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    Slovenia U20 : Bulgaria U20 79:63

    Slovenia U20: Preldžić 12, Ja. Močnik 15, Klobučar 10, Mlakar 11, K. Lorbek 6, Čigoja 2, Krušič 10, Brčina 2, Vidmar 13.

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    MontenegroU20-SloveniaU20 71-80 (26:17, 12:21, 20:25, 13:17)

    Montenegro: Martinić 11, Su. Šehović 7, Mijović 6, Savović 4, Milatović 5, Bjelić, Kuveljić, Gajović 3, Zeković 3, Se. Šehović, Jovanović 3, Dašić 29.

    Slovenia: Perko, Preldžić 14, Močnik 8, Klobučar 14, Mlakar 11, Lorbek 5, Koštomaj 6, Krušić 4, Ciglar 2, Vidmar.

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    That's a very good result in my opinion. Coach Alilović said they played terrible in the first quarter but still they managed to tie the result after one half. In the last two quarters they controlled the game and won the game. Today they play last friendly game vs. home team of the tournament - FYROM U20.

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    It's really nice to see, that the team has a spirit to fight after bad 1st quarter. Every day I'm more optimistic about getting medal in U-20 championship. I also think Vidmar could be MVP. Allthough Illyasova (and some more) will be tough challenge.
    "Rudy Gay is a pretty good young player and yet he might be the only BB player that people feel very uncomfortable wearing his jersey."

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    For Montenegro this was also a good result. The team is not a real 87 generation. It is a mix of 87 and 88. And wihtout Mijatovic and Kastratovic the team is playing good and had good resulst so far. They beat Macedonia one day befroe with 83-75. Today they will play against Bulgaria. And i think that Slovenia has good chances for a medal.

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    Slovenia U20 : FYROM U20 82:72 (21:24, 20:15, 15:17, 26:16)

    Preldžić 7, Klobučar 10, Mlakar 9, K. Lorbek 16, Koštomaj 2, Krušič 7, Čigoja 2, Vidmar 16.

    From thursday to saturday they'll play vs. Spanish, Polish and Lithuanian U20 NT.
    One player will get out of NT untill monday.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    One player will get out of NT untill monday.
    Borut Grušovnik (208cm, 1987, C) was picked as the player who won't play on the EC. The last few days before the championship another player will be removed from the squad. In my opinion Aljoša Krišto (195cm, 1987, SG/SF) or one of the playmakers will be removed.

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    Slovenia U20 : Spain U20 84:71 (19:19, 49:39, 65:55) full stats

    Slovenia U20: Perko 0, Preldžić 13 (1:1) + 8 rebounds + 3 assists, Krišto 0, Ja. Močnik 14 (4:6) + 7 assists, Klobučar 21 (3:3) + 4 rebounds + 4 steals + 3 assists, Mlakar 6, K. Lorbek 2, Brčina 2, Koštomaj 2, Krušič 2, Čigoja 5, Vidmar 17 (1:2) + 15 rebounds

    Spain U20: Lull 9, Ribas 2, Lucas 0, Sol 2, Sanchez 10, Beiran 11, Perez 0, Fernandez 13, Teurel 5, Gama 0, Rey 11, Oscar 8.
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    Slovenia U20 squad named Jaka Klobučar (197cm, 1987) as their captain for upcoming U20 EC tournament.

    Slovenia U20: Lithuania U20 84:74 (24:17, 20:27, 16:13, 24:17)

    Slovenia U20: Preldžić 9, Krišto 2, Ja. Močnik 9, Klobučar 18, Mlakar 2, K. Lorbek 5, Brčina 2, Koštomaj 4, Krušič 4, Čigoja 3, Vidmar 26.
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    3rd victory on the tournament

    Slovenia U20 - Poland U20 80:68 (19:17, 17:12, 18:11, 26:23)

    Preldžič 16 +6reb, Močnik 14 +6assists, Vidmar 10 +12 reb, Krušič 8, Lorbek 7 +6reb, Klobučar 6, Mlakar 6, Krišto 6, Koštomaj 5; Diduszko 17, Pietras 13 +10reb, Michalsti 13, Kulik 10, Dluski 6, Jarecki 5

    ...faster than you, Elaj
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Final 12 players for European Championship U20 are:

    Point Guards:
    Tadej Koštomaj (Alpos Šentjur) - 1987; 187 cm
    Jan Močnik (Nova Gorica) - 1987; 182 cm
    Rok Perko (Triglav Kranj) - 1987; 178 cm

    Guards:
    Jaka Klobučar (Geoplin Slovan) - 1987; 198 cm
    Aljoša Krišto (KK Parklji) - 1987; 195 cm
    Klemen Lorbek (Union Olimpija) - 1988; 198 cm
    Dejan Mlakar (Geoplin Slovan) - 1988; 192 cm

    Small Forwards:
    Emir Preldžić (Fenerbahce Ulker) - 1987; 204 cm

    Power Forwards:
    Drago Brčina (Zlatorog) - 1987; 203 cm
    Dejan Čigoja (Geoplin Slovan) - 1988; 203 cm

    Centers:
    Matej Krušič (Alpos Šentjur) - 1987; 211 cm
    Gašper Vidmar (Geoplin Slovan) - 1987; 209 cm

    Headcoach: Miro Alilović (Geoplin Slovan)
    Assistent coaches: Bojan Lazič (Union Olimpija) and Luka Bassin (Hrastnik)

    Very strange selection. I don't want to know what happens if Emir gets injured. The last player who was called off was Olimpija's Jaka Ptičak (198, SF/PF, 1988). I expected Krišto or Lorbek to fall off the list, but I guess coach Alilović is convinced Preldžić can play alone all the games on SF. On the other hand, Klobučar can also help at SF, but his natural position is SG, while Klemen Lorbek is PG/SG trapped into SF body. Very strange because of the injury Emir had a month ago.
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    first win

    Slovenia - Serbia 80-78
    Klobučar 22, Vidmar 17 +15reb, Preldžič 15 +9reb, Močnik 12 +6assists; Teodošić 21 +6reb +6assists, Labović 19 +7reb, Dragović 18

    I thought I'd be able to watch at least a replay... but obviously TV slovenija prefers soap operas...
    The result is a bit surprising since serbian team, like it or not, posses much longer bench and some great talent even after the split with Montenegro. That's the game I was afraid of, i do admit it sounds a bit naive, but the rest of the games sould be easier if the team will give the same effort, which by the words of Vidmar was a big one. Since the points aer transfered to the next round this win might also be decisive for getting in the semi's in case Slovenia looses some games vs. Russia, Turkey or Lithuania in the next stage.

    game vs. France tommorow. They're weakened due to their best 88' players playing at U19 WC, but with their talent pool I am sure they managed to put up a respectable team. strangely I haven't heard of any player on their roster, which didn't use to happen in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Slovenia - Lithuania 96-84
    Vidmar 22 +7reb in 19 minutes, Mlakar 22, Močnik 18 +10 assists, Krušič 14 +9reb, Klobučar 13; Ivanauskas 21 +5assists, Butkevicius 15 +8reb, Dylis 15, Petrukonis 10

    One thing I didn't like was the defense... obviously. Luckily enough there was enough firepower to outscore Lithuanian team, thanks to Močnik- great speed, great court vision and again great speed and desire of the tiny fellow. I am really surprised about him, heard many things about him in the past, it's true that was his best performance on this championship, but I still believe he is an amazing player. It was hard to keep up with him even for some teamates...
    Nice to see Krušič keeping up. People were criticising his post-up skills in the pas, but considering he is only playing bball for few years that'll improve (as it obviously is right now) he won't be a star, but with his build (unlike Rizvič or Pavič) he could become a servicable center- and these days that alone is enough to earn big bucks.
    Predlžič is out of shape... too bad, since I do think with him playing the way he can this team would be out of the league.
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    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    5th place overall.

    Before the tournament I was thinking that semi's should be our goal and with the unpredictability whatever happens there it should be considered as a good result. I though that there wouldn't be any crucial moment before that, but it turned out the last game in the group was important as well.
    Having just one loss in the tournament should be considered a good achievement, if I wouldn't actually watch that game.
    anyway I don't think anyone is to blame, coach (eventhough I dissagre with some of the things Alilovič did at that game), or confused ref's, or the players that tried but burned out in their desire.

    positive surprises:
    Krušič
    It's obvious he has a lot to learn, but the fact he is only playing basketball for sth. like 3 years now makes people believe he could improve. Unlike Rizvič and Pavič that played a simmilar role in youth teams as Krušič did, he imo can put up much more weight than those two. Rumours are Helios is about to sign him.

    Močnik
    After that phenomenal show vs. Turkey he raised public expectations a lot, but eventhough he was terrible vs. Russia I think he can be labeled as a surprise, especially considering he was playing in II. division this year. for a strong club, but anyways.

    Mlakar
    He hit some important shots when it matered. He showed some signs of life with Slovan this year (especially if watching 1.A league)

    something in between:
    Vidmar
    He should've torn apart most of U20 teams, however all the teams focused on covering him. Got a lot of cheap fouls, but considering a lot of those were arguable shot blocks I do believe he got surpressed by the refs occasionaly.

    dissapointments:
    Koštomaj
    nowhere near the PG that played in Laško in 05/06

    Lorbek
    ...

    Preldžič&Klobučar's streaky shot


    it'll be tougher next year, since only Mlakar, Lorbek and Čigoja were 88' born in this team. Muha, Tomič and Markič should be added from 88' generation, along with some 89ers as Bilič, Dragič and Vujasinovič. I can't remember any servicable big man born in 88' or 89', so I guess those guys won't exactly compete for the medals, but I think they can also be right up there with the best teams.

    anyone knows what's going on with our U18?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    What is with our 90' generation? I remember Janez Drvaric saying in one of the broadcasts, that it's very talented generation unlike 88' and 89'. Is it really?
    "Rudy Gay is a pretty good young player and yet he might be the only BB player that people feel very uncomfortable wearing his jersey."

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    The only player I've seen from 90' generation is Dino Murič. Seen him 2 years ago, but he played PF with less than 200 cm height.

    I think I can say Slovenia will always have guards good enough for the top spots at junior competitions. It's just that they can only reach those top spots whenever a servicable big man appears. And since there aren't good tall guys available every generation some generations (as 88 and 89) probably won't overachieve... maybee that was Drvarič's point... since I think there are some nice guards and forwards there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Didn't want to start a new thread about our U16 team, with U16 EC underway- elaj you decide if that deserves a new thread or changing the title of this one...

    The championship starts on Friday.

    friendlies: 3 losses

    Slovenija : Češka 59:75
    Strelci za Slovenijo: Štern 5, Gorjanc, Sarajlija 12, Besedič 2, Radosavljevič 2, Nikolič Smrdelj 18, Golež 2, Murič 4, Buda 5, Gavrić 7.

    Slovenija : Srbija 68:86
    Strelci za Slovenijo: Ferme 5, Gorjanc, Sarajlija 4, Besedič 2, Radosavljevič 2, Nikolič Smrdelj 14, Sirnik 14, Golež 2, Glavaš 5, Murič 3, Buda 9, Gavrić 8.

    Slovenija : Turčija 73:81
    Strelci za Slovenijo: Ferme 12, Gorjanc, Perovšek 2, Sarajlija 5, Besedič, Radosavljevič 7, Nikolič Smrdelj 16, Sirnik 13, Golež, Glavaš 2, Murič 3, Buda 12.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    It's interesting how we allways look uncompetitive in those younger compretitions (U-16,U-17,U-18), but then at U-20 we are usualy quite succesfull. Our players obvioulsly make the biggest progress at the age 18 and 19.
    "Rudy Gay is a pretty good young player and yet he might be the only BB player that people feel very uncomfortable wearing his jersey."

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    Quote Originally Posted by boki
    It's interesting how we allways look uncompetitive in those younger compretitions (U-16,U-17,U-18), but then at U-20 we are usualy quite succesfull. Our players obvioulsly make the biggest progress at the age 18 and 19.
    I think main reason is rules that are used in domestic competitions for this age group...I talked to a friend who is part-time coach in one of our clubs and he said rules are total mess.

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    Default U18:

    Croatia - Slovenia 62-72
    Murič 37 +13 reb, Dragič 13 +11reb, Vranjkovič 10 +9reb; Šarlija 18+12 reb, Kruslin 12

    nice surprise. After staying at A division was set as a goal I must admit I lost all hopes for any win, since I lost the overview of younger cathegories a while ago. Now it seems, unless we get a triple tie in the group Slovenia achieved their goal at the first game on the tournament already... that's nice

    What's up with Muha? judging from the stats he had for Postojna I thought he'd managed a bit moer than 4 fouls in less than 10 minutes, nevermind Postojna was a horrible team.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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