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  • #16
    Originally posted by mojo13 View Post
    Mo Harkless is a nice add. I never knew he was from PR.
    When did that happen? Is he naturalized? Wouldn't he need to live there for that?
    He was born in New York, but his grandmother is from Puerto Rico.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Andy7984 View Post
      He was born in New York, but his grandmother is from Puerto Rico.
      One grandparent gets you the right to play for another country? Interesting.
      Seems a little desperate maybe? Maybe Lebron or Durant has a Canadian granny in their past - I should do some digging.

      On a serious note - it may be worthwhile to do that research on some midlevel players that may never play for Team USA. Perhaps they do have some Canadian history that can be exploited. However, Canada is not to apt to dishing out citizenship quite so disgracefully as some of these countries. I am looking at you Philippines!

      Is PR even a country? Do you they have separate or distinct citizenship (or any identification) from the US? Or can they really just snag anyone who may have a loose thread or two to the island?

      Just curious - not hating. Do what you gotta do as long as it is in the rules...

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      • #18
        Harkless' situation is actually not uncommon in FIBA tournaments. If I remember correctly, Nick Calathes is a similar situation. Calathes plays for the Greek national team because his great-grandfather was born in Greece, even though he, his parents, and his grandparents were born in the US. There is a whole thread debating this type of situation: http://www.interbasket.net/forums/sh...aturalisations

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Andy7984 View Post
          Harkless' situation is actually not uncommon in FIBA tournaments. If I remember correctly, Nick Calathes is a similar situation. Calathes plays for the Greek national team because his great-grandfather was born in Greece, even though he, his parents, and his grandparents were born in the US. There is a whole thread debating this type of situation: http://www.interbasket.net/forums/sh...aturalisations
          It is pretty crazy and loads of grey area.
          This is from a couple years ago, but an article showing leading up to the 2014 World Cup no less than 66 US born players played for 37 different national teams (than the USA). It is almost free agency.
          http://hoopshype.com/2013/09/04/plen...a-tournaments/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mojo13 View Post
            Is PR even a country? Do you they have separate or distinct citizenship (or any identification) from the US? Or can they really just snag anyone who may have a loose thread or two to the island?
            FIBA Eligibility regulations for dependent territories:

            Special Provisions for Players from Dependent Territories

            25. In order to represent the territory in the Competitions of FIBA or in other international
            competitions organised within their Zones, subject to other following provisions, a player
            must fulfill the following conditions:

            a. Have the legal nationality of the country on which the territory is dependent (the “main
            territory”); and

            b. Have:
            i. been born in the dependent territory; or
            ii. been born in the main territory of at least one parent born in the dependent
            territory; or
            iii. been born of parents both of whom were born in the dependent territory,
            regardless of the place of birth of the player; or
            iv. at least one grandparent who was born in the dependent territory, regardless of
            the place of birth of the player.

            c. Be able to demonstrate traditional or customary residency in the territory.
            Originally posted by Fedfan
            Most ppl get childish when they lose.
            Originally posted by GuTO
            refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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            • #21
              Brazil roster announced.
              No Splitter, Raul Neto, Nene, Barbosa or Varajao.
              I assume this means they are confident they will get the autobid, but see nothing saying they made the payment due on the 31st.

              From Fibaamericas.com website:
              #FIBAAmericas2015 - Magnano convokes the National Team and Marquinhos joins Pan American Champion

              RIO DE JANEIRO (2015 FIBA Americas Championship) - The celebration of the conquest of the Gold Medal at the Pan American Games 2015 was shortened for the Brazilian National Team and their coach Ruben Magnano.

              With one month to go for the 2015 FIBA Americas Championship, the Brazilians began their route to their next continental commitment, by unveiling the list of players that will be part of the Preliminary Squad.

              Keeping most of the players who were in Toronto, the experienced coach added recognized names, such as Marquinhos, to this new stage of the team.

              The Brazilian National Federation has clear intentions for this team.

              "Within the plan prepared by the Technical Department and the Technical Commission of the Brazilian team, the 2015 season will be used to improve the development and the experience of some athletes, already thinking about the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympic Games and the future of the national team.”

              The Brazilians will begin preparing for the FIBA Americas C’ship on August 4 and the first preparatory commitment will be at home in the Super Desafio in Brasilia from August 7- 9.

              The team will then travel to Argentina for the Cuatro Naciones tournament from August 13 - 15.

              The next stop for the Pan American champions will be San Juan, where they will face the national teams of Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico in the Jenaro "Tuto" Marchand Continental Cup, from August 23 to 27.

              After the Tuto Cup, the Brazilians will move to Mexico where they will be part of Group A and will begin their participation in the 2015 FIBA Americas Championship against Uruguay on August 31. In addition, the team will face the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Panama during the First Round of the 2015 FIBA Americas C’ship.

              The 2015 FIBA Americas Championship will qualify the two teams that reach the gold-medal match to the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Olympic Games, while the teams that finish third, fourth and fifth will classify to the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

              Brazilian Preliminary Squad: Derek Evandro Ramos, Larry James Taylor Júnior, Ricardo Fischer, Rafael Freire Luz, Vitor Alves Benite, Danilo Fuzaro Siqueira, Leonardo Simões Meindl, Marcus Vinicius Vieira de Souza “Marquinhos”, Carlos Alexandre Rodrigues do Nascimento “Olivinha”, Marcus Vinicius Urban Toledo dos Reis, Augusto Cesar de Lima Brito, João Paulo Lopes Batista, Rafael Ferreira de Souza, Rafael Hettsheimeir, Ronald Rudson Rodrigues dos Reis.
              - See more at: http://www.fibaamericas.com/en/notic....RGL0WNVE.dpuf

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              • #22
                Venezuela and Mexico are playing in the Stankovic Cup in China, but it seems like B team rosters for both. Mexico beat China 92-80 in their first game while Venezuela lost 72-65 against New Zealand.
                Originally posted by Fedfan
                Most ppl get childish when they lose.
                Originally posted by GuTO
                refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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                • #23
                  Argentina preliminary roster announced.
                  Similar to PanAms with the addition of Scola, Nocioni, Campazzo and Safar. No Delfino (hurt) no Ginobili (too old)...anyone else of substance missing?


                  FIBAAmericas2015 - Argentina in fine fettle as veterans join squad
                  8/4/2015


                  BUENOS AIRES (2015 FIBA Americas Championship) - Argentina did not make it to the podium of the Pan American Games but the national team nevertheless has an extra bounce in its step with the FIBA Americas Championship in Mexico City less than a month away.

                  Stalwarts Luis Scola and Andres Nocioni were missing in Toronto but are now with the squad, along with Facundo Campazzo and Selem Safar.

                  All four were members of last year's squad at the FIBA Basketball World Cup in
                  Spain, where Argentina made it to the Round of 16.

                  Argentina coach Sergio Hernandez was left encouraged by what he saw from the latest training session.

                  "I thought it would be much more of a grind and that I would have to intervene many more times," Hernandez said.

                  "But it went very smoothly.

                  "I am very happy with what we are doing."

                  Argentina have a coupe of warm-up games coming up in Brasilia against the Brazil and Uruguay, games that will be played 7 and 9 August.

                  Hernandez's side will then take part in a four-team tournament 14- 15 August in Tecnópolis, Brazil, Mexico and Venezuela participating.

                  Argentina take on Uruguay in another friendly in Buenos Aires two days later before traveling to San Juan, Puerto Rico, for more games.

                  Brazil, Canada, the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico will be present with the Argentinians.

                  Hernandez's Argentina will play in Group B at the FIBA Americas Championship (31 August - 12 September) against Canada, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Venezuela.

                  The sides that reach the Final of the even will clinch places in the Rio de Janeiro Games while the teams that come in third, fourth and fifth will claim berths in the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

                  Argentina preliminary squad: Federico Aguerre, Nicolas Aguirre, Matias Bortolin, Nicolas Brussino, Facundo Campazzo, Gabriel Deck, Marcos Delia, Pablo Espinoza, Tayavek Gallizi, Patricio Garino, Franco Giorgetti, Nicolas Laprovittola, Leo Mainoldi, Marcos Mata, Andres Nocioni, Nicolas Richotti, Selem Safar, Luis Scola, Juan Manuel Torres and Luca Vildoza.

                  Go to fiba.com/Americas2015 for more coverage of the 2015 FIBA Americas Championship.
                  - See more at: http://www.fibaamericas.com/en/notic....yNrmPf3e.dpuf

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                  • #24
                    Uruguay beat Argentina 84-78 in the opening game of a tournament that also includes Brazil. Argentina rested some of their better players:


                    Puerto Rico is hosting Louisville for a few games next week:
                    Originally posted by Fedfan
                    Most ppl get childish when they lose.
                    Originally posted by GuTO
                    refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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                    • #25
                      good news for all other FIBA americas teams as FIBA has granted the autobid to Brazil.
                      Not surprising.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mojo13 View Post
                        good news for all other FIBA americas teams as FIBA has granted the autobid to Brazil.
                        Not surprising.
                        Canada's my favorite to take the most advantage of this, but we'll see how it goes.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dtown View Post
                          Canada's my favorite to take the most advantage of this, but we'll see how it goes.
                          Yeah, I would also say Canada is the favorite. Cuba is the next favorite. Both Canada and Cuba played with their full senior national team at the recent Pan Am games where Canada finished 1st and Cuba finished 3rd.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JGX View Post
                            Uruguay beat Argentina 84-78 in the opening game of a tournament that also includes Brazil. Argentina rested some of their better players:

                            ]
                            Brazil beat Uruguay 83-81 and Argentina 67-61 to win the tournament.
                            Originally posted by Fedfan
                            Most ppl get childish when they lose.
                            Originally posted by GuTO
                            refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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                            • #29
                              Canada named a 16-man Training Camp Roster. The main absence is Thompson who is signing a one-year qualifying offer with the Cavs:

                              Originally posted by Fedfan
                              Most ppl get childish when they lose.
                              Originally posted by GuTO
                              refs in games of Spain walks with literally poop in his pants afraid of the Spanish players

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JGX View Post
                                Canada named a 16-man Training Camp Roster. The main absence is Thompson who is signing a one-year qualifying offer with the Cavs:

                                http://basketball.ca/en/news-article...aining-camp-ro
                                Good talent but young and inexperienced in fiba.


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                                Mississauga, ON
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                                Doornekamp, Aaron
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                                Odessa, ON
                                Braunschweig (Germany)

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                                Toronto, ON
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                                Pickering, ON
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                                Murray, Jamal
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                                6'3
                                Kitchener, ON
                                University of Kentucky (NCAA)

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                                Mississauga, ON
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