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    Default QF: Croatia Vs Serbia

    I'll go with Croatia with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    I'll go with Croatia with this one.
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    Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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    I will root for serbia. and i think they will have this one in d bag.

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    Serbia strike me as a really dangerous team, same with the Croatians, these 2 countries have a lot of history. As a nutral I'm just really looking forward to this Friey clash, I wonder if the Serbian kids learnt anything from the pyscal beat up the Aussie gave them a few days ago. I think Serbia will get this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Serbia strike me as a really dangerous team, same with the Croatians, these 2 countries have a lot of history. As a nutral I'm just really looking forward to this Friey clash, I wonder if the Serbian kids learnt anything from the pyscal beat up the Aussie gave them a few days ago. I think Serbia will get this one.
    Serbians ain't kids mate, all of them players in their prime. We use to be youngest in average of all teams until recent, but we've come of age now.��

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    Quote Originally Posted by judasmartel View Post
    Two Yugoslavian teams in the quarterfinals. #OnceBrothers
    Great doc! Also... Highly recommend "The Other Dream Team"

    This should be a great matchup. These two teams could be the future of European basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vuxsa View Post
    Serbians ain't kids mate, all of them players in their prime. We use to be youngest in average of all teams until recent, but we've come of age now.��
    My apologies mate, I'm no expert on the Serbs, just watched them against Australia, I thought you had a few guys just starting off in the Nba, and it looked like the Aussies got the better of them mentally.

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    I see 50% Serbia & 50 Croazia. It's a coin flip.
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    The experience is a plus.

    W for Serbia.

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    Who could have seen this one coming, Croatia - an underdog in the OQT, now here they are at the top of the group of death, beating Spain and Lithuania, unreal. Gotta say I've been rooting for them since the OQT and am happy that our long lost bros have finally managed to make all that talent work as a team with a heart.
    Gonna be a great summer for them, regardless how this game goes. I'm a bit worried about it, seeing them on a roll and knowing they always give 120% against us, but our team is also looking good right now and Croatians still haven't broken the 21 year old curse, so this is perhaps the best match-up we could have gotten. Although, considering the current state of Lithuania, maybe they would have been better. Its gonna be a really tough game for them with Aussies.

    Btw our team are not kids but they are also far from being all in prime. Teodosic and Raduljica are, as two most important players atm, but Jokic is a kid, and Bogdanovic, Kalinic, Nedovic, Jovic are all far from their prime. This team definitely has a great future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SashKX View Post
    Who could have seen this one coming, Croatia - an underdog in the OQT, now here they are at the top of the group of death, beating Spain and Lithuania, unreal. Gotta say I've been rooting for them since the OQT and am happy that our long lost bros have finally managed to make all that talent work as a team with a heart.
    Gonna be a great summer for them, regardless how this game goes. I'm a bit worried about it, seeing them on a roll and knowing they always give 120% against us, but our team is also looking good right now and Croatians still haven't broken the 21 year old curse, so this is perhaps the best match-up we could have gotten. Although, considering the current state of Lithuania, maybe they would have been better. Its gonna be a really tough game for them with Aussies.

    Btw our team are not kids but they are also far from being all in prime. Teodosic and Raduljica are, as two most important players atm, but Jokic is a kid, and Bogdanovic, Kalinic, Nedovic, Jovic are all far from their prime. This team definitely has a great future.
    Actually I saw Croatia and Serbia as the two best European teams in the tournament along with France. In the case of both teams, it comes down to how Bogdanovic plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHBB View Post
    Actually I saw Croatia and Serbia as the two best European teams in the tournament along with France. In the case of both teams, it comes down to how Bogdanovic plays.
    Playing vs Bilan and Planinic, there is no way we will focus on Bogdanovic as a center of our gameplan. The ball is going inside to establish the presence.

    Defensively we are going to focus on stopping Saric, he will be the key guy for them. We are weakest at PF and they are going to use him to attack us, like they did to Jankunas, Kuzminskas and Sabonis. He plays faceup like a guard, so they will focus on that.

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    IMO Croatia is better option than Ltu for us. Only real problem can be Saric because of Bjelica injury and maybe Bojan.

    We have huge advantage on PG and escpecially C.

    I am afraid of one thing. We have always been better than Croatia, one game we must lose finally. I hope that it won't be this one.

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    Is it normal that two euro countries must play on 3:15h at the morning ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SashKX View Post

    Btw our team are not kids but they are also far from being all in prime. Teodosic and Raduljica are, as two most important players atm, but Jokic is a kid, and Bogdanovic, Kalinic, Nedovic, Jovic are all far from their prime. This team definitely has a great future.
    They are good, but given that they are close to their prime, they are not that strong. It is a medal candidate team, yet not as dominant such as the old Serbia teams so as to assure gold medals.

    Same is true for Croatia, although I think the Croats are less likely to be dominant on the long term. They are just in great shape this summer. No one knows where they are going to end. But a win over Serbia at this stage will revive the sport in Croatia big time.
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    Really interesting game. I would give a slight edge, maybe 55-45, to Serbia due to superior depth and more experience in games like this. On the other end Croatia is in better shape, already beating teams like Spain, Italy, Greece, Lithuania and Brazil, while Serbia is still searching for thier high-profile victory this summer.

    As i see it, Serbia has the problem with Bojan/Saric combo defensively. Bogdanovic struggled against Lithuania when matched up against a guy of his size/strenght in Maciulis. Serbia has no that type of player. Bogdan is not as big and strong as Bojan, and if you put Kalinic on Bogdanovic, who could bother him with his tenacity and lenght, then there is noone to defend Saric since Bircevic and Macvan are not up to the par defensively. I guess you just hope that Saric has one of those games when he is missing jumpers left and right, and adjust accordingly.

    Croatia on the other hand has big problem with Jokic-Raduljica duo. That could really decide the game. Bilan has been the most disappointing member of the Croatian national team, and he has struggled mightly in a friendly game against Raduljica prior to the tournament. Planinic is better defensively, but he is also not quite as big as either of serbian centers.

    Two jokers are ofcourse Teodosic and Simon. Both are extremely important to thier teams with thier ability to run pick and roll and get the ball movement going. Croatia is going to try to stop Milos with two solid defenders with lenght in Ukic and Babic, while Serbia is equipeed to tire Simon out with thier assortment of speedy guard defenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victorious View Post
    They are good, but given that they are close to their prime, they are not that strong. It is a medal candidate team, yet not as dominant such as the old Serbia teams so as to assure gold medals.
    Add Boban and Bjelica and you can bet they would be dominant. We're playing with guys like Stimac and Bircevic here, so I'd say we're doing better than expected considering. If we had those two guys, I'd argue that team would be stronger than any we had in the past, seeing how game has developed, and whatever gap we had with USA has gotten smaller. Boban alone would make a massive difference for us at this tournament, especially against USA. Yes they miss a lot of folks too, but they wouldn't make a difference that Boban makes compared to Stimac, or Bjelica to Bircevic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SashKX View Post
    Add Boban and Bjelica and you can bet they would be dominant. We're playing with guys like Stimac and Bircevic here, so I'd say we're doing better than expected considering. If we had those two guys, I'd argue that team would be stronger than any we had in the past, seeing how game has developed, and whatever gap we had with USA has gotten smaller. Boban alone would make a massive difference for us at this tournament, especially against USA. Yes they miss a lot of folks too, but they wouldn't make a difference that Boban makes compared to Stimac, or Bjelica to Bircevic.
    I would take Jokic and Raduljica over Boban any day of the week and twice on sunday. Bjelica is missing big time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obina View Post
    IMO Croatia is better option than Ltu for us. Only real problem can be Saric because of Bjelica injury and maybe Bojan.

    We have huge advantage on PG and escpecially C.
    not having Teodosić type of PG in this case could actually work in our favour.
    like it did against Lithuania and Brasil.
    against Lithuania yesterday and against Brasil before that we played almost half of the game without the real point guard in the game.
    Babić, Simon, Bogdanović, Šarić, Planinić/Bilan.
    Simon and Šarić can create, first is averaging more then 4 assists per game, Šarić more then 3.
    Babić played at point in Cedevita and he is successfully doing it here as well, bringing the ball over and with his quickness punishing slow defences before they set.
    he has been really good for us.
    and the entire team has been really good at playing like that, without a proper PG in the lineup.
    it will definitely be a great game but then again, all four quarterfinals should be.

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    Same is true for Croatia, although I think the Croats are less likely to be dominant on the long term. .
    I do hope you are wrong as I don't see many teams having the prospects like we do.
    and they are on a good way from being prospects to becoming great players.
    if they put a lot of effort and work.
    Ante Toni Žižić was already last year one of the best centers in ABA league.
    Ivica Zubac in the Lakers should already in his first season see a lot of minutes on the floor.
    Hezonja will mature even more in the years to come.
    Bogdanović in his prime years and with 6-7 years more to come, Šarić is here for the next 10-12 years hopefully.
    we are like always thin at PG but there are some interesting players who could possibly be good team players.
    i'm not even mentioning Bender as I have my doubts about him playing for NT.
    Arapović, possibly Slavica, I like how Božić looks etc.
    of course, huge question mark is put over our team for the future qualifications considering we have many of them playing in NBA and they will not be available for qualifications.
    but this team is supposed to shine in time for Tokyo olympics, and with spaniards on a downfall after Gasol&co retire, and frenchies on a downfall as well with Parker&Diaw retiring, european basketball map could be changed drastically.

    reason for my optimism is also in the fact that now finally our basketball legends (Toni, Dino, Stojko etc) are working with players but are also integrated in our basketball federation and I do hope that one of them will become our new basketball federation president in the near future.
    that wasn't the case in the last 20 years.
    all three of them have worked together with this team, every player has been thankfull for their participation during the preparation for OQT.
    that is something we missed.
    of course, choosing a right coach will play a huge role in our NT future.
    but whoever we chose it should be for the next 4 year period and continuity is something our basketball has missed.
    regardless of how it finishes tomorrow the future is bright for us.
    and I'm quite sure that on thursday morning around 5:30 (CET) it will be even brighter.
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    Croatia has more big prospects then Serbia, but it's wrong to predict future of NT's becasue we never know who will reach potential, who will be new "Ilglauskas" and not to mention that talent is not all. I would give 10 primadonna like Tomic for one Planinic

    Good thing that core of this team except Simon and Ukic are very young, but after Ukic we have huge gap at PG spot.

    Back to present, this team unlike previous look mentally tough and I belive they can beat Serbia
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