Turkish Basketball League (BSL) - 2017/18

[gockun]

yeah, and we have to mention that Efes and Mr Perasovic are now the worst in this aspect. it's actually embarrassing. In a team loaded with young talent (Saybir, Bitim, Mustafa, Demir, even Erdogan), no one plays a single fucking minute, even in TBL... instead, they signed mediocre players like Muric...

Peras already said that, it i impossible for the young to get a minute in euroleague and state that he may give some in BSL.

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Peras already said that, it i impossible for the young to get a minute in euroleague and state that he may give some in BSL.

I did not see that. I'd fire him immediately then if I was the GM. and I'd fire the GM right away too if I was the president
he does not play them in domestic league either.
I'm wondering what he thinks he will do in the EL with this roster. becoming 10th instead of 15th?
besides, these kids probably cannot do worse than some of the expats in the team.

[gockun]

I did not see that. I'd fire him immediately then if I was the GM. and I'd fire the GM right away too if I was the president
he does not play them in domestic league either.
I'm wondering what he thinks he will do in the EL with this roster. becoming 10th instead of 15th?
besides, these kids probably cannot do worse than some of the expats in the team.

I watched Es-es vs Efes game, Onuralp Bitim entered the game in the first half and he found 5 points in transitions; unfortunately other Efes players ignored him on offence. He seem confident and his shooting stroke is almost exellent.

[okanial]

Hope he`ll take the Furkan route and leave soon. Banvit or Beşiktaş might be nice fits

[gockun]

Hope he`ll take the Furkan route and leave soon. Banvit or Beşiktaş might be nice fits

Sarıca's team is a disaster for every young player just like Ene's. But I agree about Banvit, plus Karşıyaka, Kunter's GS, Giresun could be other options. However it is still too early for this kind of move I think.

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Sarıca's team is a disaster for every young player just like Ene's. But I agree about Banvit, plus Karşıyaka, Kunter's GS, Giresun could be other options. However it is still too early for this kind of move I think.

yeah, it's a bit early... maybe Perasovic will be sacked soon

For talents like Bitim, I don't get why it's such a big deal to give them playing time. They'll do fine at 16 or 18. He did pretty well as you said in TBL game and I was counting seconds to maybe see him again, but of course it did not happen.

with this current approach, Hido or Mirsad would never become serious players. They both were taking serious roles at 18 yo, and sometimes tuning the games over. I still remember Mirsad's bringng us the win in Athens by coming out-of-nowhere. Memo would be playing in 2nd league. Ibo would be getting 5mpg.

[gockun]

so..
Yiğit Arslan getting lost week after week, hope him to escape from Ene as soon as possible
Trifunovic is a nice detail, Turen and Karahan getting better, a bit disappointed with Ugurlu and Güven, it is sad to see them in the bottom of the league
J. Birsen awakening, a rebounding machine (one of the league's top rebounder so far)
Enes Taşkıran groving up every week
Mert Çevik played some nice games
Ogulcan Baykan made some flames
Ege Arar is a huge disappointment so far.
Obradovic and Perasovic doesn't trust youngters obviously. As a Fener fan I want Arna and Duran to go on loan just like Ugurlu next year at least.

[SaliH]

Don’t really know where to write this down but they started knocking down Abdi Ipekci Arena... The end of one legendary indoor arena for Turkey’s basketball has come.

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Don’t really know where to write this down but they started knocking down Abdi Ipekci Arena... The end of one legendary indoor arena for Turkey’s basketball has come.

I watched only a couple of games there, but it was a "monument", and it was cemented in our bball memories. Sad to see it go.

[gockun]

So, Fener won aganist Daçka, 49th consecutive win in home games at TBL, record improving. According to eurohoops, it is also the longest series in europe too.
Banvit defeting Tofaş with young guns (Tolga, Şehmuz, Rıdvan) combined 41 points, 13 asists is the cherry of the week. It makes it sweeter aganist Ene who is proclaiming himself to be developer of young players (but actually ofcourse not).

[Levenspiel]

Regular season is over; playoff teams & relegated are decided.

rkg	Team	W	L
1	Fenerbahce Dogus	27	3
2	Tofas	24	6
3	Anadolu Efes	22	8
4	Besiktas Sompo Japan	20	10
5	Banvit	18	12
6	Darussafaka Basketbol	18	12
7	Eskisehir Basket	16	14
8	Sakarya BSB.	14	16
9	Galatasaray Odeabank	13	17
10	Pinar Karsiyaka	12	18
11	Istanbul BSB.	11	19
12	DI Buyukcekmece	10	20
13	Trabzonspor	10	20
14	Gaziantep Basketbol	10	20
15	Yesilgiresun Bld.	9	21
16	Muratbey Usak	6	24

ps. links go to tblstat.net, for details of each team's stats.

Playoffs:

Fenerbahce - Sakarya
Tofas - Eskisehir
Efes - Darussafaka
Besiktas - Banvit

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first games:

Fenerbahce - Sakarya: 81-66
Tofas - Eskisehir: 85-58
Efes - Darussafaka: 78-69
Besiktas - Banvit: 77-79

(links to boxscores are from the tblstat.net)

I watched the Tofas-Eskisehir & Besiktas-Banvit games.

the first one was a disappointment, game was over in the first Q. and that's a wasted opportunity for Eskisehir who managed to avoid Fener by their last week win. was expecting a better display.

Besiktas-Banvit game was much better, went to the wire, Banvit managed to steal this one with the help and energy of 2 young players (97-born Oncel and 99-born Hazer). Congrats to Filiposvski & Banvit who actually make use of their great youth program.

[Levenspiel]

rkg	Team	W	L	European Competitions
1	Fenerbahce Dogus	27	3	Euroleague, F4, 2nd, 25-11
2	Tofas	24	6	EuroCup, RS, 4-6
3	Anadolu Efes	22	8	Euroleague, RS, 7-23 (last)
4	Besiktas Sompo Japan	20	10	BCL, Top16, 10-5-1
5	Banvit	18	12	BCL, 1/4 final, 12-6
6	Darussafaka Basketbol	18	12	EuroCup, Champion, 19-3
7	Eskisehir Basket	16	14
8	Sakarya BSB.	14	16
9	Galatasaray Odeabank	13	17	EuroCup, Top16, 6-10
10	Pinar Karsiyaka	12	18	BCL, Top16, 12-6
11	Istanbul BSB.	11	19	FibaEurope Cup, 2nd rd, 10-6
12	DI Buyukcekmece	10	20	FibaEurope Cup, 2nd rd, 10-6
13	Trabzonspor	10	20	FibaEurope Cup, QR1, 1-1
14	Gaziantep Basketbol	10	20
15	Yesilgiresun Bld.	9	21
16	Muratbey Usak	6	24

[Erkan12]

Tofaş beats Efes with 91-63 on the first game of the semi-finals.

TOFAŞ: Morgan 11, Crocker 16, Mejia 12, Henry 8, Owens 2, Berkan Durmaz 4, Barış Ermiş 7, Yiğit Arslan 11, Efe Beşok, Mert Konuk, Kadji 11, Muhsin Yaşar 9

Anadolu Efes: Doğuş Balbay 6, Motum, Weems 12, Dunston 12, Simon 13, McCollum 3, Brown 10, Birkan Batuk, Arda Erdoğan, Onuralp Bitim, Berk Demir 4, Muhaymin Mustafa 3

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semifinals:
> Fenerbahce - Banvit: 3-0
> Tofas - Efes: 3-1

the final; Fenerbahce - Tofas.

Tofas is in the finals first time after 18 years. They were a formidable team back then, with David Rivers, Rashard Griffith, Serkan Erdogan, Mehmet Okur, etc. They had won the league, and then strangely pulled out of the league.