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    Default Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. IV

    Previous thread is here.

    Castro may have played his last game for Gilas. Won't be surprised if the core of the silver generation such as RDO, Ping, and Chan will follow suit.


    Goodbye for 'The Blur?' Jayson Castro hints he has played his final game for Gilas

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBluePinoy View Post
    Previous thread is here.

    Castro may have played his last game for Gilas. Won't be surprised if the core of the silver generation such as RDO, Ping, and Chan will follow suit.


    Goodbye for 'The Blur?' Jayson Castro hints he has played his final game for Gilas
    The guy is 30. He is still serviceable. An emotional decision, not a logical one if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBluePinoy View Post
    Previous thread is here.

    Castro may have played his last game for Gilas. Won't be surprised if the core of the silver generation such as RDO, Ping, and Chan will follow suit.


    Goodbye for 'The Blur?' Jayson Castro hints he has played his final game for Gilas
    still at his prime of his game at 30. Really no tangible reasons to retire from international competition. No heir apparent yet....unless of course these consecutive heart-breaking losses is taking a toil on him.
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    Ranidel officially retires from international duty.

    http://www.rappler.com/sports/by-spo...edium=referral

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBluePinoy View Post
    Ranidel officially retires from international duty.

    http://www.rappler.com/sports/by-spo...edium=referral
    It was bound to happen. His game has regressed since the final against China last year. Him retiring is more acceptable than Castro's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerial Voyager View Post
    still at his prime of his game at 30. Really no tangible reasons to retire from international competition. No heir apparent yet....unless of course these consecutive heart-breaking losses is taking a toil on him.
    Remember when Chris Tiu officially declared he was retiring from the national team after the 2011 FIBA Asia? That was funny. He had how many stints with the national team (not counting SEA Games)? 1?

    And how old was he then? 25? lol
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    Has Tab officially come out and apologized to the nation for the team's shortcomings? 70 percent of the burden goes to the coaching staff. I did not see Tab making the proper in game decisions and adjustments in the tuneups all the way to the OQT games. Jeez 90 percent of his playbook was just Dray isos or the point guards isos at the top. The people I watched the games with cringed everytime Blatche tried to be Lebron. I dunno but Tab's offense is too predictable its as if he did not have one and dont get me started on the defensive lapses.

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    In the future Gilas we will have a tall pass-first PG in 6'1 Scottie Tompson and he is also a scorer, a good rebounder for a guard and a good defender(triple double man). Gilas program should also include 6'5 SG Dwight Ramos(18 yrs. old), 6'6 SF Kobe Paras(18 years old) and hopefully a vastly-improve and taller Center/Forward AJ Edu(6'9 16 years old) and Jeremiah Pangalangan(6'10 17 years old) in the future Gilas Pilipinas pool..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FARIDOON View Post
    In the future Gilas we will have a tall pass-first PG in 6'1 Scottie Tompson and he is also a scorer, a good rebounder for a guard and a good defender(triple double man). Gilas program should also include 6'5 SG Dwight Ramos(18 yrs. old), 6'6 SF Kobe Paras(18 years old) and hopefully a vastly-improve and taller Center/Forward AJ Edu(6'9 16 years old) and Jeremiah Pangalangan(6'10 17 years old) in the future Gilas Pilipinas pool..
    Not sure about this. He's in the SMC camp, we all know what happened to Junmar and Japeth. SMC lent them but didn't get enough burn on the floor.

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    According to the Wikipedia of the SBP "The SBP will hold general elections in April 2016 (supposedly scheduled for January 2016) to elect the possible replacements of Pangilinan and other members of the SBP board". But no news if that election push trough, the replacements should be not from the MVP camp and the SMB camp for unity in Philippines Basketball..

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    Gilas may be feeling betrayed.

    I believe no one is saying it out loud, but the players, especially the veteran campaigners are maybe feeling it, hence, the knee-jerk reaction at retiring. All the hard work just to be blindsided for an easy ambush from a gleeful bunch of tall blacks.

    I think Abueva might have, could have, served a better purpose... if only to be the "clog" to stem the onrush, or provide the disruptive force to stymie the tempo build-up to an impending rout or just maybe something to ruffle their feather. No one among Gilas at the end of the bench could've provided this or was able to...

    It was all too rosy how the tall blacks arranged and essayed the Gilas' ambush-- in hindsight, it might not have been such a bad thought by far and wide for Tab Baldwin to have provided as much thorns as possible along the tall black's way, in order to create as much difficulty... Calvin Abueva's name comes to mind.

    TAB for whatever reason, probably knew or had a bad feeling that beating NZ was a tall order, a proposition stacked in a big way against Gilas, reason why he put all the eggs in the basket in their game against France.

    Now, if that is so, why did we not see the twin towers summoned, which apparently is Gilas's best weapon, in our game against Les Bleus? Neither have we seen this weapon dutifully practiced, drilled, and perfected to the bone during the preparation stages and the preliminaries?

    All too confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FARIDOON View Post
    According to the Wikipedia of the SBP "The SBP will hold general elections in April 2016 (supposedly scheduled for January 2016) to elect the possible replacements of Pangilinan and other members of the SBP board". But no news if that election push trough, the replacements should be not from the MVP camp and the SMB camp for unity in Philippines Basketball..
    SM would be ideal. Chito Loyzaga would make for a good program head.

    Don't think Hans Sy is interested though. He already has the NU program to worry about.

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    Here we go again marc pingris is a smc guy he used to be playing with alot of minutes in gilas but with his age now its understandable why his minutes regressed.. same as tenorio... junemar is still raw in 2013 and 2014 but he finaly got his minutes in WC and he got a chance last night reklamo padin kayo? and from the start we all know junemar is just going to be a back up... we all know why japhet has no playing time dyosko lumipas na year 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 4 coaches na nagdaan japeth pa kayo ng japeth? japeth is there for match up purposes we can use him on some team but diffinitely not with teams like france etc we will get killed inside that guy has no focus all he wants to do is dunk and block shot... no mvp, smc favoritism here if lassiter played im pretty sure baldwin will give him alot of minutes.... tigilan nyo na pag iimbento chismis pleaseeeeeeeeeee

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    Should Gilas have Romeo, Parks and Rosario as key core members for the 2019 cycle, we should be fine. The experience those three got from the games vs FRA and NZ should help their development.

    Unfortunately, two of those three are PBA players, and the SBP seems pretty adamant that there will be little to no PBA representation thanks to the FIBA BS format, so we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleMarco2016 View Post
    Should Gilas have Romeo, Parks and Rosario as key core members for the 2019 cycle, we should be fine. The experience those three got from the games vs FRA and NZ should help their development.

    Unfortunately, two of those three are PBA players, and the SBP seems pretty adamant that there will be little to no PBA representation thanks to the FIBA BS format, so we shall see.
    Can't blame the SBP when the new FIBA qualification games run smack into the PBA season and the Jurassic Commissioner still wants to keep the 3-conference format to keep money flowing. After all, nobody watches regular season games unless it's the popular teams, and everybody watches championship games ESPECIALLY if it's the popular teams.
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    The light at the end of the tunnel is that RSA and MVP may have already buried the hatchet. Reports have it that RSA watched the PHL-FRA game, one of those rare times that RSA was seen in public watching a basketball game.

    But more importantly, RSA has somehow smoked the peace pipe when he invited MVP (along with other tycoons like JAZA, Hans Sy, etc.) in a purported Manila airport project at the reclamation area in Parañaque amounting to approximately $10B. This project was initially shelved, but is being revived under the new administration. Because of the financial magnitude, it makes business sense for RSA to partner with other infrastructure investors to make this project come to fruition.

    Not being too optimistic though, but at least, these are good signs. Especially if they end up being business partners in this endeavor.

    Then, from what I hear, Noli Eala is practically out of the SMC Group already so there won't be any "antagonistic" perspective. It's Al Chua who's running the sports show at SMC, and he may be the "friendlier" conduit to help unite PHL basketball.

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    in short our PG's are all westbrook type of PG's. We don't have PG's like stockton nor steve nash.

    I understand why Japeth isn't field in by tab during the france game and i figure it out during the game itself that it's a mismatch for japeth to match up diaw, lauvergne. Japeth's type of match up is against Chinese bigs not french bigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judasmartel View Post
    Can't blame the SBP when the new FIBA qualification games run smack into the PBA season and the Jurassic Commissioner still wants to keep the 3-conference format to keep money flowing. After all, nobody watches regular season games unless it's the popular teams, and everybody watches championship games ESPECIALLY if it's the popular teams.
    I can't really blame the PBA either. I can understand why it'd be hard to adjust schedules now without specific weeks and dates from FIBA with regards to when the qualifying matches will be played. Scheduling games comes to fruit years out, it'd be hard to schedule games right now without the specific time FIBA has in mind.

    This is all FIBA's doing, and it's a shame a lot of leagues will be hurt by this.

    If you think about it though, this new format should be more beneficial for the PBA in this sense: while players would leave their mother teams in the middle of the season and the PBA would have to postpone games, there would be no more need for a month or two month long build-up for Gilas as we see for specific qualifying tournaments, which would mean less wear and tear for the players. Something to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    The light at the end of the tunnel is that RSA and MVP may have already buried the hatchet. Reports have it that RSA watched the PHL-FRA game, one of those rare times that RSA was seen in public watching a basketball game.

    But more importantly, RSA has somehow smoked the peace pipe when he invited MVP (along with other tycoons like JAZA, Hans Sy, etc.) in a purported Manila airport project at the reclamation area in Parañaque amounting to approximately $10B. This project was initially shelved, but is being revived under the new administration. Because of the financial magnitude, it makes business sense for RSA to partner with other infrastructure investors to make this project come to fruition.

    Not being too optimistic though, but at least, these are good signs. Especially if they end up being business partners in this endeavor.

    Then, from what I hear, Noli Eala is practically out of the SMC Group already so there won't be any "antagonistic" perspective. It's Al Chua who's running the sports show at SMC, and he may be the "friendlier" conduit to help unite PHL basketball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    The light at the end of the tunnel is that RSA and MVP may have already buried the hatchet. Reports have it that RSA watched the PHL-FRA game, one of those rare times that RSA was seen in public watching a basketball game.

    But more importantly, RSA has somehow smoked the peace pipe when he invited MVP (along with other tycoons like JAZA, Hans Sy, etc.) in a purported Manila airport project at the reclamation area in Parañaque amounting to approximately $10B. This project was initially shelved, but is being revived under the new administration. Because of the financial magnitude, it makes business sense for RSA to partner with other infrastructure investors to make this project come to fruition.

    Not being too optimistic though, but at least, these are good signs. Especially if they end up being business partners in this endeavor.

    Then, from what I hear, Noli Eala is practically out of the SMC Group already so there won't be any "antagonistic" perspective. It's Al Chua who's running the sports show at SMC, and he may be the "friendlier" conduit to help unite PHL basketball.
    I did see RSA watch the France game. Nice to see, though I hope that RSA didn't get pissed seeing June Mar only play a few minutes vs France and Japeth get benched the whole game...lol

    Also interesting MVP, through TV 5 of course, invited in Petron and San Miguel Beer to sponsor the tournament.

    Small things probably, but still something to consider.

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