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    PG: N. Laprovittola, Janavicius, Juskevicius
    SG: Runkauskas, Lukauskis
    SF: Gailius, Giedraitis
    PF: Gudaitis, Orelikas,
    C: Kavaliauskas, Jucikas

    Those seem to be a lock for next season. Also a scrub Babrauskas is training with the team (obviously not too many teams want him these days) and some youngsters - E. Seskus here to mention, IMO.

    Interesting team because of young studs like Gudaitis, Giedraitis, quality Lithuanian players as Kavaliauskas, Gailius, Janavicius, Juskevicius, Runkauskas, Orelikas, Ksistof, but I hate to see washed out Lukauskis, not sure if Jucikas is in his place. Strong core of Lithuanians, but the team looks too weak to beat Zalgiris, way worse coaching staff. I'm not much familiar with Laprovittola though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    PG: N. Laprovittola, Janavicius, Juskevicius
    SG: Runkauskas, Lukauskis
    SF: Gailius, Giedraitis
    PF: Gudaitis, Orelikas,
    C: Kavaliauskas, Jucikas
    I think Jucikas and Gudaitis have to be switched around. Lukauskis isn't too bad of a player in my opinion. I like his intensity, athleticism and length, but yeah, he is too old to be playing 20+ minutes day in, day out. Overall, the roster doesn't look much better than last season's, but compared to Zalgiris's, it's okay.

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    You've missed Ksystof in depth chart

    Overall, I agree, interesting team. Some past flashes from beginning of the club - talented youngsters + foreigner PG (Elliott back then) and some older players, but of course nowhere close to talent back then. Laprovittola should do fine IMO. As I understood team will play fast bball, with lot of shooting (triples), so it's his style, that's the bball played in Brazilian league and he did really good there. Nicola will help him a lot too.
    Regarding neverending Rytas vs Zalgiris discussion, IMO it's too early to tell, a lot will depend how Zalgiris newcomers will do, how Liths will cope with injuries and etc. But I consider this Rytas as surely stronger opposition than last season


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    Even as a Zalgiris fan I agree that this roster is quite intriguing. I doubt Gudaitis and Kavaliauskas will be spending too much time on the floor together though.

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    Good looking roster and I sincerely hope Rytas does well this coming season.


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    Wish them all the best. Would love to see them winning a title or two.

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    If I'd be a Rytas fan, I would be concerned with how Laprovittola adapts to totally different culture.
    Argentinians seem to adapt well in Spain, where they can speak the same language and enjoy the similar weather. But they tend to get moody when the environment isn't clicking.
    Rytas will be his first club away from his continent, he will be the only foreigner in the club. Also I wonder, if he speaks decent English. If not - then the only one who he will be able to communicate in the club with is the coach. I would not say, that this is good for the team.

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    sashikas, good point. We all remember Ayuso being home sick in Zalgiris. On other hand, there was different cases with Latino players, but it should be a concern.

    I really wondering how Babrauskas is feeling these days being a training meat. I bet J. Vainauskas and Pačėsas would still bring him to the NT God forbid those two being close to NT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    sashikas, good point. We all remember Ayuso being home sick in Zalgiris. On other hand, there was different cases with Latino players, but it should be a concern.

    I really wondering how Babrauskas is feeling these days being a training meat. I bet J. Vainauskas and Pačėsas would still bring him to the NT God forbid those two being close to NT.
    Ayuso wasn't homesick Ayuso couldn't live the role he he've got in Zalgiris. He came here to be a leader, shoot a lot, game to be run through him, but it wasn't the case, so he wasn't satisfied and club parted ways with him. No wonder bein' really talented and amazing shooter, he never played in any big club.
    Machado was homesick a bit, but he was different kind of person - family man, religious and etc. Overall, it's really individual, there were lot of different cases in football f.e. when South Americans are having decent careers in Eastern Europe, but some can't live even in Spain/Italy due to the same homesick, falls into depression, starts partyin', drinking and etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Ayuso wasn't homesick Ayuso couldn't live the role he he've got in Zalgiris. He came here to be a leader, shoot a lot, game to be run through him, but it wasn't the case, so he wasn't satisfied and club parted ways with him. No wonder bein' really talented and amazing shooter, he never played in any big club.
    Yeah I was unsure saying this. As I thought it was both reasons - being homesick and inability to to adjust to new game style, role, expectations. I remember him having one or few monster games thought.

    It also often happens with Americans as well, let alone Latinos who I think have stronger relations with relatives and usually highly religious. Remember how Alonzo Gee left Pacesas' Asseco Prokom being homesick while he was playing well. Bet than again Anderson felt fine in Zalgiris being alone as a foreigner for a longer part of the season and many other cases. It's very individual indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    PG: N. Laprovittola, Janavicius, Juskevicius
    SG: Runkauskas, Lukauskis
    SF: Gailius, Giedraitis
    PF: Gudaitis, Orelikas,
    C: Kavaliauskas, Jucikas

    Those seem to be a lock for next season. Also a scrub Babrauskas is training with the team (obviously not too many teams want him these days) and some youngsters - E. Seskus here to mention, IMO.
    Boy, a whopping eight players who have suited up for Team Lietuva at least for friendly games and one, Orelikas, who has been on the B team! Only the most benighted hardcore Žalgiris fan could dislike that team.


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    In which leagues/competitions will Rytas participate this year? Can Rytas still qualify for Euroleague like it did in 2013?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepcat View Post
    In which leagues/competitions will Rytas participate this year? Can Rytas still qualify for Euroleague like it did in 2013?

    Eurocup and LKL, no Euroleague for them


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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    PG: N. Laprovittola, Janavicius, Juskevicius
    SG: Runkauskas, Lukauskis
    SF: Gailius, Giedraitis
    PF: Gudaitis, Orelikas,
    C: Kavaliauskas, Jucikas
    Be nice if there was some coaching at Lietuvos Rytas to bring along all those Team Lietuva candidates for the Olympics, e.g. Janavičius, Juškevičius, Runkauskas, Gailius, Giedraitis, Orelikas, Gudaitis and Kavaliauskas. It would be particularly nice if someone could work with Janavičius and Juškevičius to develop their skills as PGs.

    Renaldas Seibutis being the only alternate to Mantas Kalnietis at the PG slot that Coach Kazlauskas trusts during critical games leaves me uncomfortable since those two are only human and need an occasional breather.


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    No suprise Zalgiris went for Vougioukas because Rytas frontline is really physical (Kavaliauskas, Gudaitis, Jucikas). I expect a lot from Gudaitis. He steadily adding skill and will start to outpowering and manhanling his opponents. Dude will be a tank. The question is who will feed him besides Janavicius, but he is already better at p&r than Lekavicius/Cherry. Is Laprovittola a good passer?

    I see Zalgiris' backourt surely better than Rytas, but the frontline with Kavaliauskas and Gudaitis in the first place will go hard on Zalgiris. Will be fun to watch those matchups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    No suprise Zalgiris went for Vougioukas because Rytas frontline is really physical (Kavaliauskas, Gudaitis, Jucikas). I expect a lot from Gudaitis. He steadily adding skill and will start to outpowering and manhanling his opponents. Dude will be a tank. The question is who will feed him besides Janavicius, but he is already better at p&r than Lekavicius/Cherry. Is Laprovittola a good passer?

    I see Zalgiris' backourt surely better than Rytas, but the frontline with Kavaliauskas and Gudaitis in the first place will go hard on Zalgiris. Will be fun to watch those matchups.
    I can assure you that Zalgiris signed Vougioukas not because of Rytas Club received additional money from Olybet, so could afford themselves another C, which was needed badly. Moreover Vougiuokas is not physical, he is quite soft, but can be very efficient in short periods of game, but tbh I wouldn't call Rytas frontcourt as such too. Kavaliauskas good offensive center, but foul prone at defense (like Vougioukas), Jucikas... nothing much to say here, Valeika in the making. Of course Gudaitis is toughest here, but as long as he won't improve his defensive skills, and won't start to be more versatile in offense, like creating his own shot, he won't be that hard to stop with team defensive efforts, especially against p'n'r, Gudaitis still too dependable on PG


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    I can assure you that Zalgiris signed Vougioukas not because of Rytas Club received additional money from Olybet, so could afford themselves another C, which was needed badly. Moreover Vougiuokas is not physical, he is quite soft, but can be very efficient in short periods of game, but tbh I wouldn't call Rytas frontcourt as such too. Kavaliauskas good offensive center, but foul prone at defense (like Vougioukas), Jucikas... nothing much to say here, Valeika in the making. Of course Gudaitis is toughest here, but as long as he won't improve his defensive skills, and won't start to be more versatile in offense, like creating his own shot, he won't be that hard to stop with team defensive efforts, especially against p'n'r, Gudaitis still too dependable on PG
    Well Zalgiris needed a center anyway. Vougioukas playing well back to the basket, skilled for a center, but also huge dude so should be tough enough even if not a power player. Kavaliauskas is though to handle. Zalgiris had troubles doing this last year. Again, Gudaitis is most intriguing. He's surely dependable on PG, but he made some steps further in terms of polishing his offence. I expect another strong leap and you never know how he will look at the end of the year. Too tough and too mobile to handle hopefully. I still think his position is 5 because he has advantage in mobility (quickness) playing this position. His feet is suprisingly fast, specially for offence. We'll see. However, Gudaitis migration made this season more interesting and he's by far highest upside big from Lithuanian top clubs this season (maybe Motum though, but I'm not sure yet who he is).
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    First title for Rytas. 85:84 beat Chimki and won Garastas' cup.

    From what I've seen Rytas offence sucked (Lukauskis, Orelikas, Gailius, Giedraitis because of age...a lot of headless players that won't make a right decision unless some strange mood), but Laprovittola can play. Liked how Gudaitis was crashing the glass in some moments, he's getting stronger. Should work on his post game though to increase his offensive abilities. Well, beating Chimki is a real thing even for such tournament so a good start of the season.
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    Watched Rytas- Pieno Zvaigzdes match-up. Rytas is all about offence once again. Probably the biggest positive about this team is Laprovittola because he can pass and create. That's the biggest improvement since last season. Oveall I'm not impressed with this roster for some reason. I have an impression that Orelikas has no upside left anymore - he's playing the best basketball he can and I expect only slight improvement over years. Gailius, Runkauskas, Juskevicius, Janavicius, Lukauskas, washed out Ksistof are basically mediocre players, not those players you could get exited to watch the game, but probably a lot will depend on what this bunch can offer this year, the coherence. However, I still see this offensive minded and one-dimentional team (which simply can't play tough defence with this roster) standing little chance and after Laprivittola and Kavaliauskas due (not shinning at the defensive end to say the least) the only players who truly have serious and really intriguing upside are Giedraitis and Gudatis. If those latter won't make a serious leap (and it's hardly happening this year already) I can see Zalgiris taking the trophy again. However, it's already fun to watch Giedraitis. The guy is fast, agile, athletic, hungry. Hopefully Gudaitis can make some serious claims this season.
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    Yeah, been watching Giedraitis aswell. Seems he had no issues fitting in. Moves well without the ball, fights and is trigger happy wich I think at this age is a good thing. I expect big things out of him. Hands the the best prospect in LKL imo.

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