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  • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
    That was some wall of a post but nice read. Political will, I agree. As long as the first word is stronger than the second, the cycle continues.
    Thanks. The cycle will continue if SBP won't do something drastic. The latest result as I type is more than enough reason to kickstart the change in our very insular basketball culture.
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    • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
      Very good points. Compton really has the brains. Alaska knew it that's why he was given that much leeway. It's really not Compton's fault his team was not talented enough to compete against the PBA powerhouses. But yeah, when you can't seem to really get over the humps, changes are in order. Wouldn't be surprised if this season Alaska blows its team up and go ona rebuild mode.
      I'm just wondering, like coach compton, most of our coaches agreed that european basketball system is suitable for us but why they didnt not adopt it or incorporate with their coaching system?

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      • Originally posted by Marlon View Post
        I'm just wondering, like coach compton, most of our coaches agreed that european basketball system is suitable for us but why they didnt not adopt it or incorporate with their coaching system?
        Because team owners here are in a win-now mode. They can't accept the fact that Euro-style basketball takes time to develop and implement. That is why you have coaches like Tab who didn't have much success with limited preparation time and support from stakeholders, but succeeded when they were given time to nurture the system on their own terms.
        Keep running, big boy.

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        • the bcap restrictions should be abolished imo so that our schools and pro teams have a free hand on who can coach their respective teams regardless of nationality.

          pba also should do away from a 3 conference if they really want to help the program. what is happening kasi is they are hijacking gilas program - they don't want to revive the gilas 1.0 model because it will hurt depth of draft but at the same time not giving the nt coach a leeway in preparing for every tournament we play.
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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            the bcap restrictions should be abolished imo so that our schools and pro teams have a free hand on who can coach their respective teams regardless of nationality.

            pba also should do away from a 3 conference if they really want to help the program. what is happening kasi is they are hijacking gilas program - they don't want to revive the gilas 1.0 model because it will hurt depth of draft but at the same time not giving the nt coach a leeway in preparing for every tournament we play.
            The jingoism of BCAP is just shameful. This equates as to why we have a nun-functional MRT and, why we still use buses that don't follow traffic rules.

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            • Originally posted by fadzki View Post
              With all the talent that we have in our PG's where would Panopio be on the depth chart once he graduates from younger Gilas batch? he has the Ravenas, Bolicks and JGDLs to compete for a Gilas slot.


              Not everyone of this PGs are world level,so some of them would be better off playing at a high level in the Asian tournament,dictated by size,ability and skills of course.So a 6-8 reliable players at that position is just right,gives Gilas options due to injuries and availability.

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              • Yeng- their guards too big, their bigs too fast.
                Hope people get it, we're behind in development output
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                • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                  Yeng- their guards too big, their bigs too fast.
                  Hope people get it, we're behind in development output
                  well, that's really obvious right now. when a 6'6 opposing guard can guard someone like junmar, there is a problem really. it just tells you that we are not teaching basketball the proper way.
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                  • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                    Yeng- their guards too big, their bigs too fast.
                    Hope people get it, we're behind in development output

                    Not quick enough to keep up with CJ,I believe a Martin/CJ at PG would be too quick for those big guards to keep up.Norwood should have done the Castro thing,he should have backed out,his skills aren't at par anymore.Castro knew that he lost a step even at the Asian Qualifiers,he doesn't want to be a burden or embarrassed in the big stage.

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                    • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                      Not quick enough to keep up with CJ,I believe a Martin/CJ at PG would be too quick for those big guards to keep up.Norwood should have done the Castro thing,he should have backed out,his skills aren't at par anymore.Castro knew that he lost a step even at the Asian Qualifiers,he doesn't want to be a burden or embarrassed in the big stage.
                      i think yeng is totally wrong on not convincing parks tbh. taas kasi ng pride eh.
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                      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                        i think yeng is totally wrong on not convincing parks tbh. taas kasi ng pride eh.

                        Parks is a must,it gives the offense an option to play as a SG or a big PG who can create his own shots,I wouldn't mind the trio of Parks,Bolick and Ildefonso,yes he will be 19 by next year I believe so he's a grown man and he has experience in playing at the World level.

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                        • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                          Parks is a must,it gives the offense an option to play as a SG or a big PG who can create his own shots,I wouldn't mind the trio of Parks,Bolick and Ildefonso,yes he will be 19 by next year I believe so he's a grown man and he has experience in playing at the World level.
                          parks, bolick, perez and dave even jgdl. these backcourt have alot confidence way above than our so called veterans and pros.

                          we should start on thinking about the future.

                          among the current roster, only bolick and perez are the ones i see as our future cornerstones of gilas.

                          after the seag and start of windows next year, we should build our backcourt and wings:

                          -jgdl
                          -bolick
                          -perez
                          -ildefonso
                          -parks
                          -e. ramos
                          -martin
                          -d. ramos

                          we should build the bigs:

                          -balty
                          -chiu
                          -go
                          -tamayo
                          -cortez

                          as far as the naturalized player is concerned, we probably see the last of blatche. you can sense in his body language that he no longer interested to be part of gilas. besides, ever since he joined gilas, his commitment is pretty questionable as he always comes to gilas out of shape. if we are going for a naturalized player, you better look for the attitude and his desire about playing for the philippines. brownlee, no matter how he loves the country, cannot make the cut because he is too old.

                          -jollibee, he expressed his desire to play for gilas. it is something you can take as positive. he is also relatively young at 24. his size, at 6'9, is also good for a power forward and can play 3 or 5 in some situations. he also has the necessary skills to be integral part of gilas - ballhandling, length, ability to drive and shooting. his court vision can be fixed.

                          -ange kouame, this man, at 20, is very young and he keeps on improving. he is better as a spare tire if jollibee is not available.
                          Last edited by ja.he; 08-31-2019, 10:48 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                            Yeng- their guards too big, their bigs too fast.
                            Hope people get it, we're behind in development output
                            Almost the same alibi from our U-19 coach.

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                            • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                              Almost the same alibi from our U-19 coach.
                              they can try to close the gap with skills but the way we play basketball is by gulang, dirty plays and mind games and those things doesnt work outside of the Philippines.

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                              • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                                parks, bolick, perez and dave even jgdl. these backcourt have alot confidence way above than our so called veterans and pros.

                                we should start on thinking about the future.

                                among the current roster, only bolick and perez are the ones i see as our future cornerstones of gilas.

                                after the seag and start of windows next year, we should build our backcourt and wings:

                                -jgdl
                                -bolick
                                -perez
                                -ildefonso
                                -parks
                                -e. ramos
                                -martin
                                -d. ramos

                                we should build the bigs:

                                -balty
                                -chiu
                                -go
                                -tamayo
                                -cortez

                                as far as the naturalized player is concerned, we probably see the last of blatche. you can sense in his body language that he no longer interested to be part of gilas. besides, ever since he joined gilas, his commitment is pretty questionable as he always comes to gilas out of shape. if we are going for a naturalized player, you better look for the attitude and his desire about playing for the philippines. brownlee, no matter how he loves the country, cannot make the cut because he is too old.

                                -jollibee, he expressed his desire to play for gilas. it is something you can take as positive. he is also relatively young at 24. his size, at 6'9, is also good for a power forward and can play 3 or 5 in some situations. he also has the necessary skills to be integral part of gilas - ballhandling, length, ability to drive and shooting. his court vision can be fixed.

                                -ange kouame, this man, at 20, is very young and he keeps on improving. he is better as a spare tire if jollibee is not available.

                                Start at the PGs no more Barok's size they're a libility in defense all the time.The available pool of guys at PG should be the young upcoming and aggressive ones with fresh legs.Martin/Kiefer/CJ/Panopio/JGDL.The combo shooting guards of Parks/Bolick/Lassiter/Ildefonso/Clarkson.Replacement for Gabe who's long overdue is KP,who can play a small SF or a big SG too,at SF,Rosario/Rike/Go/Tamayo/Quiambao. The PF,Japeth is just not a world level player but still serviceable in Asian qualifiers,Japeth/EJ/Naturalize Player/Erram. At C,JF is still the main guy,time to bring up Kai as his backup.

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