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Thread: 2015 28th FIBA Asia Championship

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    Quote Originally Posted by locdogjr View Post
    Just wanted to hop on and say how incredibly stupid it is that Saturday, of all days, no games were scheduled! Isn't this the day that fans could really take in all of the action?!
    Well, that's how the games are scheduled. The Final will be scheduled on Saturday, though.
    Me when Gilas finished dead last in the World Cup and Wesley So won a Chess championship for the United States instead of the Philippines:

    Sige basketball pa, kulelat naman sa World Cup. Kaya tayo ipinagpalit ni Wesley So sa Amerika eh.

    Are we Filipinos still on about basketball when we finished dead last at the World Cup? No wonder Wesley So left us for the States.

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    Of course that is how they were scheduled, but why not move the dates slightly so we get weekends full of action? Wouldn't that be the best way to increase viewership?
    Just make a Thursday or a Monday the day off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by locdogjr View Post
    Of course that is how they were scheduled, but why not move the dates slightly so we get weekends full of action? Wouldn't that be the best way to increase viewership?
    Just make a Thursday or a Monday the day off?
    Oh yes, like the one in Manila in 2013. But this is China we're talking about, a country with a different culture than the West and lots of hardworking people. Pretty much the only reason why you schedule host games at 7.30pm everyday with no regard to weekends.

    I think Chinese forumers can answer better than me on this.

    Anyways, care to join our little prediction game on the link in my sig? Only 2 players from outside Asia atm, one from Lithuania, the other from USA.
    Me when Gilas finished dead last in the World Cup and Wesley So won a Chess championship for the United States instead of the Philippines:

    Sige basketball pa, kulelat naman sa World Cup. Kaya tayo ipinagpalit ni Wesley So sa Amerika eh.

    Are we Filipinos still on about basketball when we finished dead last at the World Cup? No wonder Wesley So left us for the States.

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    Sure, I'll check it out now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    And lebanon and trey johnson make enzo flojo eat his words.. too bad enzo is an ibn er and power rankings thing originated here
    That's the thing... these power rankings didn't really mean much... cuz if you looked at the preparations of the Lebanese NT for example they were quite horrible especially in the last month were no games were played by the Lebanese NT and it was just a long training camp in Lebanon... but when it comes to reality the Lebanese league is one of the best in Asia and individual skills are quite good for the Lebanese players... Only problems that are lacking are chemistry, experience and playing more preparatory games before this championship... On a positive note.. now that Fadi Khatib is no longer playing with the NT this team is much more difficult to scout and we are not relying on just 1 player to carry the team... we have a group of players who can step up when required.. and I'm happy that this team is being able to perform without the services of Khatib since many people were saying that the team is doomed without him on the team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    That's the thing... these power rankings didn't really mean much... cuz if you looked at the preparations of the Lebanese NT for example they were quite horrible especially in the last month were no games were played by the Lebanese NT and it was just a long training camp in Lebanon... but when it comes to reality the Lebanese league is one of the best in Asia and individual skills are quite good for the Lebanese players... Only problems that are lacking are chemistry, experience and playing more preparatory games before this championship... On a positive note.. now that Fadi Khatib is no longer playing with the NT this team is much more difficult to scout and we are not relying on just 1 player to carry the team... we have a group of players who can step up when required.. and I'm happy that this team is being able to perform without the services of Khatib since many people were saying that the team is doomed without him on the team
    OT: I like it that your team is doing fine even without Fadi, how much more if you have him now. You can possibly beat Korea and China to top Group F with Fadi.

    Also, Wael Arakji just might be the face of the future for Lebanese basketball. He may be prone to rookie mistakes due to lack of experience, but he will get better over time.
    Last edited by judasmartel; 09-26-2015 at 06:18 AM.
    Me when Gilas finished dead last in the World Cup and Wesley So won a Chess championship for the United States instead of the Philippines:

    Sige basketball pa, kulelat naman sa World Cup. Kaya tayo ipinagpalit ni Wesley So sa Amerika eh.

    Are we Filipinos still on about basketball when we finished dead last at the World Cup? No wonder Wesley So left us for the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    Cuz if you looked at the preparations of the Lebanese NT for example they were quite horrible especially in the last month were no games were played by the Lebanese NT and it was just a long training camp in Lebanon
    Dear Khalid with all due respect, I have to say that if you compare your situation to ours you're gonna be really happy with what the Lebanese basketball has been through.

    The head of Iranian basketball federation just got elected 4 months ago and the head goach Dirk Bauermann got the team under his supervision just 70 days before the tournament began.
    Add the Arsalan Kazemi dilemma and you'll get a clear view of what Iran has been through this 3 months.

    On the other hand i can hardly believe your financial problems were as severe as Iran's. Other wise you wouldn't be using a naturalized player and a foriegn coach.

    Not playing in the Jones Cup was mostly because Matic prefers to go in the dark when it is close to a major tournament, he insisted on not joining such tournaments while being in Iran but the federation usually over ruled his opinions.

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    Our team also had problems. Team trained only for 7 weeks under new coach and new system and a lot of players declined to play for.the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behzadir View Post
    Dear Khalid with all due respect, I have to say that if you compare your situation to ours you're gonna be really happy with what the Lebanese basketball has been through.

    The head of Iranian basketball federation just got elected 4 months ago and the head goach Dirk Bauermann got the team under his supervision just 70 days before the tournament began.
    Add the Arsalan Kazemi dilemma and you'll get a clear view of what Iran has been through this 3 months.

    On the other hand i can hardly believe your financial problems were as severe as Iran's. Other wise you wouldn't be using a naturalized player and a foriegn coach.

    Not playing in the Jones Cup was mostly because Matic prefers to go in the dark when it is close to a major tournament, he insisted on not joining such tournaments while being in Iran but the federation usually over ruled his opinions.
    Yet your team is still dominating the competition and is still the heavy favorite to win the gold. That's why your team is awesome.
    Me when Gilas finished dead last in the World Cup and Wesley So won a Chess championship for the United States instead of the Philippines:

    Sige basketball pa, kulelat naman sa World Cup. Kaya tayo ipinagpalit ni Wesley So sa Amerika eh.

    Are we Filipinos still on about basketball when we finished dead last at the World Cup? No wonder Wesley So left us for the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behzadir View Post
    Dear Khalid with all due respect, I have to say that if you compare your situation to ours you're gonna be really happy with what the Lebanese basketball has been through.

    The head of Iranian basketball federation just got elected 4 months ago and the head goach Dirk Bauermann got the team under his supervision just 70 days before the tournament began.
    Add the Arsalan Kazemi dilemma and you'll get a clear view of what Iran has been through this 3 months.

    On the other hand i can hardly believe your financial problems were as severe as Iran's. Other wise you wouldn't be using a naturalized player and a foriegn coach.

    Not playing in the Jones Cup was mostly because Matic prefers to go in the dark when it is close to a major tournament, he insisted on not joining such tournaments while being in Iran but the federation usually over ruled his opinions.
    Behzadir jahn, I totally understand what you're saying... With regards to financial problems.. well we went for the most convenient or least costly for us Cuz the federation talked to much better coaches (like Elias Zouros for example) and the first option for naturalization was Eli Holman who played in CBA these last couple of years and was one of the top big guys playing there... Also since Fadi Khatib didn't joint the team this meant that the federation didn't have to cover his insurance which wasn't a small amount so they used this money instead for Jay Youngblood and to pay the penalties from withdrawing from Asian Championship for woman.

    About Jay Youngblood, what's good about him is that he's been playing in the Lebanese league for the last 5 years so he knows all the players quite well and could easily adapt to the team even if he didn't work out with the NT this summer and joined the team directly in China

    Regarding Matic, yeah it's true.. It seems he's the type that doesn't like to show any of his cards.. and it's working cuz this Lebanese team is quite difficult to scout especially considering that there are 8 players who are playing for the first time with the Lebanese NT.. So maybe by this he helped the federation save money from not playing in these tournaments even though most of the fans and basketball analysts and critics were against this

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    Imagine a triple-tie in the group E between Qatar , Jordan and Lebanon..
    what will happen? it will depend on quotient? if yes why last edition why Tapei was behind Philippines while they had a better points difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamartine View Post
    Imagine a triple-tie in the group E between Qatar , Jordan and Lebanon..
    what will happen? it will depend on quotient? if yes why last edition why Tapei was behind Philippines while they had a better points difference
    points difference among the three teams involved. PHI was +5, TPE was +2 and QAT was -7.

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    Day 4

    Iran 111:56 Hong Kong China
    India 73:70 Palestine
    South Korea 85:71 Lebanon
    Philippines 73:66 Japan
    Kuwait 83:61 Malaysia
    China 75:62 Kazakhstan
    Jordan 84:73 Qatar
    Chinese Taipei 111:65 Singapore

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    Day 5

    India 76:71 Hong Kong China
    Philippines 87:73 Iran
    Japan 74:67 Palestine
    Qatar 69:63 South Korea
    Singapore 92:59 Malaysia
    China 90:72 Lebanon
    Chinese Taipei 99:69 Kuwait
    Jordan 87:73 Kazakhstan

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    Day 6

    Iran 94:48 Palestine
    Japan 89:62 Hong Kong China
    Philippines 99:65 India
    Lebanon 80:76 Jordan
    China 89:65 Qatar
    South Korea 79:63 Kazakhstan

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    Day 7

    Jordan 82:62 Hong Kong China
    Palestine 83:81 Kazakhstan
    Iran 75:62 South Korea
    Japan 81:67 Qatar
    China 104:58 India
    Philippines 82:70 Lebanon

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    Day 8

    Kazakhstan 68:62 Hong Kong China
    Jordan 94:82 Palestine
    South Korea 117:72 India
    Lebanon 89:86 Qatar
    China 70:57 Iran
    Philippines 81:70 Japan

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    Day 9

    Qatar 84:58 India
    Lebanon 88:87 South Korea
    Iran 68:63 Japan
    China 78:67 Philippines

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