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    Good read: http://www.rio2016.com/es/noticias/e...-para-rio-2016

    I recommend it as it describes the next generation being mentored by the likes of Scola in Rio.

    Campazzo, Laprovitolla, Brussino, Delia, Deck, Garino and Gallizzi are next up and will only get better as they harness more seasons.
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    Pablo Prigioni won't be part of the pool as per personal decision.
    https://twitter.com/PPrigioni9/statu...49868066078720
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    A friendly against Brazil awaits in Les Vegas NV come 19th of July.
    http://www.fiba.com/olympics/2016/ne...razil-in-vegas
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    Ginobili-Scola-Nocioni that trio will play in their 4th Olympics together (2004-2008-2012-2016).Thats remarkable to me,usually there is only one player in generation that is able to play 4 straight Olympics.

    With that trio in lineup Argentina made atleast semifinal in every world competion they played together (2002,2004,2006,2008,2012).This will surely be farewell tournament to this Golden Argentina team.

    One of the most competitive character team i have ever seen.
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    One of the often forgotten games that in my opinion showed how good that Argentina team was took place in the 2003 fiba Americas tournament. Coming off the historic win over the USA in 2002, they next met again in the preliminary round of the fiba Americas the following year. A loaded USA team that had revenge on their mind was taken to the wire in a very close game. And although they got blown out later in the championship game they proved a point and set the stage for the following year in the Olympics when the USA sent a weaker team and was thoroughly outclassed and beaten by Argentina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    One of the often forgotten games that in my opinion showed how good that Argentina team was took place in the 2003 fiba Americas tournament. Coming off the historic win over the USA in 2002, they next met again in the preliminary round of the fiba Americas the following year. A loaded USA team that had revenge on their mind was taken to the wire in a very close game. And although they got blown out later in the championship game they proved a point and set the stage for the following year in the Olympics when the USA sent a weaker team and was thoroughly outclassed and beaten by Argentina.
    Yes, I actually remember that game (I have it on VHS tape!). What's interesting is that the 2003 USA Team exhibited the same deficiencies defensively that doomed so many US squads of that era. Despite all the firepower they possessed, they simply couldn't defend Argentina's continuity offense, and I remember being on the edge of my seat as Ginobili, Lopez, Scola, Delfino and the rest carved up the US with an endless array of backdoor cuts and slick interior passes. Ultimately, the US put together enough plays to stay ahead and win, but their narrow victory reinforced the flaws (2002 embarrassment) and foreshadowed (2004 struggles) the events that led up to USA Basketball ousting the incompetent Stu Jackson and his committee and bringing in Coach K and Jerry Colangelo to right the ship. The '03 team on paper was far superior than the 2004 Olympic product, and had its members gone on to represent the US in Athens they probably would've won gold...but USA Basketball would've still been broken as far as its philosophy and approach to international basketball. A 2004 gold medal would've only delayed the inevitable. Eventually had we kept the same blueprint (throwing all-star teams together and expecting them to gel seamlessly) the 2008 and 2012 titles would've never materialized. Thankfully we're at a point now where American players have a deeper understanding and better appreciation for FIBA basketball...due in large part to Argentina and the ass-kickings they handed us back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Federoy View Post
    Yes, I actually remember that game (I have it on VHS tape!). What's interesting is that the 2003 USA Team exhibited the same deficiencies defensively that doomed so many US squads of that era. Despite all the firepower they possessed, they simply couldn't defend Argentina's continuity offense, and I remember being on the edge of my seat as Ginobili, Lopez, Scola, Delfino and the rest carved up the US with an endless array of backdoor cuts and slick interior passes. Ultimately, the US put together enough plays to stay ahead and win, but their narrow victory reinforced the flaws (2002 embarrassment) and foreshadowed (2004 struggles) the events that led up to USA Basketball ousting the incompetent Stu Jackson and his committee and bringing in Coach K and Jerry Colangelo to right the ship. The '03 team on paper was far superior than the 2004 Olympic product, and had its members gone on to represent the US in Athens they probably would've won gold...but USA Basketball would've still been broken as far as its philosophy and approach to international basketball. A 2004 gold medal would've only delayed the inevitable. Eventually had we kept the same blueprint (throwing all-star teams together and expecting them to gel seamlessly) the 2008 and 2012 titles would've never materialized. Thankfully we're at a point now where American players have a deeper understanding and better appreciation for FIBA basketball...due in large part to Argentina and the ass-kickings they handed us back then.
    It's funny even before this Argentinian golden generation they have always competed well against the USA. In the 1986 worlds they were the only team that defeated the gold medal USA team doing what the Petrovic led Yugoslavian and Sabonis led Soviet teams could not do. And in the opening game of the 1996 Olympics against an unbelievably powerful USA squad they trailed by only 2 points at halftime and by only a dozen with about 7 minutes to play before the USA pulled away. Other than the final against Serbia that was the toughest game the USA had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    It's funny even before this Argentinian golden generation they have always competed well against the USA. In the 1986 worlds they were the only team that defeated the gold medal USA team doing what the Petrovic led Yugoslavian and Sabonis led Soviet teams could not do. And in the opening game of the 1996 Olympics against an unbelievably powerful USA squad they trailed by only 2 points at halftime and by only a dozen with about 7 minutes to play before the USA pulled away. Other than the final against Serbia that was the toughest game the USA had.
    Yes...Argentina has a history of giving us fits. They've been exceptional at exploiting the US defensively in three phases: 1) Limiting turnovers 2) Slowing down the tempo 3) Spacing their offense

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    Nicolas Brussino is attending the Utah Jazz pre-draft camp.
    http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/nicolas-b...-los-ojos-nba/
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    Argentina announced 20 players for preparations

    http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/hernandez...juegos-de-rio/

    PG:

    Facundo Campazzo - Murcia (España)
    Nicolás Laprovittola - Estudiantes de Madrid (España)
    Luca Vildoza - Quilmes de Mar del Plata

    SG:

    Emanuel Ginóbili - San Antonio Spurs (Estados Unidos)
    Nicolás Brussino - Peñarol de Mar del Plata
    Leonel Schattmann - Gimnasia (CR)
    Selem Safar - Obras Sanitarias
    Nicolás Richotti - Iberostar Tenerife (España)

    SF:

    Andrés Nocioni - Real Madrid (España)
    Patricio Garino - no club (graduated from George Washington University)
    Marcos Mata - San Lorenzo
    Federico Aguerre - San Martín de Corrientes
    Juan Pablo Vaulet - Bahía Basket
    Gabriel Deck - Quimsa de Santiago del Estero

    PF:

    Luis Scola - Toronto Raptors (NBA)
    Leonardo Mainoldi - Gimnasia (CR)
    Javier Saiz - Regatas (Corrientes)

    C:

    Marcos Delía - Obras Sanitarias
    Roberto Acuña - Peñarol de Mar del Plata
    Tayavek Gallizzi - Quilmes de Mar del Plata


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    Carlos Delfino is added to the pool. He was out of bball for 3 years due to health problems, now practising with local club. It'll be interesting to see how he will do


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    14 players continues preparation for Rio

    http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/hernandez...n-a-las-vegas/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedfan
    Most ppl get childish when they lose.
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    refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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    It was a fun ride!

    2001 America Championships 1°
    2002 World Championships 2°
    2003 America Championships 2°
    2004 Olympic Championships 1°
    2005 America Championships 2°
    2006 World Championships 4°
    2007 America Championships 2°
    2008 Olympic Championships 3°
    2009 America Championships 3°
    2010 World Championships 5°
    2011 America Championships 1°
    2012 Olympic Championships 4°
    2013 America Championships 3°
    2014 World Championships 11°
    2015 America Championships 2°
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    I'm not really sure how they would do it but the Golden Generation definitely needs to be in the Basketball HOF

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    GG Argentina
    Thanks you Ginobili, for everything!
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    To me Nocioni is one of the more underrated players of his era. There is nothing he couldn't do on the court and was a much better offensive player than most give him credit for. It's a shame he's ah injury issues since getting traded to my Sixers.

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    Two teams will always have a special place in world basketball history. The Argentina team of '02-'04 for being the first to beat a USA-NBA team. The first time is always the hardest because the doubt is always there until it is accomplished. They backed it up by winning gold in '04. And the '02 Serbian team for being the first team ever to eliminate the USA-NBA teams from a tournament. They will always stand out to me.

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    Noce was the man when he first came to the Bulls. Given Crazy to think that he first burst on the international scene with his dunk over Garnett in 1999, in a tournament where the Argentine coach said something like the only way they could beat the US was if they got lost on the way to the arena or something like that. Crazy how fast things changed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fedfan
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuTO
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