he refuses to settle for less. Because he takes little pride in moral victories. Because a franchise player must want to, even irrationally so, win more than anyone else.

    “Each time we lose, my teammates use the word ‘bawi’. I hate that word," Ray admits. “Every time somebody says that I want to say ‘I don’t want the next game, I want THIS game.’ I hate losing."

    After his team misses the Final Four with six wins and eight losses, a mature player might react, “It’s only the start. Hopefully we can improve during the off-season and do better next year. What’s important is we competed in almost every game. There’s nowhere to go but up."

    But Ray Parks is mature. He’s just not the kind of mature-talking player we’re used to. Some players shine because they’re humble. Ray stands out because he’s honest.

    “I’ll tell you straight up what I see," Ray says. “Because I want others to be the same with me."

    Ang bata hindi marunong magsinungaling. Ray Parks knows he’s good. He’s not afraid to show it. It’s the most honest way to play – if you can score, go score. Opponents know he’s good. They’re not afraid to shut him down. It’s the most honest way to defend a player ready to score 30 points in a 40-minute game.

    “Ray has been double-teamed. He’s had to do more. He’s playing like an import," Bobby Parks Senior shares. “And the more he gets used to that. It’s going to make him so much better."

    I’m amazed Ray Parks is still a child – albeit a man-child who can do it all. Imagine what he’ll do once he becomes a man. For now, he’s upset. Even when he makes an impossible behind-the-back pass while trying to save the ball from going out of bounds, while teammates on the bench rise from their seats to see the improbable (the scene inexplicably gets better) and his behind-the-back pass turns into an immaculate shot and no words can describe the insanity of what transpires, he fumes. Ray, as his statistics suggest, ruled the UAAP. It’s not enough. National University’s boy king wants to rule the world. --GMA News
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    Quote Originally Posted by potz05 View Post
    Who is the Escoto is this?



    Really not seen internationally? So what do we call US? Oh okay? How about the 3 on 3 tournament which he played a long side Teng, Pates and Tolomia? So it's not international? Okay.

    Parks also played in the Nike tournament, competed against high caliber prospects from Europe, US and Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allanhboy View Post
    Parks also played in the Nike tournament, competed against high caliber prospects from Europe, US and Asia.
    Ah tell that to the guy who says Ray Parks' potential hasn't yet to be seen in INTERNATIONAL scene.. what a douche..
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    was Ray Parks Jr. born in the Philippines? hope we can provide the necessary papers in Fiba next time so that they won't find holes in banning players.This would somehow serve as a lesson for us come Fiba Asia 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex07 View Post
    was Ray Parks Jr. born in the Philippines? hope we can provide the necessary papers in Fiba next time so that they won't find holes in banning players.This would somehow serve as a lesson for us come Fiba Asia 2013.
    Yup. He was born and raised here till he was 13. After that, he left for the USA to play highschool basketball. With Ray Parks, there shouldn't be a problem because he is a legit Filipino-American.

    Hoping Lutz and Lassiter get to play. As per Sir Nardy, the Philippines followed both the FIBA and Philippines rules to a tee. It's only FIBA-ASIA who's trying to stir problems.
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    and parks jr already played in youth olympics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potz05 View Post
    Ah tell that to the guy who says Ray Parks' potential hasn't yet to be seen in INTERNATIONAL scene.. what a douche..
    God! What a moron ! he failed to comprehend what I said.

    His performance in the youth performance doesn't translate that he'll have the very same performance in a higher level of competition.

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    Accumulated Garbage Points = UAAP MVP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaLj View Post
    His performance in the youth performance doesn't translate that he'll have the very same performance in a higher level of competition.
    Okay Mr. Genius how did you know? Are you Madam Auring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaLj View Post
    God! What a moron ! he failed to comprehend what I said.

    His performance in the youth performance doesn't translate that he'll have the very same performance in a higher level of competition.

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    Joke of the year :

    Accumulated Garbage Points = UAAP MVP ?
    Nah. Not really a joke glaj. He was after all, by and large, the best player in this year's UAAP. He played some poor games but he also played a lot of excellent games. He averages the most minutes, carries the most load and is also the leader of his team. Sure, Greg Slaughter may have deserved it more because ADMU had the number 1 record. Then again, he has Kiefer Ravena (who has a case for being the best player in the UAAP if he wasn't part of an excellent team system and allowed to play like Parks) playing beside him. He also has Salva, Monfort, an excellent bench and champion coach. With Parks, who does he have? He has an excellent coach and 1 big man plus a lot of talented but inexperienced players alongside him.

    While he should not have won the award, I don't think we can say that he wasn't deserving of the award. He deserved consideration and he won. Rules are rules. We just complain too much. Remember that voting for the MVP was handled by the media before everybody went up in arms complaining about Rabeh winning the MVP award despite Jervy leading the pack the entire year in statistical points. Now, when we have a clear cut player who was the "best" producing player in terms of statistics amongst everyone in the field, we still complain?

    E ano nga ba talaga? Right galj?
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    Could not care anymore about Ray Parks tainted MVP for me we know who the real MVP was this season (Slaughter or Nuyles my pick) for his sake he better Improve his game and his team performance so critics like me could shut up..

    if not i will be back next year in this very same thread netpicking up his game and his school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Startah View Post
    Could not care anymore about Ray Parks tainted MVP for me we know who the real MVP was this season (Slaughter or Nuyles my pick) for his sake he better Improve his game and his team performance so critics like me could shut up..

    if not i will be back next year in this very same thread netpicking up his game and his school.
    I agree !!

    Nuyles, Garcia and Slaughter were robbed.

    Ray hardly give his team a victory. He failed to propel his team to the play-offs. His stats points are questionable, since most his points came from garbage time --stats padding ika-nga, no quality or whatsoever.

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    its certainly a flawed system but I think the school officials would rather prefer this than to say... leave it up to the voting process whom(may I apologize to those who are affected) tends to favor "certain" schools. Just take for example the PBA MVP Jimmy Alapag. Poor guy was crowded by boos during the ceremony.

    did he deserve the boos? Probably not.

    did he deserve the award? The boos certainly speak for themselves.

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    is there a perfect set of criteria to determine the MVP? no, there isn't.
    maybe GalJ should suggest to the UAAP board the best and flawless system of MVP voting.
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    The MVP stats already include won-game bonuses. It was almost a cinch for Slaughter until Adamson clamped down on him and NU got two straight against DLSU and NU. Either the won-game bonuses are too small, or NU is letting Parks inflate his stats. If I was the UAAP board, I'll only limit the MVP candidates to players whose teams made the Final Four.
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    to be fair some players who are excellent need to carry the team by his lone some yet been noit ehough because other teams are too powerful in their own good.. yes basketball is measured in wins but in a special award a side prize like Most valuable player individual performance is measured and within the criteria
    imposed. Ray reign supreme by a thin line over Slaughter.

    Greg is the hands down mvp in the 1st round but Ray Arguably finish better in the second round carrying NU to 4 wins against three in the 2nd round
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Startah View Post
    Could not care anymore about Ray Parks tainted MVP for me we know who the real MVP was this season (Slaughter or Nuyles my pick) for his sake he better Improve his game and his team performance so critics like me could shut up..

    if not i will be back next year in this very same thread netpicking up his game and his school.
    Hahaha. It's not like I don't agree with you and galj that he shouldn't win the award. I myself would rather have a player from a Final Four Team win the award. Slaughter certainly deserved the award in my opinion. And yes even Alex Nuyless deserves consideration. But the rules are the rules. He produced the most and got the most statistical points; therefore, he won.

    Let's give the kid a break. He's only 18 anyway. We know how good he is so let's just wait for him to break through and improve even more. MVPs are individual awards anyway. At the end of the day, and he said this himself, he'd rather win a championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elcian View Post
    Hahaha. It's not like I don't agree with you and galj that he shouldn't win the award. I myself would rather have a player from a Final Four Team win the award. Slaughter certainly deserved the award in my opinion. And yes even Alex Nuyless deserves consideration. But the rules are the rules. He produced the most and got the most statistical points; therefore, he won.

    Let's give the kid a break. He's only 18 anyway. We know how good he is so let's just wait for him to break through and improve even more. MVPs are individual awards anyway. At the end of the day, and he said this himself, he'd rather win a championship.
    Quality > Quantity

    Our main argument is that: most of his accumulated statistical points came from garbage time ... and that was stats padding. Any marquee player in the UAAP can do that in any given time and day. So him getting that award is really questionable.

    I have against him, but other players are more deserving to bagged that award than him.

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