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    Quote Originally Posted by Srle View Post
    All major basketball countries should just boycott Fiba until they change this ridiculous competition format. Let Albania,Netherlands, San Marino etc. compete at the Olympic tournament, that would bring the ratings up I am sure
    If I am one of these low level countries who normally would never have a shot to qualify I would get like 8 or 9 guys together and just practice as a team for a year straight. Like the old Red Army Soviet hockey team. Put them up in a barracks military style, food, water and basketball. By the time the games start these guys will know each other like the back of their hands and can play together blind folded.

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    Our women played their women in the qualification for the women eurobasket , I am sure there is somewhere male NT besides, San Marino is just an example, you can throw any NT with the bad rankings and 0 basketball tradition instead of them. Let them compete at world championships, Olympic games , those qualifications are pointless, Fiba will never be at Fifa level.
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    Well yeah..at FIFA there is no Catalan lawyer highjacking the european competitions along with 11 teams..If you want a strong FIBA stop supporting Jordi and his mafia

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    Fiba is not doing nothing to make it any better, they are bad as Jordi. The most stupid thing they could have done was to introduce this new system of competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    What a complete shit show. In a way I almost want the United States somehow to fail to qualify in order to bring to light how dumb this new format is.
    Indeed, the format is utter shit and there's no question about it. Talking about Greece f.e it's like B-C tier players who have never played together again, trying to beat Eurobasket sides in full strength like Great Britain and Israel (only minus Casspi) which will not miss any single players in these qualifiers. Same goes for every other team which relies on NBA and EL guys. That's alteration of result. They're trying to boycott their own product.
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    for some of us unfortunately EB finished a week ago so I for once had a lot of time to think about the upcoming WC qualification.
    after the EB 2017. (final game yet to be played) in two months time the new qualification system will start.
    actually it already started during the summer with pre-qualifications for some teams.
    Sweden, B&H, Netherlands, Austria, Estonia, Kosovo, Bulgaria and Belarus made it from there.
    anyway, no one knows what to expect from the qualifications because of two rounds being played during NBA and EL season which means no players from either league for the rounds in november 2017. and february 2018.
    for some teams that will of course be a huge problem and we can expect a lot of surprise results.
    teams won't be affected only by players missing but also coaches.
    from what we now, after EB Tanjević retired and Montenegro is without a coach, I read somewhere that Missas is no longer Greece coach, Petrović is no longer croatian coach but we already named his successor Ivica Skelin.
    even before EB we knew that Messina won't be leading the italian team anymore. Meo Sacchetti is taking over italian team.
    Fleming won't be coaching Germany anymore either.
    Kokoškov probably won't be leading slovenia as he is an assistant coach in NBA.
    anyone else?
    first games are being played on november 23. (the same day EL is playing it's round 9) and the second game is november 26.
    what we do know is that deadline for the 24 players list is october 6.
    a lot of things will be known then but for sure it will be hectic.

    Groups are as follows:
    Group A
    Montenegro
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Belarus

    23.11. Montenegro - Spain and Slovenia - Belarus
    26.11. Belarus - Montenegro and Spain - Slovenia

    Group B
    Sweden
    Turkey
    Latvia
    Ukraine

    23.11. Sweden - Ukraine and Turkey - Latvia
    26.11. Latvia - Sweden and Ukraine - Turkey

    Group C
    Poland
    Kosovo
    Lithuania
    Hungary

    23.11. Poland - Hungary and Kosovo - Lithuania
    26.11. Lithuania - Poland and Hungary - Kosovo

    Group D
    Italy
    Netherland
    Croatia
    Romania

    23.11. Netherlands - Croatia and Italy - Romania
    26.11. Croatia - Italy and Romania - Netherlands

    Group E
    B&H
    Belgium
    Russia
    France

    23.11. B&H - Russia and Belgium - France
    26.11. France - B&H and Russia - Belgium

    Group F
    Bulgaria
    Czech Republic
    Iceland
    Finland

    23.11. Bulgaria - Finland and Czech Republic - Iceland
    26.11. Iceland - Bulgaria and Finland - Czech Republic

    Group G
    Germany
    Serbia
    Austria
    Georgia

    23.11. Germany - Georgia and Serbia - Austria
    26.11. Austria - Germany and Serbia - Georgia

    Group H
    Israel
    Great Britain
    Greece
    Estonia

    23.11. Israel - Estonia
    24.11. Great Britain - Greece
    27.11. Greece - Israel and Estonia - Great Britain

    every game is important as points from first round are being taken to the second round as well. three teams from each group go to the second round.
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    the old system was broken.Spain or Greece or Lietuva hadnt played in a qualification round for eurobasket since 2003.They'd quailfy to the next tournament by finishing in high positions in the previous (even when Greece flopped at euro 2013 they got a wild card for World Cup 2014 which meant automatic qualification for 2015(!!).All this made no sense and doesnt happen in any other sport.In principal,FIBA windows is a good idea,despite what journalists and coaches who are at Jordi's pay roll want you to believe..I also like how every result counts..there will be some epic battles for those places.

    The NBA players problem is a real one and i think 2 more games should be played in dates where NBA players would be available.That'd mean 6 out of 12 rounds with full rosters.As for Jordi and his mafia he knew since 2015 about it and chose the conflict.It's absurd that he thinks he's in NBA's position and he has the same leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    the old system was broken.Spain or Greece or Lietuva hadnt played in a qualification round for eurobasket since 2003.They'd quailfy to the next tournament by finishing in high positions in the previous (even when Greece flopped at euro 2013 they got a wild card for World Cup 2014 which meant automatic qualification for 2015(!!).
    Here's another one. Great Britain qualified for Eurobasket 2013 because they were one of the Olympic participants in 2012. But they only played at the Olympics because they got a wildcard as hosts and ending up winning just one game.

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    Personally I think you could have solved a lot of issues just by moving more of the windows into July-September. You may not have gotten everyone's A team, but you would have gotten at least B teams for everyone.

    If you take out the issues with NBA/Euroleague, I actually quite like the idea behind the qualifiers. Solves the nonsense wild cards FIBA used to give out, and gives teams actual home games that matter (can't wait for Greece/Finland/Serbia home games).

    But it's impossible to ignore teams will have c and d level teams ( if not worse) for the bulk of this competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picek View Post
    what we do know is that deadline for the 24 players list is october 6.
    a lot of things will be known then but for sure it will be hectic.
    Where did you read abot deadline?This list will b only for this window or for all he first round of the qualyfing round?

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    With the zero Euroleague players anyway, BiH shouldn't be worried.

    We are looking for a new American for our team.

    Most of the guys from our young pre -qualifications team should be there again.

    Coach Vujošević said he is counting on those three experienced players who missed pre - qualifications: Andrija Stipanović, Elmedin Kikanović, Milan Milošević.

    He also said that he doesn't count on the long time national guard Nemanja Gordić. Rumor: Some disagreements from their Partizan Belgrade time, Nemanja doesn't like Duško and Duško doesn't like Nemanja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italian Pride View Post
    Where did you read abot deadline?This list will b only for this window or for all he first round of the qualyfing round?
    our federation and our press.
    that is the reason we wanted to appoint new coach asap.
    not sure if it is only for this window or for both november & february or possibly entire qualifications.
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    Henrik Rodl was announced as new head coach of German NT.
    he has been Flemings assistant in the last two years.

    our tv commentators yesterday during the final also mentioned who will take over slovenian NT but didn't hear the name.
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    Without NBA and EL players, Spain most competitive team would be something liuke this:

    Colom-Fernández-San Miguel
    Brizuela-Corbacho
    Beirán-Rabaseda
    Aguilar-Antelo-Llovet
    Arteaga-Sáiz

    Interesting team, our best player would be the naturalized Colom, how people like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Chacho View Post
    Without NBA and EL players, Spain most competitive team would be something liuke this:

    Colom-Fernández-San Miguel
    Brizuela-Corbacho
    Beirán-Rabaseda
    Aguilar-Antelo-Llovet
    Arteaga-Sáiz

    Interesting team, our best player would be the naturalized Colom, how people like
    Apparently Spanish federation doesnt care about Euroleague Garbajosa said that they will call their best players from EL to play in NT in qualifications
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    BiH announced 16 players roster:

    PG Nemanja Gordić (88') 6'4'' Budućnost

    PG Amar Gegić (98') 6'7'' Bayern

    PG Adi Zahiragić (95') 6'2'' Kakanj

    PG Sani Čampara (99') 6'1'' Andorra

    SG Almir Hasandić (90') 6'3'' Sloboda

    SF Edin Atić (97') 6'7'' AEK

    SF Džanan Musa (99') 6'9'' Cedevita

    SF Adin Vrabac (94') 6'8'' Tenerife

    SF Aleksandar Lazić (96') 6'8'' Mega

    SF Nedžad Muratović (95') 6'7'' Sloboda

    SF Milan Milošević (85') 6'8'' Patras

    PF Emir Sulejmanović (95') 6'9'' Fuenlabrada

    C Andrija Stipanović (86') 6'10'' Cedevita

    C Elmedin Kikanović (88') 6'11'' Monaco

    C Markus Lončar (96') 7'0'' Široki

    C Obrad Tomić (93') 6'10'' Partizan
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    so Efes allowed Ballbay and Batuk to play, but does not Simon

    How this makes this qualis regular?
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    16 players called by Meo Sacchetti for the games against Romania and Croatia:

    Awudu Abass (1993, 200, A, EA7 Emporio Armani Milano)
    Pietro Aradori (1988, 196, G, Segafredo Virtus Bologna)
    Paul Stephane Lionel Biligha (1990, 200, C, Umana Reyer Venezia)
    Christian Charles Burns (1985, 203, A/C, Red October Cantů)
    Andrea Crosariol (1984, 212, C, Red October Cantů)
    Amedeo Della Valle (1993, 194, P/G, Grissin Bon Reggio Emilia)
    Ariel Filloy (1987, 190, P, Sidigas Avellino)
    Diego Flaccadori (1996, 193, G, Dolomiti Energia Trentino)
    Simone Fontecchio (1995, 203, A, EA7 Emporio Armani Milano)
    Raphael Gaspardo (1993, 207, A, The Flexx Pistoia)
    Alessandro Gentile (1992, 200, G/A, Segafredo Virtus Bologna)
    Marco Giuri (1988, 194, P, Happy Casa Brindisi)
    Antonio Iannuzzi (1991, 208, C, Fiat Torino)
    Achille Polonara (1991, 205, A, Banco di Sardegna Sassari)
    Brian Sacchetti (1986, 200, A, Germani Basket Brescia)
    Luca Vitali (1986, 201, P, Germani Basket Brescia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    so Efes allowed Ballbay and Batuk to play, but does not Simon

    How this makes this qualis regular?
    Because Balbay and Batuk does not actually play with Efes any way. No loss if they're tired or injured or whatever.

    I'm curious about who will eventually be there. We were already barren in the EC, with only 4 somewhat good players, 3 of which is surely unavailable now (Osman, Korkmaz, Mahmutoglu).
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    Scottie Wilbekin will play for Bosnia and Herzegovina.

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