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    Default Lebanese National Team 2015 - Road to Rio de Janeiro 2016

    We need a new federation as soon as possible, a federation that is capable of solving all the problems within the next few months.
    - New Federation
    - Do all the steps required to lift the FIBA ban
    - Build a professional league
    - A Plan for all the National Teams (Senior, Women, Youth)

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    I know its still early, but probably these players will be the core of the team:
    Rodrigue, Wael, Amir, Ahmad, Bawji and Haidar.

    We need to draw a plan that includes nationalizing a young center, hopefully the ban be lifted as soon as possible and the preparations will start from Summer 2014 by competing in FIBA Asia Cup.




    The Dream of winning Asia Championship (2015) and playing in the Olympic games (2016).

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    the khatib era is over, we arent making another world cup anytime soon..

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    I also hope we get a legit coach, not one mahsoub 3a shi fari2 siyasi m3ayin ( hint hint ghassan sarkis ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by koreandragon View Post
    the khatib era is over, we arent making another world cup anytime soon..
    We'll miss fadi for sure, but there's some young talents like Ahmad Ibrahim and Amir Soaud with some experience within the next few years, they can lead us to compete in Asia again and qualify to World Cup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaledlebanon View Post
    We'll miss fadi for sure, but there's some young talents like Ahmad Ibrahim and Amir Soaud with some experience within the next few years, they can lead us to compete in Asia again and qualify to World Cup!
    I agree. Plus we have many other great future prospects as well. Ali Haidar & Wael Arakji are two great players who they still have alot to add to their game.
    I think Ghaleb, Sabah, Matt, Omar El Turk & Rony are done for the NT. As for Daniel he's been very consistent with his injuries..not sure though. And who knows...we might discover new talented players in this two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavrick_h View Post
    I agree. Plus we have many other great future prospects as well. Ali Haidar & Wael Arakji are two great players who they still have alot to add to their game.
    I think Ghaleb, Sabah, Matt, Omar El Turk & Rony are done for the NT. As for Daniel he's been very consistent with his injuries..not sure though. And who knows...we might discover new talented players in this two years.
    Agree about Omar, Sabah, Rony, Galeb, Matt etc... I just mentioned the top players from last season to give a general idea... We need to wait for next season to see if Daniel can be good enough after his long-term injury, he's still young (26) and would be very helpful maybe as a backup C.
    As you said, within the next 2 years new talents should be discovered...
    Rodrigue, Wael, Amir, Ahmad, Bawji, Haidar... would make a great NT with a Nationalized young Center!
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    Quote Originally Posted by khaledlebanon View Post
    We'll miss fadi for sure, but there's some young talents like Ahmad Ibrahim and Amir Soaud with some experience within the next few years, they can lead us to compete in Asia again and qualify to World Cup!
    True that..... lots of talents.... but the question is.... is there anyone able to invest in them ?!
    Long Live Lebanon !! (Except All the Corrupted Citizens and All the Politicians!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
    True that..... lots of talents.... but the question is.... is there anyone able to invest in them ?!
    We need a plan, hope to have a new federation as soon as possible to solve all the problems and lift the FIBA ban...

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    Lebanon's FIBA Ranking:
    - 2012: 25th with 47.4 points


    17. Nigeria NGR 112.6
    18. New Zealand NZL 102.0
    19. Puerto Rico PUR 92.6
    20. Islamic Republic of Iran IRI 83.1
    21. Italy ITA 72.0
    22. Tunisia TUN 65.8
    23. Great Britain GBR 62.0
    24. Venezuela VEN 49.0
    25. Lebanon LIB 47.4
    26. Canada CAN 46.6
    27. Dominican Republic DOM 45.6
    28. Panama PAN 41.8
    29. Uruguay URU 39.2
    30. Jordan JOR 33.8
    31. Israel ISR 30.0
    32. Mexico MEX 26.4
    33. Korea KOR 26.1
    34. MKD MKD 25.0
    35. Japan JPN 23.8
    36. Qatar QAT 22.4
    37. Senegal SEN 20.2
    38. Cote d'Ivoire CIV 20.0
    39. Latvia LAT 19.0
    40. Bulgaria BUL 18.0
    40. Poland POL 18.0
    42. Chinese Taipei TPE 14.4
    43. Cameroon CMR 13.4
    44. Portugal POR 11.0
    45. Philippines PHI 10.8
    46. Central African Republic CAF 10.4
    47. Kazakhstan KAZ 10.2


    - 2013 (after Asia Championship): ? with 35.4 pts -12
    - 2014 (after World Cup): ? with 25.4 pts -10

    http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/eve...p/rankMen.html

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    Yeah we're going to drop really bad in the rankings because of this mess we're into and the amount of points you mentioned that we will lose are absolutely correct! Qualifying to the 2016 Olympics will make up for it big time but right now let's just solve our issues first and then we'll see since it's too early to talk about this.

    Lebanon's point system explained for those who want to see how it works:

    The results for Lebanon during the FIBA cycle ranking years are as follows:
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    Weight of Asian Championship = 0.3
    Weight of World Championship = 5
    (Weight of Olympics is also 5 but Lebanon never qualified to Olympics)

    Lebanon:
    1) 2nd place in 2005 Asian Championship = 40 x 0.3 = 12 points
    2) 18th place in 2006 WC (but got same amount of points as 17th place since they were tied with the same win/loss record) = 2 x 5 = 10 points
    3) 2nd place in 2007 Asian Championship = 40 x 0.3 = 12 points
    4) 4th place in 2009 Asian Championship = 15 x 0.3 = 4.5 points
    5) 21st place in 2010 WC = 1 x 5 = 5 points
    6) 6th place in 2011 Asian Championship = 13 x 0.3 = 3.9 points

    Total Points = 12+10+12+4.5+5+3.9 = 47.4 points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    Yeah we're going to drop really bad in the rankings because of this mess we're into and the amount of points you mentioned that we will lose are absolutely correct! Qualifying to the 2016 Olympics will make up for it big time but right now let's just solve our issues first and then we'll see since it's too early to talk about this.

    Lebanon's point system explained for those who want to see how it works:

    The results for Lebanon during the FIBA cycle ranking years are as follows:
    Note:
    Weight of Asian Championship = 0.3
    Weight of World Championship = 5
    (Weight of Olympics is also 5 but Lebanon never qualified to Olympics)

    Lebanon:
    1) 2nd place in 2005 Asian Championship = 40 x 0.3 = 12 points
    2) 18th place in 2006 WC (but got same amount of points as 17th place since they were tied with the same win/loss record) = 2 x 5 = 10 points
    3) 2nd place in 2007 Asian Championship = 40 x 0.3 = 12 points
    4) 4th place in 2009 Asian Championship = 15 x 0.3 = 4.5 points
    5) 21st place in 2010 WC = 1 x 5 = 5 points
    6) 6th place in 2011 Asian Championship = 13 x 0.3 = 3.9 points

    Total Points = 12+10+12+4.5+5+3.9 = 47.4 points
    Yeah, the only way we can make up to this is by winning Asia Championship 2015 (we'll get 3 pts "15-12") and then at least 35 points after participating in the Olympic games!


    We might still be 3rd in Asia this year (2013);
    if Jordan doesn't get a position better than 4th (35 or less pts).
    & Korea doesn't get a position better than 2nd (33.6 pr less).

    Qatar has 22.1 pts (winning the tournament will only give them (15-9 = 6pts). Total: 28.1 pts
    Taiwan (winning the tournament will give them 15-3 = 12pts). Total: 25.4pts.
    Philippines (winning the tournament will give them 15-0= 15pts). Total = 25.8 pts
    etc..

    Lebanon will most probably stay 3rd in Asia (Fiba ranking) in 2013, but we might lose a lot of positions "world ranking" after World Cup 2014... depending on which Asian teams qualify, Most probably we'll be 4th in Asia (fiba ranking) in 2014 behind the 3 teams qualifying to the World Cup (Iran, China and X)

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    I feel sorry for Lebanon (even though I still don't know what happened). This must feel like an unbelievable nightmare. So the ban will be lifted in 2014?
    aim low, score high

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    I feel sorry for Lebanon (even though I still don't know what happened). This must feel like an unbelievable nightmare. So the ban will be lifted in 2014?
    Yeah right now these are the worst days of Lebanese basketball ever... To make it short politics and personal interest led the league to be cancelled and then to FIBA banning Lebanon.
    There is no specific time frame... If we abide by what FIBA tells us the ban will be lifted.

    Here is a copy of FIBA's ban if you would like to read it:

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    This is the same situation in the Philippines back in our dark days 1999-2006.

    With the help of business tycoon MVP, Smart Communications, they help our NT
    regain ASIAN BASKETBALL glory. Someday Lebanon will rise again!


    I know how you feel and lets move on guys!
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    I hope this is true and will lift the ban on Lebanon this year.
    http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/Sp...50480126246553
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKR13 View Post
    I hope this is true and will lift the ban on Lebanon this year.
    http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/Sp...50480126246553
    Refreshing news for Asia Basketball. I hope they play on the Asian games.
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    FIBA to remove the Ban on Lebanese Basketball
    Lebanese Basketball is on the way to come back to be active in FIBA family. After the approval of the amendments on the Internal Regulations by the FLB General Assembly. The FLB sent the Internal Regulations to FIBA who agreed on all points which are based on their remarks.

    These points gives the FLB and its godfathers all the big powers to run the game and to be firm in case of problems like the ones happened last season . The first division clubs agreed on the amendments knowing that are not based on any point from the FIBA Regulations due that they are the main involved parties and they want to come back on the International scene.

    The letter of the Ban removal should reach the FLB this week and the International participations will be allowed from the date the letter is received. For this reason the FLB appointed Ghassan Sarkis as Head Coach for the Men's National Team to participate in the WABA Men's Championship which will be held in Amman - Jordan and will serve as a qualification round for FIBA ASIA Cup which will be held in Wuhan - China in next July.

    The FLB sent to WABA the list of 23 players already on April 23rd and this was done under the patronage of FIBA ASIA in order to allow to Lebanon to participate in case FIBA removes the Ban.

    FLB president denied receiving the letter from FIBA, other sources in the FLB revealed that the email was well received by the FLB but they are waiting for the official letter to be sent by fax. This is strange for Lebanese Basketball fans who are waiting anxiously to remove the ban due that its well known that FIBA sends its communications since many years by email and not by fax.

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    Ban officially removed today by FIBA

    I thought it would last for many years but thank God we were able to do it in 10 months.

    FIBA lifts international ban on Lebanon
    May 07, 2014 06:43 PM
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    BEIRUT: FIBA has lifted the suspension on the Lebanese Basketball Federation, which will now allow the national teams to compete again in FIBA competitions.

    Federation president Walid Nassar received the good news in a fax from FIBA’s Secretary General Patrick Baumann Wednesday.

    The end of the suspension concludes a yearlong struggle over political and judicial fallouts in Lebanon, where basketball is the most popular sport.
    http://dailystar.com.lb/Sports/Baske...#axzz312uFJJQI

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    Congratulations guys... feels great to be back internationally!!!
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    Asian Basketball welcomes Lebanon back to Asian caging! Can't wait to see Phi. Gilas squares off with Lebanon. I wonder when will that be.

    Lets get ready to rumble guys!
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