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    The teams looks very good no doubt. I'm just apprehensive regarding the future, I mean, will Montenegro have the capacity to keep developing quality players without the support of Serbia? I'm just asking, I really don't know much about the "inside" things in Montenegro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    The teams looks very good no doubt. I'm just apprehensive regarding the future, I mean, will Montenegro have the capacity to keep developing quality players without the support of Serbia? I'm just asking, I really don't know much about the "inside" things in Montenegro.
    don't know what you mean support?

    As far as i know their players don't play in serbian clubs as foregions. Also i doubt that "circulation" of players betwen this two countries will stop. Also in last few years as sitation started to normalize there wre some individual cases of circulation of athlets and coaches from Serbia and Montenegro to Croatia like Slobodan Subotic who coached Split and now Cedevita and is well acepted in Croatia. While Buducnost who are known as great talent producers have protected status in adriatic league so their young players have guaranted quality games to develep and also Montenegro have a lot of tall people. So I thik that their young players will have anuff quality conditions to develop. I think that now when they are independet they have better chance to become even stronger because some of good plyers wern't good to be in SiCG U teams now have chance to promote them sefs as talents to lot of scouts. Similary like Slovenia impruved since they become independet

    btw.
    if somebody could tell me who are top Montenegro coaches. I realy don't know who is Serbian and who is Montenegrian for sample Fat(Vujosevic)??? is he Montenegrian or Serbian
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    Support in a sporting sense, since Serbia is a bigger country with better sport conditions I suppose.
    Thanks for the explanation pohani.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    btw.
    if somebody could tell me who are top Montenegro coaches. I realy don't know who is Serbian and who is Montenegrian for sample Fat(Vujosevic)??? is he Montenegrian or Serbian
    Well, Vujošević is Serbian from Montenegro, like many others...
    As for coaches from Mn, list is, as I know: Duško Ivanović, Boša Tanjević, Piksi Subotić, D. Vujošević, Dejan Radonjić, Luka Pavićević... If I missed somebody I'm sorry.
    And they are all born in Montenegro, but I don't know how do they feel about their nationality. I know that Luka is considered Serbian, so as Vujošević, but that's the general problem because people in Mn are divided about nationality, and being Serb or Montenegrin is a political thing nowadays. But to me, they are all the same.

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    Default How good is Montenegros NT?

    So, Sweden will go up against Montenegro in one of the div B semifinals and Swedens HC Kostas Flevarakis just went on the record as saying that Montenegro is one of the eight best NTs in Europe at the moment.

    Got me thinking, is it possible that its true?

    What NTs are definitely better and which one that has qualified for Poland are doubtfully so?

    I personally dont know if I can say that Germany (without Nowitzky) and Russia are better. Neither am I sure Bulgaria, Israel, Poland, GB or Latvia would win in a two game series.
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    Honestly?
    I think they are really good but it is hard to make a good comparison without watching them playing against Europe's best
    if they would be in Poland they would definitely be fighting for a place in Turkey..
    but I don't think they would be a medal contender yet..
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    MONTENEGRO will be for sure in the 1st division of Eurobasket! As in water polo,they startd from the below divisions and they conquered the eurochampion,as now I hope that they will be with us all next years...

    Try to believe,that by the Ex-Yugoslavia,there will be 6 NT in the European top.


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    If they would be in Poland they would probably be fighting for a 1/4 final, or even 1/2 final

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    Now you are getting ahead of yourself. Beating Iceland is not same as beating nations in A division.They have nice front court but they back court except black Montenegrin really suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srle View Post
    Now you are getting ahead of yourself. Beating Iceland is not same as beating nations in A division.They have nice front court but they back court except black Montenegrin really suck.
    well he fits there perfectly since crna gora (montenegro) literly translated means black mountain

    anway i agree with you. for now i'm sure they are top 15 in europ, but top 8 or for semifanal are bit overeating and it's to hard to make some coparisons without seeing them against divison A teams. for future i belive they have even more potential then their curent strenght (Pekovic-Mirotic-Dasic could be scarry trio) but i doubt since they have very small base they will never have a nuff debth to become force like in water polo sice basketball is playd all over the world while waterpolo for now is played at high level in few countries (at least for now), but i belive they could be capeble to "steal" medal from time to time

    QUOTE=bhoy_Athens;323085]MONTENEGRO will be for sure in the 1st division of Eurobasket! As in water polo,they startd from the below divisions and they conquered the eurochampion,as now I hope that they will be with us all next years...

    Try to believe,that by the Ex-Yugoslavia,there will be 6 NT in the European top.

    QUOTE]

    it is posible but unfortunaly i see free fall of macedonian team in next few years because i don't see to much talent there for now while bosnia and hercegovina would be medal candidat right now with B&H croats and serbs who for now usualy picks their ethnic country while slovenia natrulize lot of "bosnian" bosnians and lot of players like teletovic, mrsic...don't want to play in nt because poor conditions, courupted federation and idiotic coach. as for kosovo i doub't they will ever be in first divison but we will see
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    Eurobasket 2011 will be much better with Montenegro in it. Congratulations.

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    I don't often say this, but this is an excellent article on Montenegro NT
    (written by Alejandro Gonzales of BasketMe.com )

    The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia had something really special when it came to playing team sports. Handball, volleyball, football, waterpolo and, of course, basketball. Its legacy continues with the bunch of countries (Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and FYROM) that became independent from the breakup in 1991. The last one, the rising star, is the three-year old Republic of Montenegro.

    Montenegro, Venetian name for “Black Mountain” and Crna Gora in Serbian, is a 700.000 population country located on the coast of Adriatic Sea. On May 21st, 2006, its citizens claimed independence from Serbia with 55.5% of votes in a referendum. On June 3, Montenegro was officially an independent republic. Coming from a difficult economical background, the country is trying to grow up through the tourism business and services industry. Meanwhile politics and economics are growing up slowly, sports are progressing very fast.

    In 2006 World Championship, Montenegro had to play still joined to Serbia (as Serbia-Montenegro) as they qualified to the tournament as a unified country. The loss against Spain in the final 16 was the last game of an era and the official beginning of a meteoric rise of a new European basketball team. FIBA Europe placed Montenegro in Division B, due to the very low level of Division C (including teams like Andorra, Malta, Gibraltar or San Marino) which would have been simply a waste of time for a team with such a good basis. Waiting for its moment, the summer of 2008 when the Division B tournament started, as the way to promote to Division A, the basketball federation, led by Veselin Barovic (from the Democratic Party of Socialists of Montenegro, now in the government) started to work in order to build a solid team. First, they needed a good head coach, somebody able to face the challenge and experienced in development issues. No one better than Dusko Vujosevic, born in Montenegro, the Partizan Belgrade head coach (Euroleague coach of the year last season), hired in 2007.

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    Montenegro has probably the most talented players per capita in the world, respect to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikhardur View Post
    The teams looks very good no doubt. I'm just apprehensive regarding the future, I mean, will Montenegro have the capacity to keep developing quality players without the support of Serbia? I'm just asking, I really don't know much about the "inside" things in Montenegro.
    Yes, because before the split of the country (Serbia-Montenegro), the country was divised in 11 basketball regions (8 in Serbia and 3 in Montenegro). In each region, best players were scouted and called to training camps. So, Montenegro have the tradition to evaluate the players and the coaches to make them progress. The average height of montenegrin people is also a good point for them. On the contrary, local championship is very weak. Actually, it's an advantage, because very young player have a lot of playing time. But in the years to come, most of these players won't improve as expected (mostly due to lack of competition) and younger players won't receive playing as the previous generation. Each year, less and less montenegrin players are joining teams from other former yougoslavian republics. Instead, the most talented kids are leaving the country to Spain (Nikola Mirotic, Marko Todorovic, Nikola Rakocevic) or the USA. For instance, Nikola Vucevic is playing very well in NCAA, while Nemanja Djurisic and Gavrilo Pajovic, both U16 NT members 2008, are now playing in US high-schools.

    This exodus could benefit the montenegrin NT in the year to come, only if players still agree to play for Montenegro. But, we are witnesses that Mirotic didn't play for Montenegro yet and that he is willing to play for Spain now. (Last summer, he told on montenegrin TV that he will play for Montenegro, but in November, he told to spanish journalists that he will play for Spain ).

    I also have to add, that Montenegro manage to obtain some players from neighbour countries. I'm not writing about montenegrins born in Serbia such as Vladimir Golubovic (1986) or Nedjeljko Bogdanovic (1990). When the country split, each player (serb or montenegrin) was allowed to choose for which country he will play, no matter of his birth place or origins. But I'm writing about bosnian serbs who rather play for Montenegro than for Bosnia such as Nemanja Vranjes (1988) and Boris Savovic (1987).

    The last but not the least, they naturalize a great playmaker Omar Cook in order to mask weak point in their team.

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    Montenegro Ready For The Challenge

    If the movers and shakers in Montenegrin basketball know anything heading into their qualifying campaign for EuroBasket 2011 this summer, it's this.

    They will not beat opponents by an average margin of 22.6 points per game as they did in EuroBasket Division B.

    After Saturday's Division A draw in Munich, the Montenegrins will be happy just to win games.

    The will go up against Latvia, Israel, Finland and Italy in Group A.

    "Our group has the most quality, there's no doubt at all," said Danilo Mitrovic, the sports director of the Montenegro national teams.

    "It wasn't like I was hoping for, but that's what we've got."

    Still, Mitrovic does like his team's chances of making it to the EuroBasket for the first time and for good reason.

    Nikola Pekovic is the team's leading player, the starting center for European heavyweights Panathinaikos.

    Vlado Scepanovic is the team captain and he is a link to past success, having played for Yugoslavia's gold-medal winning team at the 1998 FIBA World Championship in Athens.

    Vladimir Dasic is a 21-year-old forward who tasted success with the Montenegrin youth teams and is now honing his craft under the watchful eye of Ettore Messina at Real Madrid.

    There is a lot more talent to draw from for Montenegro, and it's all in good hands with Partizan Belgrade coach Dusko Vujosevic also serving as the boss of Montenegrin national team.

    "We know our qualities," Mitrovic said, "and at the draw, I saw some signs of relief at some other national federations who weren't drawn with us in the same group."

    Mitrovic, in fact, despite the presence of so many strong teams, was bold enough to say: "Still, I think we are favorites in our group. I'm sure we'll qualify for the EuroBasket, and even our coach (Dusko) Vujosevic said in our (telephone) chat immediately after the draw that the 'group isn't easy at all', even he's an optimist, too."
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    Question Strahinja Milosevic to play for Montenegro

    According to the montenegrin newspaper Vijesti, Danilo Mitrovic (a montenegrin basketball federation official) and Partizan Belgrade head coach Dusko Vujosevic are trying to convince Strahinja Milosevic (203, 1985, Partizan Belgrade) to play for Montenegro.

    http://www.vijesti.me/index.php?id=336743

    Milosevic has already played twice for serbian university NT, but the serbian federation will certainly allow him to change his basketball nationality as it was done previously for Ratko Varda and many others. Montenegrins can also expect the help of the boss of serbian federation, Dragan Kapicic who is from montenegrin descent.

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    Default Montenegro add another US player to his NT.

    The top scorer of the turkish championship, Qunicy Douby (191, 1984, Darussafaka TUR) received montenegrin citizenship and will took part to qualifications for EC 2011.

    Danilo Mitrovic, the sports director of the Montenegro national teams told that Vujosevic will choose the naturalized player (Cook or Douby) according to the opponent. But also, that Omar Cook remain the main naturalized player.

    He also denied rumours about Strahinja Milosevic.

    http://www.sportal.rs/news.php?id=27406

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    Montenegro preliminary squad: John Koljević, Omar Cook, Goran Jeretin, Vlado Scepanovic (captain), John Maras, Predrag Drobnjak, Nikola Pekovic, Slavko Vranes, Vladimir Golubovic Vladimir Dragicevic, Vladimir Dašić, Milko Bjelica, Suad Šehović, Sead Šehović, Miloš Borisov, Nikola Vučević and Quincy Douby

    http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_z6N0F...frontpage.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    Montenegro preliminary squad: Ivan Koljević, Omar Cook, Goran Jeretin, Vlado Šćepanović (captain), Ivan Maraš, Predrag Drobnjak, Nikola Peković, Slavko Vraneš, Vladimir Golubović, Vladimir Dragičević, Vladimir Dašić, Milko Bjelica, Suad Šehović, Sead Šehović, Miloš Borisov, Nikola Vučević and Quincy Douby.
    Nice frontcourt, but where is Žarko Rakočević? He must have stepped on Dule's nerve or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunOverHStreet View Post
    Nice frontcourt, but where is Žarko Rakočević? He must have stepped on Dule's nerve or something...

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    I couldn't stand that John thingy, so I changed a little...
    i didn't even noticed...it must be somthing. cuted from partizan, now not in nt
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