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Thread: Serbia versus Spain - Who has been best NT in 2013-2016?

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    Spain finished 3th at 2013 European Championship, defeating Serbia 90-60 in quaterfinals.

    Serbia won silver medal at 2014 World Championship in Spain, with the surprising defeat of Spain in quaterfinals against France.

    Spain won gold medal at 2015 European Championship, being Serbia the 4th team.

    Serbia wins silver medal and Spain bronze medal at 2016 Olympics Championship. But they have not faced.

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    Do you think Serbia has been better team than Spain in 2013-2016? Or just the circumstances?
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    I feel Serbia got the best results, but I feel Spain was the better team. Spain I feel underachieved, first with the upset loss to France in 2014 and then the slow start to this Olympics which put them in the US bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    I feel Serbia got the best results, but I feel Spain was the better team. Spain I feel underachieved, first with the upset loss to France in 2014 and then the slow start to this Olympics which put them in the US bracket.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    I feel Serbia got the best results, but I feel Spain was the better team. Spain I feel underachieved, first with the upset loss to France in 2014 and then the slow start to this Olympics which put them in the US bracket.
    Yea, they were definitely better in 2013 and 14, but I'm not sure about 15 and 16, I feel they came down to a very similar level, so generally between 2013 and 2016 Spain was better.
    I really wish they could introduce playoffs in these tournaments, and do something about brackets so teams can't tank games, this way we get some great injustices.

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    In that age? Spain = Serbia for me. Same level teams.

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    Serbia on its way up met Spain on its way down.

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    Spain has the nba players and nba hall of famers stronger domestic league, prime players all factors leaning on them but somehow serbia got its share in the biggest stage..but adds motivation for serbia to comoete in wurobasket tgey still nees to beat plspain and lithuania to prove they are the man in europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Chacho View Post
    In that age? Spain = Serbia for me. Same level teams.
    Where are your eyes?

    Last three games:

    Serbia 60 Spain 90 (without Pau, Navarro and Reyes)

    Serbia 73 Spain 89

    Serbia 80 Spain 70 (without Marc, Rubio, Navarro and Calderon).


    Serbia

    Silver WC 14 and Silver OG

    Spain

    Bronze Eurobasket, Gold Eurobasket and Bronze OG.


    But the Olympic final had to be USA vs Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno Díaz es Batman View Post
    Where are your eyes?

    Last three games:

    Serbia 60 Spain 90 (without Pau, Navarro and Reyes)

    Serbia 73 Spain 89

    Serbia 80 Spain 70 (without Marc, Rubio, Navarro and Calderon).


    Serbia

    Silver WC 14 and Silver OG

    Spain

    Bronze Eurobasket, Gold Eurobasket and Bronze OG.


    But the Olympic final had to be USA vs Spain.
    I don't change my mind. In 2014 Serbia didn't play with all at the group stage, in 2013 Serbia was doing an amazing tournament but they had a really bad day vs us. Last year they were stronger, and this year we were equals.

    We could be a bit above, but no too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno Díaz es Batman View Post
    Where are your eyes?

    Last three games:

    Serbia 60 Spain 90 (without Pau, Navarro and Reyes)

    Serbia 73 Spain 89 Group Phase WC 2014

    Serbia 80 Spain 70 (without Marc, Rubio, Navarro and Calderon).
    Group Phase EC 2015
    OMG, I forgot that two games.

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    In my opinion, Spain has been more powerful NT than Serbia in 2013-2016, but great respect for Serbia (especially Djordevic and Teodosic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Serbia on its way up met Spain on its way down.
    This essentially sums it up. Spain is (naturally) on a decline, while Serbia is rising. In all honesty, one cannot expect for this Serbia to be as good as Spain was (our 96-02 team was), but Serbia will have better results than Spain in following period. As for '13-'16, blow-outs in finals against Americans leave a shadow over Serbia's results, but I'm confident that Ser-Esp, if met in that period would have been a great and close matches that could have gone either way.

    Edit - when I said met, I mean met in knockout.

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    Lithuania is in this conversation too.

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    2013-2016 best international teams was:

    Spain bronze,1/4,gold, bronze =3medals
    France gold,bronze,bronze, 1/4 =3medals
    Serbia 1/4,silver,4th,silver =2medals
    Lithuania silver, 4th, silver,1/4= 2medals

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    Well a medal whose color is gold is the only way Serbs can prove that they are for real that run in World Cup (except in 94 when they are suspended), and eurobasket titles left and right prove their dominance with USA.
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    Serbia was an underdog and has been considered an outsider by many in recent tournaments. Spain was expected to win the gold no matter what. This changes everything in basketball. In 2015 when Serbia was seen as the 3d favorite to win the tournament, they choked against Lithuania (who won because they were the underdogs).

    During the last three years, Spain was number #1 in Europe talent wise, while Serbia was something like #4-5. They relied on team chemistry to win medals.

    Medals aside and all things considered, during the last three years, the best teams in Europe were Spain, France, Serbia. In that order.

    Also, some people are mentioning that Spain is in decline. Perhaps they are. They are declining from being the best team in Europe to one of the best teams in Europe. Even without Pau, Navarro, Reyes, Spain still has more skilled players around than Serbia.
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    2013-2016

    Spain have bigger talent in the team, Serbia better motivation and team play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naumoski View Post
    OMG, I forgot that two games.

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    In my opinion, Spain has been more powerful NT than Serbia in 2013-2016, but great respect for Serbia (especially Djordevic and Teodosic).
    Djordjevic is a great coach and he has done a great job with an average roster.

    But in the end the answer is easy

    Can anyone imagine Serbia winning by 20 to Spain?

    Can anyone imagine Spain winning by 20 to Serbia?

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    Spain traditionally starts slowly at the tournaments, then starts playing amazing basketball and converting to the best European team by far. Nothing changed again in this Olympics but This time they paid the price of the slow start. This Spain would easily win EC. Serbia is probably second best team with Lithuania based on the results. As talentwise, France is the 2nd, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno Díaz es Batman View Post
    Djordjevic is a great coach and he has done a great job with an average roster.

    But in the end the answer is easy

    Can anyone imagine Serbia winning by 20 to Spain?

    Can anyone imagine Spain winning by 20 to Serbia?
    Can anyone imagine Spain being blown out by the US?
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