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    I hope this helps...from http://www.rappler.com/sports/univer...every-position

    Centers

    1. Charles Mammie UE 13.9ppg, 17.4rpg, 1.0spg 40.1 EFF
    2. Emmanuel Mbe NU 16.8ppg, 11.6rpg, 1.2spg 39.5 EFF
    3. Karim Abdul UST 14.8ppg, 11.5rpg, 1.5bpg, 1.3spg 38.1 EFF
    4. Arnold Van Opstal DLSU 11.0ppg, 6.7rpg 29.5 EFF
    5. Ingrid Sewa ADU 9.0ppg, 9.1rpg, 1.3bpg 28.6 EFF

    Power Forwards

    1. Chris Newsome ADMU 13.4ppg, 7.9rpg 32.7 EFF
    2. Jason Perkins DLSU 11.0ppg, 8.4rpg 30.8 EFF
    3. Rodney Brondial ADU 8.8ppg, 10.4rpg, 1.7bpg 30.4 EFF
    4. Aljon Mariano UST 11.5ppg, 7.0rpg 30.1 EFF
    5. Chris Ball UP 6.9ppg, 9.0rpg 24.7 EFF

    TOP WINGMAN. Teng is the UAAP's best small forward.

    Small Forwards

    1. Jeron Teng DLSU 14.1ppg, 6.9rpg, 3.2apg 30.1 EFF
    2. Ryan Buenafe ADMU 11.8ppg, 8.1rpg, 3.4apg, 1.1spg 29.8 EFF
    3. Kevin Ferrer UST 13.3ppg, 7.0rpg 29.7 EFF
    4. Mac Belo FEU 8.7ppg, 7.0rpg 26.4 EFF
    5. Sam Marata UP 14.4ppg, 3.9rpg 25.6 EFF

    Shooting Guards

    1. Ray Parks NU 17.2ppg, 8.7rpg, 4.2apg, 1.0spg 38.5 EFF
    2. Terrence Romeo FEU 19.8ppg, 5.8rpg, 3.8apg, 1.6spg 35.8 EFF
    3. Almond Vosotros DLSU 15.0ppg, 5.3rpg, 1.1spg 29.8 EFF
    4. Jericho Cruz ADU 15.9ppg, 4.6rpg, 3.4apg, 1.2spg 29.0 EFF
    5. Mike Tolomia FEU 9.4ppg, 4.8rpg, 3.7apg 23.1 EFF

    SPEEDSTER. Sumang is not only the fastest, but he's the top playmaker in the UAAP.

    Point Guards

    1. Roi Sumang UE 19.1ppg, 5.5rpg, 4.8apg, 1.1spg 37.6 EFF
    2. RR Garcia FEU 13.9ppg, 3.9rpg, 1.2spg 29.0 EFF
    3. Juami Tiongson ADMU 11.9ppg, 3.5rpg 25.3 EFF
    4. Ed Daquioag UST 8.9ppg, 4.8rpg 23.2 EFF
    5. Gelo Alolino NU 7.2ppg, 5.1rpg, 5.0apg 22.3 EFF

    Newcomers

    1. Charles Mammie UE 13.9ppg, 17.4rpg, 1.0spg 40.1 EFF
    2. Chris Newsome AdMU 13.4ppg, 7.9rpg 32.7 EFF
    3. Jason Perkins DLSU 11.0ppg, 8.4rpg 30.8 EFF
    4. Ingrid Sewa AdU 9.0ppg, 9.1rpg, 1.3bpg 28.6 EFF
    5. Kyles Lao UP 8.4ppg, 2.1rpg 21.0 EFF
    *It is worth noting that Kyles Lao is the only “true rookie” on this list.

    ULTIMATE SCORER. Romeo has learned to pile points in a variety of ways.

    UAAP SEASON 76 STAT LEADERS

    Points


    Terrence Romeo FEU 19.8
    Roi Sumang UE 19.1
    Ray Parks NU 17.2
    Emmanuel Mbe NU 16.8
    Jericho Cruz ADU 15.9
    Rebounds

    Charles Mammie UE 17.4
    Emmanuel Mbe NU 11.6
    Karim Abdul UST 11.5
    Rodney Brondial ADU 10.4
    Raul Soyud UP 10.0
    PLAYMAKER. Alolino leads the UAAP in assists. Photo by Rappler/Josh Albelda.

    Assists

    Gelo Alolino NU 5.0
    Roi Sumang UE 4.8
    Bobby Ray Parks NU 4.2
    Thomas Torres DLSU 3.9
    Terrence Romeo FEU 3.8

    Steals

    Terrence Romeo FEU 1.6
    Karim Abdul UST 1.3
    Jericho Cruz ADU 1.2
    Emmanuel Mbe NU 1.2
    RR Garcia FEU 1.2
    Blocks

    Rodney Brondial ADU 1.7
    Karim Abdul UST 1.5
    Christian Sentcheu FEU 1.4
    Ingrid Sewa ADU 1.3
    Raul Soyud UP 1.1
    Field Goal Shooting (at least 15 FGM)

    Ingrid Sewa ADU 61.2%
    Glenn Khobuntin NU 58.6%
    Arnold Van Opstal DLSU 56.7%
    Emmanuel Mbe NU 53.3%
    Jason Perkins DLSU 48.7%
    3-Point Shooting (at least 7 3PTM)

    Gryann Mendoza FEU 43.8%
    Robin Roño NU 38.1%
    Harry Petilos ADU 38.1%
    Juami Tiongson ADMU 37.2%
    Ralf Olivares UE 34.6%
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    How about putting all PBA's sophomores and rookies on SBP protected list of national pool members. They must be readily available to national duty without refusal.

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    Cadets

    NCAA: Amer, Nimes, Racal, Dela Cruz, Almazan
    UAAP: Sumang, Parks, Ferrer, Mariano, AVO

    A PBA D-League flavored national team aint bad also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhinov View Post
    A PBA D-League flavored national team aint bad also.
    Isn't that N-Lex

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    I think they need to add a pingris type of player. Rodney Brondial I think will fit the bill. A good rebounder and blocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotch View Post
    I envy the South Korean basketball federation on how they go about their feeder program, and youth development. In the last FIBA Asia tournament, they had a mix of pros and college players, and paraded a couple of young centers, one a 6'9 19 y.o. and another, slightly older center of the same height. Their top gunner was just a college player, albeit an "old college player" at 24.

    It goes to show us, their system and style of basketball from the youth programs up to the pros are so consistent, it's almost seamless when the players transition from a level to another level.
    Does that suggest that schools & corporations in South Korea which are involved in basketball aren't as greedy & unpatriotic as what we have here in the Philippines.

    Let's say South Korea's grassroots program as well as from the way players transition from one level to another is way way better than what we have here in the Phi., but I think SBP can copy such program anytime. Question is, how do we get the cooperation of the stakeholders (schools, PBA D-league & even the PBA) to make such program possible.?

    In the recent FIBA-Asia Championship for instance, Korea paraded two 19-year old players & two 22-year old players. Most likely those young players are still in college or if not, they're still in the developmental league (like our PBA D-league). Yet they were allowed by their schools &/or developmental league teams to join the national team. Something which most likely will not happen in Phi. basketball. If ever, had Chot named Kiefer Ravena or Rayray Parks to Gilas-2, would Ateneo & NU allow them to play for the Philippine team knowing that the training & the actual competition would conflict the UAAP season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    they can adjust their calendar...they already did it for fiba asia. the ncaa won't really lose anyone since almazan is already graduating and other than him they don't have any other player to lend so far.
    Could it be that they did that because we were the host of such a prestigious tournament? Would they do that again to give way to our participation in the Asian Games- a tournament not as prestigious as the FIBA-Asia Championship (as far as basketball is concerned) and we are not the host?
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    In other countries, they do not stop just because basketball is happening.

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    SEA Games will be on December so as soon the UAAP and NCAA season finishes SBP must form a team soonest as possible.
    They can tap the Fil-Ams playing in the ASEAN Basketball League plus new batch of cadet players.

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    They can even tap Fil-Am Avery Scharer who just signed up with Malaysia Dragons. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilWelsh View Post
    They can even tap Fil-Am Avery Scharer who just signed up with Malaysia Dragons. . .
    6"3 point guard?

    Read his story, hope he can make it to the PBA.

    Btw, to those watching ABL, how is Justin Melton and the tall guy? Holstien?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstopaball12 View Post
    How is Vosotros better than him? Im a lassalian and have seen vosotros play for 4 years already. He has an inconsistent stroke from 3 and has no playmaking,slashing skill whatsoever. Sumang I'd agree is better than him, while Ill be honest i havent watch alolino that seriously, but in the case of sumang. You already have Romeo,Parks and Ravena. You need a distributor not another scorer to the team. This is a TEAM not an All-star team. Huge difference.
    well, vosotros is a better offensive player at this point but i agree that he's more of a 2...a willie miller type. Amer is a steady point guard but he's not as good as people thought he would be or he was projected to be. remember in HS he was an MVP. not only can he setup his team, he can score a lot too...that's why he was often compared to kiefer. But now we can surely agree that napagiwanan na sya ni ravena. remember our national team has always had point guards who not only can be floor generals but can score too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilWelsh View Post
    They can even tap Fil-Am Avery Scharer who just signed up with Malaysia Dragons. . .
    The now age-old question: eligibility, sir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    The now age-old question: eligibility, sir?
    pretty sure the SEA games and asian games would allow these guys being brought up...FIBA is a different monster though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    pretty sure the SEA games and asian games would allow these guys being brought up...FIBA is a different monster though.
    Are they wiling to invest on players that may not be eligible for FIBA though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Are they wiling to invest on players that may not be eligible for FIBA though?
    My point exactly. Is this a PBA prospect or a FIBA prospect?

    Their being Fiipinos have some use for us basketball wise but because of Hagop, we'll forever ask the all-important question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotch View Post
    I envy the South Korean basketball federation on how they go about their feeder program, and youth development. In the last FIBA Asia tournament, they had a mix of pros and college players, and paraded a couple of young centers, one a 6'9 19 y.o. and another, slightly older center of the same height. Their top gunner was just a college player, albeit an "old college player" at 24.

    It goes to show us, their system and style of basketball from the youth programs up to the pros are so consistent, it's almost seamless when the players transition from a level to another level.
    Are you talking about Kim Min Goo or Kim Min Sung? Becaues Mingoo is just 22.
    Credit goes to CKR13 for this! Thanks so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by killmebusy View Post
    sadly, i think it's come to a point that amer is overrated. he's at par with gelo alolino now only that he has a better outside shot. sumang and vosotros are better than him.
    Oh come on now. Out of all our players in DLSU, the ones I hate the most are Jeron "Brick Machine" Teng and Almond "Machine Gun" Vosotros. If there was a contest to see who could shoot more bricks between him and Jeron, we'd be able to build a house in less than a day. HATE his game. Absolitely HATE it. I don't hate the guy but he's an undersized SG that shoots WAY too much. Sabi ko nga sa friend ko e, when DLSU was losing in the 1st round, nag aagawang buko sila Almond and Jeron. Those guys can't play team ball. All they do is shoot and play 1 on 1 (when they're really not that good anyway).

    Anyway, thank God for Jason Perkins. He's been DLSU's most consistent player (he's gotten better throughout the tourney) and IMO, their best player. Jeron has the name and the claim to fame, but Perk is the one that actually produces and helps DLSU play good TEAM basketball. Too bad he's an undersized 6'2 PF. He's a poor man's Joe DeVance.
    Credit goes to CKR13 for this! Thanks so much!

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    here's my all amateur pool:

    Centers: Slaughter 7' / Van Opstal 6'9 / N.Torres 6'8 / J. Erram 6'7

    Forward/Centers: Almazan 6'7 / Sanggalang 6'7 / Brondial 6'6 / Rosario 6'7

    Forwards: Salva 6'4 / Ferrer 6'4 / Newsome 6'2 / Ganuelas 6'4 / Perkins 6'3

    Guards: Parks 6'3 / Marata 6'2 / J. Teng 6'2 / J. Cruz 6'1 / J. Pascual 6'3

    P.Guards: Sumang 5'8 / Romeo 5'10 / RR Garcia 5'9 / Ravena 5'10 / Alas 6''


    I just hope all these players would be available to play for the national team specially the big guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex07 View Post
    here's my all amateur pool:

    Centers: Slaughter 7' / Van Opstal 6'9 / N.Torres 6'8

    Forward/Centers: Almazan 6'7 / Sanggalang 6'7 / Brondial 6'6

    Forwards: Salva 6'4 / Ferrer 6'4 / Newsome 6'2

    Guards: Parks 6'3 / Marata 6'2 / J. Teng 6'2 / J. Cruz 6'1

    P.Guards: Sumang 5'8 / Romeo 5'10 / RR Garcia 5'9 / Ravena 5'10

    Some 4-5 players there are declaring for the pros.
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