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Originally posted by spidey102279Yup, that's what I am saying all along. Why Kobe don't have that kind of training here? Instead of training how to dunk, he should be training like what he is doing today.
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Originally posted by spidey102279Yup, that's what I am saying all along. Why Kobe don't have that kind of training here? Instead of training how to dunk, he should be training like what he is doing today.
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Originally posted by thatweirdguy View PostIs there something wrong with the way they train? Or is it maybe the with the way they are used by their team? Or maybe that's just the way he plays..
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Originally posted by lurklurk View PostThe way they train pros (or almost pros in kobe’s case) here in the ph are somewhat oldschool-ish. Perimeter drills are mostly one bounce pull ups, dribbling drills are passe, etc. You can see it manifest in the pba, its rare to see shooters with quick release. Almost all cant shoot on the move as they lack perimeter footwork.
There was a time in the early PBA days,players who can shoot while moving was a dime a dozen,for example Francis Arnaiz,Arnie Tuadles,Atoy Co,Hubalde to name a few.
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To be fair with the likes of Kobe, and Lebron.
If they feel their athleticism is enough to dominate, then they will over rely on it. And that is the case here.
It is not the case in USA where a ton of players are more athletic than them.
Dwight Ramos is mo where near as athletic as the other 2. But the consensus opinion is he is a better player than both of them right now. (Ofc Lebron is a litte younger)
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Originally posted by lurklurk View PostAgree. Training one or 2 positions below your actual playing position is best pa rin talaga.
BTW, how effective do you think a Pinoy player getting around 3 months training in a basketball training institution like East West Private? I'm thinking of such set-up for guys like Tamayo, Quiambao, Raven Cortez & others. I mean, they train for 3 months every year in the US then come back here to play college ball in the Philippines.
I think this could be an alternative for some Pinoy ballers who can't afford to enroll & play college basketball in the US. Lets face it, not everyone is like a Kai Sotto or Kobe Paras or a Dalph Panopio or a Anonuevo."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by lurklurk View PostThe way they train pros (or almost pros in kobe’s case) here in the ph are somewhat oldschool-ish. Perimeter drills are mostly one bounce pull ups, dribbling drills are passe, etc. You can see it manifest in the pba, its rare to see shooters with quick release. Almost all cant shoot on the move as they lack perimeter footwork.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostGood point bro. It reminds me of the kind of training Cholo Anonuevo is getting in the US in which he plays some point guard role in his team. Even if Cholo ends up playing as a shooting guard or combo guard, the reps he is getting playing as point guard would make him a better 2-guard or combo guard.
BTW, how effective do you think a Pinoy player getting around 3 months training in a basketball training institution like East West Private? I'm thinking of such set-up for guys like Tamayo, Quiambao, Raven Cortez & others. I mean, they train for 3 months every year in the US then come back here to play college ball in the Philippines.
I think this could be an alternative for some Pinoy ballers who can't afford to enroll & play college basketball in the US. Lets face it, not everyone is like a Kai Sotto or Kobe Paras or a Dalph Panopio or a Anonuevo.
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Originally posted by lurklurk View PostWell it’s definitely better than the training and competition they are getting locally. 3 months of training with world class trainers and pickup ball with div 1 and div 2 players—that’s irreplaceable. Better if you can squeeze in a mini-tournament for some organized ball. 4 games in 2 weeks is plenty.
imagine what 3 months can do with developing kids.
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Originally posted by neo View Postless than a month of us training did wonders with an already old jc intal.
imagine what 3 months can do with developing kids.
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Originally posted by Juan Lun View PostTrue our outside shooting is sub par, the only recent shooter that I can think of that is close to Caidic is Jeff Chan. Others like James Yap, Gary D, Pogoy are too erratic
James, Gary, and Roger are streaky shooters. There are games they are hot. There are games they ate too cold. Inconsistent.
Jimmy and Jeff and maybe Larry is our best shooters in the Gilas Program.
Now, in the new breeds. I don't see a knockout shooters yet.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostPba Superstars, most of them are more of a slasher or 1 on 1 players.
James, Gary, and Roger are streaky shooters. There are games they are hot. There are games they ate too cold. Inconsistent.
Jimmy and Jeff and maybe Larry is our best shooters in the Gilas Program.
Now, in the new breeds. I don't see a knockout shooters yet.
Jeff chan, larry fonacier = best shooters???
That’s a bad take. Ill be surprised if any kind of statistic can back up this claim.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostPba Superstars, most of them are more of a slasher or 1 on 1 players.
James, Gary, and Roger are streaky shooters. There are games they are hot. There are games they ate too cold. Inconsistent.
Jimmy and Jeff and maybe Larry is our best shooters in the Gilas Program.
Now, in the new breeds. I don't see a knockout shooters yet.
i think d current gilas pool lacks 3-pt shooting, especially as we have yet to see what bulanadi can do.
if one or two PBA player will be loaned for 2023 WC, it should be a playmaking pg and a 3-pt specialist at d sg position.
looking at d current pba players, ravena and bolick, and pogoy and wright tops d list still.
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