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    Tim Duncan(Mr. Fundamental)

    Duncan played the game that time forgot.

    He had New York Knick Bill Bradley’s elbow jumper and Boston Celtic Sam Jones’ understanding of trajectories and angles when it came to using the glass. He had Celtic Bill Russell’s incredible economy of movement – knowing when to rest, when to explode, exactly how many steps he had to slide over to rotate to someone else’s man. And, yes, he possessed the fundamentals of a certain hick from French Lick.

    “I was probably 80 percent talent, 20 percent fundamental. Tim Duncan was 80 percent fundamental and 20 percent talent. And he got five rings and I got four. That still bugs the s— out of me.”

    “Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward to ever play the game – period,” Shaquille O’Neal said Monday after hearing Duncan had retired. “He is family – in the family of the greatest big men of all time.”

    O’Neal continued, “I don’t think anyone ever saw him as not being black. I just think we are all products of our own environments. He grew up on an island surrounded by water and became a swimmer. When I go to the Bahamas, I hardly ever see gold chains and tattoos and braids. It is a different world. But it didn’t take long for Tim to be accepted in our world because of who he was as a solid dude and an unbelievable player.”

    “I called him The Big Fundamental because his fundamental skills were perfect,” O’Neal said. “I put him in the same category as Larry Bird. Larry Bird didn’t run fast or jump high, but he’d eat you alive with his fundamentals. That’s what Tim Duncan,

    Mentally and physically, he was deceptively tough. Every bit of credibility earned came from his excellence over time. Nineteen years, 19 playoff appearances. How many times had the Spurs been written off with Old Man Riverwalk trudging up the floor like an octogenarian at a Saturday Y game? How many times did Duncan defy what you thought about him and his ability to be so good for so long?

    “That’s what I’ll always remember about him – he just kept coming back, no matter what,” O’Neal said. “I really think about it, he was a cross between Bird and Hakeem [Olajuwon].

    “Hakeem, you couldn’t break ’em. You could ‘bow him, talk s—, you could play rough, he would just come back and give you his best. Tim was the same way. It didn’t matter what I said. What I did. You could never get to him. I would give him 30 one night and he would come back the next night and give me 30.

    “Nothing could break him. He fundamentally earned all our respect.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by silent killer View Post
    have a good night sir.. Enjoy your night.. Watch some cory chase porn if you want..
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Still that's a big claim for a 17 year old to be "more skilled" than Pozingis or 17 yr old Pozingis, This forum is actually tamed, if one made the same statement is any other forum expect worst!

    Use the same words and statements he mentioned will receive flak, it isn't because people are sensitive or anything, they're really statements that invite a reaction

    And yes who's really putting words in people's mouth really? Who brought up the NZ stuff out of nowhere, or suggestions I was putting down Kai or something (how does predicring he will enter the NBA as undrafted or 2nd round count as putting down( those are the things I'm being accused off)

    Anyway Im all good, I've been called worse things, sanay naman ako.. And I actually haven't called anyone names or anything, not once. All these personal stuff doesn't really matter to me anyway
    That's his view, if that's what he saw. What if it's big claim? It's not as if he is saying thay bonel balingit is better than Shaq. Get back to him when Kai fail. But as of now no one really knows if Kai will be successful or not.

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    BTW I observe that Kai is quicker in todays's game compare to his past games. And he's less flat footed while running in this game. Maganda yata gising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidey102279 View Post
    That's his view, if that's what he saw. What if it's big claim?.
    Nothing wrong other than it's expected to elicit a reaction. and true enough it did, it's not that the people are overlly critical in this forum. One should not be suprise when making a big claim statement to elicit a proportionate equal big response. It's just normal. why fault people for reacting. afterall this is a forum the elicits a reaction , not a one way communication thing , where people can say anything and hope no one responds or reacts.

    It's nothing personal, I mean if i predicted that AJ is sure to be the next Giannis, while of course I'm entitled to share that view , it would be gulable for me not to expect a huge reaction and likely criticisim. it really comes with the teritory if one makes bold statements ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Nothing wrong other than it's expected to elicit a reaction. and true enough it did, it's not that the people are overlly critical in this forum. One should not be suprise when making a big claim statement to elicit a proportionate equal big response. It's just normal. why fault people for reacting. afterall this is a forum the elicits a reaction , not a one way communication thing , where people can say anything and hope no one responds or reacts.

    It's nothing personal, I mean if i predicted that AJ is sure to be the next Giannis, while of course I'm entitled to share that view , it would be gulable for me not to expect a huge reaction and likely criticisim. it really comes with the teritory if one makes bold statements ..
    AJ Edu = Giannis
    Kai >>> KP
    I'm back. Don't ask why. Just be glad.

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    Just give AJ Edu a few more months to develop and he will be better then Giannis. His offensive skillset is already way better then Giannis, Durant, Garnett and Lebron. His defensive instincts are already superior to Scotty Pippen and Ben Wallace. I guarantee that he will be a first round pick when he declares for the NBA draft, and will bet with anyone on this forum. If I'm wrong I will gladly stop posting on this site. Who wants to take up my bet?
    I will grade myself as an optimist and a realist. For the record i would say, kai is way more skilled OFFENSIVELY than duncan, yao, aldridge, kp. etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capitantiago View Post
    AJ Edu = Giannis
    Kai >>> KP
    Panopio > CP3
    Kobe Paras = Luka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotch View Post
    Panopio > CP3
    Kobe Paras = Luka
    And when you continue down the list it get's hilarious

    Greg = Tacko , ganoon ba yun
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    And when you continue down the list it get's hilarious

    Greg = Tacko , ganoon ba yun
    This is the only one I will dis agree with.lol.

    Remember Tacko average 48 points and 36 rebounds in 36 minutes.��������.

    Tacko>Greg

    But all the others are correct��

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    its like 10 years ago since the trio of greg, junmar and japhet was being sought after to reinforce the ph frontline , now the emergence of the new bigs of ph basketball kai , aj , carl and geo will assure us that our frontline is well covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deviant View Post
    its like 10 years ago since the trio of greg, junmar and japhet was being sought after to reinforce the ph frontline , now the emergence of the new bigs of ph basketball kai , aj , carl and geo will assure us that our frontline is well covered.
    Kai's offensive feel and AJs defensive attributes makes quite a different prospect for Gilas as compared the trio a decade ago.
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    Won't be surprised incase Geo makes a case as a solid center for future Philippine teams. He will also be the most available to train in the country since Kai and AJ will shoot for US and Europe.

    Plus the trio of Kai, AJ and Geo are FIBA exposed since their teenage years. Hoping that Tamayo(and his coaches) decides soon on what position he will play.
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    https://alaskasportshall.org/2020/01...art-for-texas/

    Good choice for instant Naturalization (no Congress needed)
    We're good with him to complete big men Trio of Kai and AJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    https://alaskasportshall.org/2020/01...art-for-texas/

    Good choice for instant Naturalization (no Congress needed)
    We're good with him to complete big men Trio of Kai and AJ
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think with Hepa, the question was his willingness to be a part of our program right?

    Anyway, his body has matured lately. He's filled out and is very physical. Howver, he's being used more like a stretch-4 or a small-ball 5 instead of a playmaking 3. Hope he can still develop his guard skills, but it's looking like UT has other plans for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurklurk View Post
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think with Hepa, the question was his willingness to be a part of our program right?

    Anyway, his body has matured lately. He's filled out and is very physical. Howver, he's being used more like a stretch-4 or a small-ball 5 instead of a playmaking 3. Hope he can still develop his guard skills, but it's looking like UT has other plans for him.
    Yup, Hepa is another one of those bigs with good court vision. I think his guard skills would not abandon him as he had it early in his arsenal. It would develop naturally the more he hits the gym and play the game. I hope he stays as the starter as he seems to thrive in the first 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    Kai's offensive feel and AJs defensive attributes makes quite a different prospect for Gilas as compared the trio a decade ago.
    very different indeed , it might be that the game evolve for the new kids. btw i was just pointing out that a decade or so the available quality big guys for the national team is not that abundant compare to now.

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    I don't know who will televise this year's National Collegiate Championship (former PCCL), but this will be our chance of seeing Dwight Ramos of Ateneo for the first time playing in the Philippines.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    Even if he doesn't make it, I hope Gilas keeps Ping at least as a presence in the locker room for the younger guys

    https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/m...l-gilas/178653

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