Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. IV

[sajubeads]

I am actually baffled there seems to be a non existing race for youth programs to be able to send their wards to the NBA. I mean, yeah they train and all but no extra effort to identify talents and exclusively train them with the ultimate goal of making it to the NBA.

Of course that would require extra resources as well, and not so tangible returns of prestige and fame. Businessmen come to mind, they could actually use that. Corporate entities get involved and you have commercialism to deal with. With commercialism comes conflicting interests. I see this as one sad cycle that plagues our basketball programs.

Why will a school owner sponsor his star players NBA training, what if he become good enough, he will be recruited by NBA teams or by G League, iiwanan nia ang school ko. How will we win the coveted UAAP championship or recoup my investment on him....

[NOiNU]

Why will a school owner sponsor his star players NBA training, what if he become good enough, he will be recruited by NBA teams or by G League, iiwanan nia ang school ko. How will we win the coveted UAAP championship or recoup my investment on him....

So true, so little return of investment on the schools' part. Prestige, fame, honor. One thing though, when your school produces NBA level talents in a constant basis, hordes of talent would come knocking on your door. Recruitment of the best players wouldn't be any easier.

[digitalsuperman]

Why will a school owner sponsor his star players NBA training, what if he become good enough, he will be recruited by NBA teams or by G League, iiwanan nia ang school ko. How will we win the coveted UAAP championship or recoup my investment on him....

true. this is common sense. schools are not charitable institutions. these are private schools. i'm surprised many people do not understand this. wow.

[ccharmed]

There's really no other move than to try and harvest for the dfa as many promising boys as early as possible. You get 100 talented boys, you may get 10-20 to play for the pinoy nt. Sadly, we are a poor nation and only young patriots like kai and aj, and the others who willingly slave away from u16 to u19 may be all we'll ever get to see.

[NOiNU]

I am actually baffled there seems to be a non existing race for youth programs to be able to send their wards to the NBA. I mean, yeah they train and all but no extra effort to identify talents and exclusively train them with the ultimate goal of making it to the NBA.

Of course that would require extra resources as well, and not so tangible returns of prestige and fame. Businessmen come to mind, they could actually use that. Corporate entities get involved and you have commercialism to deal with. With commercialism comes conflicting interests. I see this as one sad cycle that plagues our basketball programs.

@digitalsuperman you are obviously referring to me thinking I "don't understand" this. You wouldn't be saying that if you understood this second paragraph of my post. Let me spoonfeed you.

School: you have NBA potential. What do you say we find you a sponsor, we provide you the best training. In return, you work your ass off and you play for us for some years and then move on to pursue your dream.

Student Athlete: offer accepted.

Corporate Sponsor: will do, but I need some favors.

When all parties are agreeable, this scenario is more than feasible.

Common sense na naman?! Lol no comment na nga lang.

[digitalsuperman]

@digitalsuperman you are obviously referring to me thinking I "don't understand" this. You wouldn't be saying that if you understood this second paragraph of my post. Let me spoonfeed you.

School: you have NBA potential. What do you say we find you a sponsor, we provide you the best training. In return, you work your ass off and you play for us for some years and then move on to pursue your dream.

Student Athlete: offer accepted.

Corporate Sponsor: will do, but I need some favors.

When all parties are agreeable, this scenario is more than feasible.

Common sense na naman?! Lol no comment na nga lang.

lol. you want them to play for the school for "some" years only. clearly you have no common sense.

[NOiNU]

Common sense dictates that the quantifier "some" could mean 2,3,4 or 5 or even more. Clearly, you think you have common sense. Lol

[digitalsuperman]

Common sense dictates that the quantifier "some" can mean 2,3,4 or 5 or even more. Clearly, you think you have common sense. Lol

they will max out elibility. then school is moot already in this scenario. this is happening already with parks and ravena.

[NOiNU]

they will max out elibility. then school is moot already in this scenario. this is happening already with parks and ravena.

Thing is, maxing out the eligibility should be the least of our concerns here. It is a non issue when parties are agreeable to terms. It is actually identifying talent to invest on that is hard because Kai Sottos don't come up that often. Borderline talents like JGDL and the likes would be a hard sell to sponsors (btw schools can even ask the SBP for assistance if they really think some kid has a good chance to make it, they don't have to be charitable institutions), but if I were a multibillionaire and happen to be an avid fan of the sport, I might actually invest on him. There's actually 4 talents I'd be willing to take a chance on--Juan, Thirdy, Baltazar and a sane Kobe Paras. Too bad I'm poor.

The reason why I bring this up is because I actually understand the schools have very little initiative to do such things. I was about to propose that the SBP changes this by offering incentives to schools that could accomplish such feats. Monetary rewards or some form of assistance to the schools sports program might do the trick. If the prize is set to an amount worthy of attention, there's a chance these schools would not only consider it but actually go for it. SBP could guise it as The Road to NBA program, have their own partner in Chooks to go, etc., and even offer preliminary perks to schools to help with the process. This might work, in my book it's worth a try.

[digitalsuperman]

Thing is, maxing out the eligibility should be the least of our concerns here. It is a non issue when parties are agreeable to terms. It is actually identifying talent to invest on that is hard because Kai Sottos don't come up that often. Borderline talents like JGDL and the likes would be a hard sell to sponsors (btw schools can even ask the SBP for assistance if they really think some kid has a good chance to make it, they don't have to be charitable institutions), but if I were a multibillionaire and happen to be an avid fan of the sport, I might actually invest on him. There's actually 4 talents I'd be willing to take a chance on--Juan, Thirdy, Baltazar and a sane Kobe Paras. Too bad I'm poor.

The reason why I bring this up is because I actually understand the schools have very little initiative to do such things. I was about to propose that the SBP changes this by offering incentives to schools that could accomplish such feats. Monetary rewards or some form of assistance to the schools sports program might do the trick. If the prize is set to an amount worthy of attention, there's a chance these schools would not only consider it but actually go for it. SBP could guise it as The Road to NBA program, have their own partner in Chooks to go, etc., and even offer preliminary perks to schools to help with the process. This might work, in my book it's worth a try.

in the scenario you have painted, i dont think schools will be a factor since they will max out eligibility anyway and after school nothing is gonna stop the player from pursuing whatever they want. parks was just lucky that NU was able to shoulder his NBA dream. while ravena had to shell out his own cash for the training. with the exception of parks in which they had an agreement i suppose, i dont think other schools with vested interest will do much after school. as for sponsor, will there is chooks to go. but only for special players i guess.

[NOiNU]

in the scenario you have painted, i dont think schools will be a factor since they will max out eligibility anyway and after school nothing is gonna stop the player from pursuing whatever they want. parks was just lucky that NU was able to shoulder his NBA dream. while ravena had to shell out his own cash for the training. with the exception of parks in which they had an agreement i suppose, i dont think other schools with vested interest will do much after school. as for sponsor, will there is chooks to go. but only for special players i guess.

Of course, but they don't have to be a current student for the school to avail of the incentive. SBP should simply set the parameters. For example, even if Thirdy is already a pro, and by some miracle he gets an NBA call up, if he falls under the parameters set by the SBP (minimum playing years, etc.) then his alma mater reaps the reward. In this case, it is easily identifiable as Ateneo.

[kristoffer019]

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[digitalsuperman]

Of course, but they don't have to be a current student for the school to avail of the incentive. SBP should simply set the parameters. For example, even if Thirdy is already a pro, and by some miracle he gets an NBA call up, if he falls under the parameters set by the SBP (minimum playing years, etc.) then his alma mater reaps the reward. In this case, it is easily identifiable as Ateneo.

i dont think ateneo will reap a reward. of course there will be distinction. schools will always be associated with the success of the players. but the benefits will only stop there as a association thats the only thing the school will get if thats the reward you are referring to. and the NBA doesn't have a call up.

[NOiNU]

i dont think ateneo will reap a reward. of course there will be distinction. schools will always be associated with the success of the players. but the benefits will only stop there as a association thats the only thing the school will get if thats the reward you are referring to. and the NBA doesn't have a call up.

You don’t understand the premise of the discussion. You could backread if you want if you wanna know what reward I am referring to. And what do you mean the NBA diesn’t have call ups? They always do that to undrafted players or former pros playing in other leagues like gleague, euro or CBA?

[digitalsuperman]

You don’t understand the premise of the discussion. You could backread if you want if you wanna know what reward I am referring to. And what do you mean the NBA diesn’t have call ups? They always do that to undrafted players or former pros playing in other leagues like gleague, euro or CBA?

they'd have to join the NBA draft first. schools doesn't get any reward in whatever the player pursue next. i stand by it.