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Thread: Sasha Vujacic sucks...

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    Default Sasha Vujacic sucks...

    Well, the guy is not a ballhandler like any good PG in NBA. His shooting style is weird and he is not an outstanding shooter either. Plus, he is way too skinny and he just doesn't stand 6-7 on the court. I believe Planinic and Papaloukas are both way better than this guy and somehow Vujacic is the player in NBA.(not to mention Planinic-Papaloukas have both superior ballhandling skills compared to Pavlovic).
    He is 23 years old, this is his 3rd year in NBA and he still makes stupid decisions and mistakes on the court. He still plays like a rookie. And the guy still looks like a 20 year old kid.(his appearance and face)
    Even if he comes to Europe, I don't think he can play in big teams like CSKA, TAU, PAO... He can be a SG maybe on an average team. Now my question:

    What the hell he is doing in NBA?

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    of course he does.
    but you haven't seen him playing much, you got no articulated reasons behind it others than you "believe" Planinić and Papa are both much better, while he is the one in nba (how unjust... ... well not really, thank god they're playing in Europe...) and you clearly are talking about a player you've got no idea about, hopefully he'll finally play at this europen championship to give you an idea about his actual game... I think you wouldn't exactly feel comfortable if I start bashing Ilyasova right away on the same principle...
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    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    He had 8 points and 8 rebounds today...he is not all that bad as a shooting specialist of the bench; through he will never live up to the expectations of a first round pick:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    of course he does.
    but you haven't seen him playing much, you got no articulated reasons behind it others than you "believe" Planinić and Papa are both much better, while he is the one in nba (how unjust... ... well not really, thank god they're playing in Europe...) and you clearly are talking about a player you've got no idea about, hopefully he'll finally play at this europen championship to give you an idea about his actual game... I think you wouldn't exactly feel comfortable if I start bashing Ilyasova right away on the same principle...
    I've got idea about him. I've been watching Lakers games, that's why I started this thread.
    I don't think Ilyasova is anywhere comparable to Vujacic. Ersan has been the one of the top 3 players in his generation in Europe since junior tournaments. Vujacic was that kind of player though...

    Any ideas on Vujacic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    Ersan has been the one of the top 3 players in his generation in Europe since junior tournaments.
    Which generation? '83 or '86?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashikas
    Which generation? '83 or '86?
    As i know he is born in 84, but listed as 87. As it Luis Fernandez from draftexpress said after the EC of U20 last year. A men under boys.

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    Ersan is 2 years bigger than his age. He was born in 85 and listed as 87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buducnost PG
    As i know he is born in 84, but listed as 87. As it Luis Fernandez from draftexpress said after the EC of U20 last year. A men under boys.
    Please don't write something if you don't know for sure. Give me a very reliable source which proves he is 1984 born. What you are doing is bashing him. He is a 87 born player and one of the best in Europe, unlike Vujacic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turkishpower
    Please don't write something if you don't know for sure. Give me a very reliable source which proves he is 1984 born. What you are doing is bashing him. He is a 87 born player and one of the best in Europe, unlike Vujacic.
    So one of the best Scouts in Europe Luis Fernandez is not a reliable source. And were is Arsen Ilyasov from Uzbekistan now? A kid which was on the rader of some scouts then got a new name, a new age and a new birthplace. But be happy with the foreigner in your team. He is not the first and i am sure he will not be the last.

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    Vujačič was easly one of the best euro SG's born in 84' at 19 years old a decent SG in Lega Uno (at that time that was something). As for NBA he will never make it (eventhough he might end up playing a decade in it) because he doesn't have what it takes on the physical part, but he damn sure knows how to play basketball. Not being able to show it in NBA surely doesn't make him the first european to find himself in such situation.

    might just happen we'll end up comparing your beloved Vujačič with your beloved Ilyasova in the 84' rankings

    reliable source? do I have to steal his toothbrush for a DNA testing? there is no reliable source about Markoishvilli either, but it's widely known he isn't born in 86' but preferably in 84. and as far as I know thse assumptions go way before Ilyasova was even drafted- anyone actually wondered why he fell so far in the 2nd round? eventhough NBA GM's are sometimes hard to understood at what they do, they're sure no idiots...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matiz
    ...and as far as I know thse assumptions go way before Ilyasova was even drafted- anyone actually wondered why he fell so far in the 2nd round? eventhough NBA GM's are sometimes hard to understood at what they do, they're sure no idiots...
    It was because of Ilyasova's serious injury. He might never have recovered fully, and that's why he had dropped so late in the draft. He's a very solid player for a 84-born, too.

    Why do you compare Vujacic and Ilyasova?

    It's been a time since I last watched Vujacic, and I think he was doing well in his limited role.
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    I also cant understand why Vujacic is in the nba, and on a big club like the Lakers. He cant do much on the court, he cant even shoot all that well. I dont even think he'd do that well in Europe. This is just another example of why the nba shouldnt take guys strictly on potential. Players should have to prove themselves in college or in Europe before they get into the league. Darko is another example of this. How sick would detroit have been for the past few years if they took Carmelo with that 2nd pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyguy
    I also cant understand why Vujacic is in the nba, and on a big club like the Lakers. He cant do much on the court, he cant even shoot all that well. I dont even think he'd do that well in Europe. This is just another example of why the nba shouldnt take guys strictly on potential. Players should have to prove themselves in college or in Europe before they get into the league. Darko is another example of this. How sick would detroit have been for the past few years if they took Carmelo with that 2nd pick.
    How could Carmelo Anthoney play on the Pistons, as what a six man? I don't think that would have worked. He jacks up way too many shots and plays no d and doesn't pass they would have choked him like Latrell on PJ.

    Not that he's a bad player but he wouldn't fit well on the Pistons, so far he is a stats guy. How would the Bucks look with Nowitzki or the bulls with Bruce Bowen, Tyson Chandler, Elton Brand, Ron Artest and Brad Miller? Is this the fantasy league?

    Sasa does kinda suck pretty bad, the lakers really suck so thats why he is in the NBA how many teams would Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook or any of the 9 other stiffs on that team get minutes with?

    Without Kobe and Lamar Odom that team would have a hard time beating a good college team.

    Sasa sucks but he plays a role on that team. He may help you with a nice pass or a couple of buckets or a rebound. Or he make miss 6 shots and turn the ball over.

    As far as the Turkish player goes ( I live in Milwaukee) he may turn out to be good. That team sucks soo bad its hard to tell, Mo Williams is another stat guy (Hello Mike James). So you play good and your team loses by 30 or your team loses by 5 and you suck in the game. What can you really take from that?

    It's kinda funny though the dude smacks Sasa and then you throw the Turk under the bus for being born in 1985...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buducnost PG
    So one of the best Scouts in Europe Luis Fernandez is not a reliable source. And were is Arsen Ilyasov from Uzbekistan now? A kid which was on the rader of some scouts then got a new name, a new age and a new birthplace. But be happy with the foreigner in your team. He is not the first and i am sure he will not be the last.
    Borat was right those a-holes uzbeks don't even know how old they are.

    wa wa we wa!

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    Sasha is actually a terrific defensive PG, and that alone could keep him in the league for a while, even as just a 2nd or 3rd PG off the bench. And he's a pretty good 3-point shooter....3rd best on the Lakers right now at 38%. His skills are the exact type you want from a PG to pair with a ball-dominating 2-guard like Kobe or McGrady, or Carter or AI etc.....he's efficient with the offensive oppurtunities he's given and he's an excellent defender.

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    He used to date Maria Sharapova and that is my beef with him.

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    he should be cut

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    I think he's a decent enough backup player.

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