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    this thread is needed, otherwise the one in euro-discussion forum, will get spammed with slovenian NT discussion constantly

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    Selekcija Primorske - Slovenija U20 74 : 86
    Slovenija: Perko 2, Preldžić 4, Krišto 10, Ja. Močnik 6, Klobučar 21, Mlakar 5, Horvat, K. Lorbek 2, Koštomaj 4, Krušič 6, Grušovnik 2, Brčina, Globovnik, Ptičak 3, Vidmar 19.

    don't really know how good was that selection, but the team just finished physical preparations, so the result is practically useless.

    I don't understand what is between Alilovič and Peter Marčič (Zaragoza, LEB), Peter deserves a place in U20 by opinion of everyone I've asked in the past weeks and yet while Alilovič called up Krišto, he forgot about Marčič again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Peter Marčič (188cm, 1988) is a point guard and on point guard I think there is a lot of competition going on with Perko, Močnik and Koštomaj fighting for the starting point guard.

    Second they will play with Quatar and Finland selections on Tuesday and Wednesday in Kranjska Gora (Slovenia) after this they are going to this tournament in Italy and then to FYROM also to some U20 friendly tournament.

    Quote Originally Posted by Domegge (Italy), 6th June 2007

    Datome, Hackett, Shved, Preldzic, Walker: the future stars of basketball will play the 8th “Meneghin – De Silvestro International Tournament for men u20” from 15 to 17 June in Domegge (Italy)
    Stanley International Betting is the new official partner of this event

    There will be a future stars parade at 8th “Meneghin – De Silvestro International Tournament for men under 20”, planned for next weekend in Domegge (Italy. The athletic italian forward Luigi Datome, the italo-american talented guard Daniel Hackett, the wonderful Russian trio Maxim Sheleketo - Alexey Shved - Artur Urazmanov, the Slovenian forward Emir Preldzic and Kansas State University freshman Bill Walker are some of the rising stars of the tournament.

    From 15 to 17 June 2007 the dolomitic city of Domegge (1 hour by car from Venice) will host this event with the participation of NT under 20 of Italy, Russia, Slovenia and the All America Team, a selection of the best High School and College Players.
    Great talents like Tony Parker (San Antonio Spurs, NBA), Pau Gasol (Memphis Grizzlies, NBA), Andrea Bargnani (Toronto Raptors, NBA), Ersan Ilyasova (Milwaukee Bucks, NBA), Mickael Pietrus (Golden State Warriors, NBA), Boris Diaw (Phoenix Suns, NBA), Ronny Turiaf (Los Angeles Lakers, NBA), Vassilis Spanoulis (Houston Rockets, NBA) Thabo Sefolosha (Chicago Bulls, NBA), Damir Markota (Milwaukee Bucks, NBA), Uros Slokar (Toronto Raptors, NBA), Fran Vazquez (FC Barcelona), Jiri Welsch (Unicaja Malaga), Lior Eliyahu (Maccabi Tel Aviv), Christian Drejer (Virtus Bologna), Damjan Rudez (KK Spalato), Erazem Lorbek (Lottomatica Roma), Mirza Begic (Slovan Lubiana), Goran Dragic (Murcia) have played the tournament in the past editions.

    It's one of the most interesting events in Europe before the NBA draft. Meanwhile another great company has decide to sponsor this event. Stanley International Betting is one of the leaders in the sports betting sector. It is the absolute first in Casino’s in the U. K. Historically Stanley is the international bookmaker for sports betting. It operates in seven European countries (Italy among these) with over 1000 centres all around the world.

    Here is the schedule (GMT +1) :

    JUNE 15
    6 p.m RUSSIA - SLOVENIA
    9 p.m ITALY – ALL AMERICA

    JUNE 16
    6 p.m ALL AMERICA- RUSSIA
    9 p.m ITALY – SLOVENIA

    JUNE 17
    6 p.m SLOVENIA – ALL AMERICA
    9 p.m ITALY - RUSSIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by elaj
    Peter Marčič (188cm, 1988) is a point guard and on point guard I think there is a lot of competition going on with Perko, Močnik and Koštomaj fighting for the starting point guard.
    I know... but Perko wasn't all that good with Triglav I personally doubt he'll make some good pro-career, Močnik is the same type, small&fast those kind of PG's are rather unussuall for slovenian bball (there are Močnik, Savič or Čmer and neither seems to be having much succes) and now we've got two of them on PG?- just a thought.
    Besides Koštomaj, Mlakar could step up for a few minutes on PG as well so I know PG spot is filled, but some people are higher on Marčič, than PG's Alilovič selected (with exception of Koštomaj).


    and in that article you can clearly see what hyping a player means everybody are talking about Preldžič and noone ever heard the name Vidmar
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    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    and in that article you can clearly see what hyping a player means everybody are talking about Preldžič and noone ever heard the name Vidmar
    So true... from what I have seen this year from both of them I can easily say Vidmar has clearly more tools to be successfull player in the future. I think he will be one of the most dominant players of EC U20 this year. I just hope he won't do any stupid mistakes as leaving Slovan for some Italian or Spanish team which will loan him or put him in the second team. In my opinion he should stay at least one more year in Slovan in order to play Adriatic League and develop consistency on such level. After that the next step should be an Euroleague team which can guareente him decent playing time.

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    lost the game vs. Qatar senior team

    Slovenia U20 - Qatar 86:93 (24:15, 21:23, 19:27, 22:28)

    Perko 4, Preldžić 17, Krišto 5, Močnik 5, Klobučar 19, Mlakar 19, Koštomaj, Krušič 1, Grušovnik 1, Brčina, Ptičak, Vidmar 15, Markič

    Vidmar fouled out in 25th minutes which enabled Qatar to get 11 offensive rebounds (Krušič!?! what was that ) after that. Alilovič said he is satisfied with the game vs. physical superior players and progress is seen compared to the first friendly game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Slovenia U20 - Finnland U20 101:67 (27:19, 19:22, 27:8, 28:18)

    Klobučar 24, Preldžić 20, Vidmar 11, Močnik 9, Mlakar 8, Koštomaj 7, Grušovnik 6, Brčina 6, Perko 3, Krišto 3, Krušič 2, Ptičak 2

    They're now traveling to Domegge di Cadore in Italy, where they'll face russian and italian U20, and some selection from US (judging from federation website)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Slovenia U20 : Russia U20 - 77:85

    Slovenia U20: Preldžić 5, Ja. Močnik 13, Klobučar 25, Mlakar 15, Koštomaj 2, Vidmar 17.

    It's still three weeks untill the EC, no need to panic. Slovenia U20 played without ill Klemen Lorbek and injured Dejan Čigoja. Emir Preldžić still isn't in normal shape after the injury.

    Today they are playing vs. USA selection, and on Sunday vs. Italy U20. After this tournament in Italy they will attend another one in FYROM where they will face FYROM U20, Bulgaria U20 and Montenegro U20 national teams.

    There is still more than enough time to prepare for the EC.

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    no needed for panic at all. afterall it's Russia U20 we're talking about.

    anyway eventhough there are only preparation games so far, I kind of expected some bigger contribution from the bench especially by guys like Koštomaj, Krušič... I really thought bench shouldn't be the problem this year, hopefully it won't end up that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Hey guys,

    Im coming this year to the u20 EC's and was wondering if anyone has any advice. It will be my first time ever in Europe and I am pretty excited about the event.

    How close are Nova Gorica and Goriza?

    Are they easily accesible?

    What are the details on getting tickets?

    Anything else would be highly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwfish6
    Hey guys,

    Im coming this year to the u20 EC's and was wondering if anyone has any advice. It will be my first time ever in Europe and I am pretty excited about the event.

    How close are Nova Gorica and Goriza?

    Are they easily accesible?

    What are the details on getting tickets?

    Anything else would be highly appreciated!
    First of all, you are probably somekind of related to some press, so I advice you to get the press accreditation here.

    Nova Gorica (Slovenia) is located nearby Gorizia (Italy), as you can see from this map.

    Some additional informations

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwfish6
    Hey guys,

    Im coming this year to the u20 EC's and was wondering if anyone has any advice. It will be my first time ever in Europe and I am pretty excited about the event.

    How close are Nova Gorica and Goriza?

    Are they easily accesible?
    both were almost as Berlin, seperated with the wall... wall is gone now, i don't know about the border patrol regime there, when I was there noone asked anything, but I think it could be handy to have the passport along all the time since you'll probably be crossing border all the time

    It used to be only Gorica untill the end of WW2, but than Gorizia was determined to stay italian without their natural background and slovenian communists decided to build a new city, eastern to the old one.

    What are the details on getting tickets?

    Anything else would be highly appreciated!
    my guess i that slovenian U20 game tickets won't be available (they're playing in some 1100 seated arena), while the games on italian side will take place in 5000 seated arena.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Thanks for the information. Is the Slovenian Federation pretty friendly about distributing the credentials?

    Do you say that Slovenian team will play all their games in the Slovenian gym and all other games will be played in the Italian gym, or will be games just be selected at random?

    How far are these 2 cities?

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    picture here
    they can't be far from each other since it's practically the same city, west being italian and east slovenian, pink line on the map is the border...

    Do you say that Slovenian team will play all their games in the Slovenian gym and all other games will be played in the Italian gym, or will be games just be selected at random?
    i'd expect the opposite, since slovenian federation is the organiser...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Italia : Slovenia 59:55 (24:19, 14:16, 8:8, 13:12)

    Preldžić 4, Krišto 5, Klobučar 14, Mlakar 12, Čigoja 2, Krušič 4, Vidmar 14.


    Čigoja played after few games and Alilovič was reportedly satisfied with him on PF. He whined a bit about the referees, said that the team looked a bit tired in the offense since the morning practices are supposedly hard-core compared to their competitors.

    It'll be interesting to see how this team will react to home court advantage at the championship. With all the talent, Preldžič and Čigoja (hopefully) getting in shape in time and some bench players as Koštomaj, Krišto, Krušič and Mlakar contributing this team could be one of the rare ones to actually chalenge Serbia for the gold (considering I doubt Turkey would come complete and some teams have some of their important 88' class players missing). It'll be the first time they'll face some expectations from the media here though...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Slovenia : US selection 92:75 (26:19, 29:13, 18:25, 19:18)

    Ptičak 3, Preldžić 8, Krišto 8, Močnik 13, Klobučar 9, Mlakar 14, Markič 2, Grušovnik 2, Čigoja 11, Brčina 2, Vidmar 20.

    Don't know what kind of US selection was that though.
    Alilovič will shorten the list to 14 players after the result of Koštomaj's medical exam.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    they can't be far from each other since it's practically the same city, west being italian and east slovenian, pink line on the map is the border...
    Hey, don't preach nonsense. Gorizia/Gorica and Nova Gorica is not a divided town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pija_Olimp
    Hey, don't preach nonsense. Gorizia/Gorica and Nova Gorica is not a divided town.
    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    both were almost as Berlin, seperated with the wall... wall is gone now, i don't know about the border patrol regime there, when I was there noone asked anything, but I think it could be handy to have the passport along all the time since you'll probably be crossing border all the time
    or you might find something arguable here (I don't)
    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    they can't be far from each other since it's practically the same city, west being italian and east slovenian, pink line on the map is the border...
    If you believe the pink line on the map isn't the border, please share it with us...


    anything else? maybee?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Matiz,
    I know you are young, but this is not an excuse for not knowing our history. Not that long ago... counting in human years, there was a documentary made by our national TV about the post WWII situation on our west front, sorry, YU-Italian border. The border in that microlocation of Gorizia/Gorica was drawn in 1974 and yes, Italians got almost the whole town. The only part of the town which they didn't get was the train station which you can still find on the map you linked... that was a Transalpina train station built by Austrians aboutish a hundred years ago. Yugoslavia got only a few suburbian villages like Solkan and Šempeter. What I want to tell you is this: the town which we call Nova Gorica didn't exist in that time. There was only a swamp with the Gorizia's Jewish cementary there. Empty worthless land.
    Thanks to our Slovene prominent or "prominent" if you prefer, post war politicians a new town started to grow in 1949. Partly because the huge area of the western Slovenia stayed without its regional administrative center (area from Bovec, from Idrija, from Podnanos to Kras), partly to show Italians that we can do it and we can do it better than they. The town was built by "Mladinske delovne brigade", if this means anything to you.
    So Nova Gorica was built like Brasilia was or this new capital of Myanmar.

    This is the reason why I state these are two separate towns and not one divided town.

    I'm sorry to go off topic, but somebody here needed a lesson from history.

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    okay, didn't know where exactly you're getting from. Divided isn't the appropriate term here, true. The town indeed wasn't divided, but Nova Gorica was created post WW2 just as you said.

    But I guess I would surprise you with my knowledge of history, especially when it comes to WW1 and WW2 in Slovenia... but I'll leave that for some other occasion
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    I like to hear this. This knowledge is rare among our people these days, I'm afraid. ;-)

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