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  • #61
    Originally posted by Khalid80
    Charbel, Malone has the most double doubles since 1986-1987 but they're not consecutive.

    I couldn't find any data about consecutive double doubles.


    (Data obtained from Wikipedia)

    "NBA regular season double-double leaders since 1986-87
    As of April 18, 2008

    1. Karl Malone 782
    2. John Stockton 696
    3. Shaquille O'Neal 687
    4. Hakeem Olajuwon 674
    5. Kevin Garnett 636
    6. Charles Barkley 623
    7. Tim Duncan 595
    8. Patrick Ewing 563
    9. David Robinson 544
    10. Dikembe Mutombo 470"
    ya i knew it not consecutive, i couldn't find anything abt the consecutive double-double record, but i cant imagine it being any1 except wilt chamberlain

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    • #62
      Will Andris Biedrins make 2009 the All-Star game?

      It's a real possibility!

      Golden-haired 6-11 Andris Biedrins could be the Golden State Warrior's first all-star in more than 10 years.

      Such a selection seemed unlikely in 2004, when an 18-year-old Biedrins became the youngest player ever drafted by the Warriors.

      In his first couple years, he averaged less than 4.5 in points and rebounds and shot a jaw-droppingly inept 30.6% from the free throw line in 2005-06....


      Read the rest here.

      Also, check out the foxsports interview with "Dre" at the end of the article..
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      • #63
        17 pts + 21 rebs + 5 assists + 3 steals + 2 blocks (6 TOs) as the Warriors beat the Thunder.
        Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
        Artificial Nature

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        • #64
          Right now, it seems like Biedrins is the team. He's the only player who is worth his paycheck right now (and maybe the rookie Morrow). Biedrins deserves to be an All-Star, because he is the reason they've won five games instead of starting the year 0-20.
          "I really like the attitudes of eagles. They never give up. When they grab a fish or something else, they never let it go. It doesn't matter. In a book, they write they find a skeleton of [an] eagle and there is no fish. It means that the fish beat him and killed him, but he didn't let go." -- Donatas Motiejunas

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          • #65
            12 pts + 17 rebounds and a career-high 8 assists + 3 steals + 3 blocks as the Warriors lose to the Lakers.
            Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
            Artificial Nature

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            • #66
              Warriors' Biedrins sidelined by sprained wrist



              Nothing too serious. Hope he'll be back in action for the next game.

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              • #67
                From ESPN website...
                Attached Files
                Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
                Artificial Nature

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
                  From ESPN website...
                  There are still many people who think Latvia and Lithuania are somewhere in Russia and their language is Russian. That's fucking irritating.
                  But this is too much
                  LTU NT will snatch Eurobasket 2029 title with this roster:

                  Jokubaitis, Marciulionis, Laurencikas
                  Indrusaitis, Brazdeikis, Rubstavicius
                  Buzelis, Lelevicius
                  Murauskas, Sirvydis
                  Tubelis, Krivas

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                  • #69
                    Andris Biedrins - The Forgotten Warrior :: 2009-2010 Player Recaps and Previews

                    by Adam Lauridsen on Oct 14, 2009


                    What do Ralph Sampson, Uwe Blab, Alton Lister, Tyrone Hill, Victor Alexander, Rony Seikaly, Todd Fuller, Erick Dampier, Adonal Foyle, and Troy Murphy have in common? They've all been opening night starting centers for the Warriors in the past twenty years -- and their performances as Warriors all fall short of what Andris Biedrins has brought to the team. But despite nearly two decades of longing for a high quality center, some Warriors fans don't seem to appreciate fully the one that fell into their laps at the 11th pick in 2004, fresh from Riga, Latvia. That'll likely change in 09-10, and hopefully not only after Andris' departure.

                    Before breaking down what Andris is, it's worth a quick review of what he isn't. He isn't the reincarnation of Wilt Chamberlain and no one ever labeled him Mini/Lil'/Baby/Junior Shaq. He's not the guy you want going toe-to-toe with Dwight Howard and he can't see eye-to-eye with Yao. He's not the guy you want shooting two free throws when you're down by 1 with no time left on the clock. He's not going to be a Hall of Fame center, but those types of players typically only come along every 5-8 years -- and when there are 30 teams drafting you're a long shot to land one (unless David Stern is kindly willing to put your draft envelop on ice). Andris is a limited player, but his limitations just happen to fit perfectly within the Warriors' current style of play.

                    Whether you call it Nellie ball, small ball, or gimmick ball, Don Nelson uses his centers in a unique way. He simultaneously wants them crashing the boards and blocking shots, but doesn't want them plodding along or clogging up the middle. They need to be mobile and agile, with soft hands and good instincts. It's nice if they have a 10 foot jump shot or can pass from the high post, but their primary job is to stop penetration, secure the defensive rebound, start the break, and get down to the other end of the court to be in offensive rebounding position before the shot goes up (not always an easy task when the Warriors are going full throttle). No one has been better at this since Nelson first coached the Warriors than Andris Biedrins.

                    But Andris' outstanding play often gets overlooked because he's so foundational. He's not the focus of the offense, he just provides the stops and rebounds that allow the rest of the team to get out on the break. He's usually not the man streaking to the basket for a dunk, but it's often his screen that created the glimpse of daylight making the play possible. And Andris might not be getting many shots per game, but it's his offensive rebounds that give the other Warriors even more looks at the basket. When Andris goes down -- as he did with appendicitis two years ago and a variety of ailments last year -- opposing guards get closer to the rim, opposing big men get more second chance points, the Warriors take longer to start their breaks, the lanes to the basket collapse, and the second chance points dry up. The emergence of Anthony Randolph has helped take some of the pressure off Biedrins, but on far too many nights the Latvian and longest-tenured Warrior (along with Monta) still looks like Custer, making his last stand in the paint.

                    So while I could go on and on about how well Andris reads opponents when rotating on defense, or how good he is at making quick passes from the block, or what a tireless, positive force he's been on the team through these turbulent times, we've still got to wrestle with the fact that the team he anchored last year simply wasn't very good. And if the Warriors are going to improve, Andris needs to step up. I think he's up to the task -- and there are plenty of signs that 09-10 might be the year he makes the jump from solid player to difference maker.

                    With Stephen Curry looking like a real point guard, Andris will have a teammate capable of feeding him the ball on breaks and pick-and-rolls. Biedrins' speed allows him to beat opponents down the court, and his agility allows him to work around them in the half court. Although he took a step back year handling the ball, he usually has soft hands and a nice touch from within five feet. Curry should get the most from Andris' abilities, hopefully integrating him more fully into the offense -- which will help with the spacing over the rest of the court.
                    Now 23 years old, Andris is only just entering the peak period of development of NBA big men. I'm optimistic that solid competition over the summers in European play combined with the Warriors' recent hiring of Scott Roth (famed for helping Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzki adapt to the NBA) will help accelerate his development. Again, if Andris can develop enough of an offensive game to demand fairly consistent defensive attention, it'll only help open up the key for players like Curry, Ellis, and Azubuike to slash to the basket.
                    The signing of Ronny Turiaf last year provided the Warriors with a perfect change of pace to spell Andris against larger, stronger players. Turiaf has the lower body strength needed to push out the bigger centers in the NBA. Ideally, if the Warriors are attacking, Biedrins can use his quickness to turn his opponent's size and weight into a disadvantage. If not, Turiaf should provide relief. And if Andris improves his offensive game, we might get to see Biedrins paired with Turiaf against larger front lines -- particularly given our reduced front-court depth following Wright's injury. Biedrins' limitations are less of an issue now that we have the ideal role player to complement him. Andris will play in situations where he can do the most damage.
                    But despite all of the above, Andris' primary role on the Warriors this off-season and preseason has been as the leading trade rumor target. Whether in the rumored deal for Stoudemire last June or Chris Bosh this week, Andris' name keeps popping up. But the fact that he continues to be the guy other teams want should give us serious pause before we swap him out for whatever rent-a-big-man Nelson, Riley, and Rowell think will help give the team an immediate boost.

                    A Warriors team replacing Andris with Amare immediately becomes significantly worse defensively and on the boards. And any boost gained offensively will come primarily from Amare's jump shooting, not inside play, as he demonstrated on Saturday when Randolph thoroughly outplayed him in the paint. When you factor in Amare's health, locker room issues, and the other pieces likely involved on our end, the deal's a non-starter for me.
                    The rumored Bosh swap is a closer call, since Chris is a better rebounder, defender, and all-around team presence than Amare -- but I still worry about whether he'll do the dirty work in Nelson's system of banging repeatedly against the other team's biggest player. If Bosh is paired with Turiaf at center, our rebounding suffers and Randolph is forced to the bench (since he can't play 3 until he demonstrates a consistent jumper). If Bosh is paired with Randolph at center, Anthony will get abused by bigger, stronger guys (and likely foul himself off the floor far sooner than we'd all like). There's no denying Bosh is a world-class talent and the type of guy we'd love on our team, but there's a deeper question of how exactly you hope to use him on the team remaining post-trade -- and whether that use looks like it'll be any more successful than the scheme he's been treading water in with Toronto.

                    In a perfect world, we'd get to pair a rebounding / dirty work center like Biedrins with an offensive power forward like Stoudemire or Bosh. But swapping one for the other seems to create as many problems as it solves, particularly since our team is in much greater need of rebounding and defense than scorers. Fortunately, the perfect world scenario might just require a little patience -- while we wait for Anthony Randolph to mature. Andris Biedrins has grown up on the Warriors, from the youngest player in the league to a team captain. To abandon his development now -- just as he appears poised to round out his skills along with a young crop of well-matched teammates -- would be a classic short-sighted Warriors move. Skilled centers like Andris don't come along every day -- as we learned all too well in the two decades before Andris arrived.
                    Andris Biedrins is the longest tenured Golden State Warrior -- but his run with the team may be coming to an end. Here's what the Warriors would lose from Andris' potential change of address.
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                    • #70
                      First big game since coming back from injury: 9 points + 17 rebounds + a career-high 8 blocks as the Warriors beat the Bulls.
                      Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
                      Artificial Nature

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                      • #71
                        Is he going to play for the NT the next summer?
                        My Youtube channel

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by rikhardur View Post
                          First big game since coming back from injury: 9 points + 17 rebounds + a career-high 8 blocks as the Warriors beat the Bulls.
                          Biedrins is fairly young and still a prominent center in the nba. Amazing player. If his career path continues to improve he will surpass Gasol as the best european center, if he isn't already.

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                          • #73
                            Nelson plans to be back next season for Warriors

                            OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Now that he's the winningest coach in NBA history, Don Nelson has a new project planned for his final go as Golden State's coach next season: turning Andris Biedrins into a decent free-throw shooter.

                            With an underhand shot, no less. Nelson insists Biedrins will do it this time after previous suggestions of such a change.

                            Biedrins, sidelined the last 23 games following March 10 surgery to repair a small tear of an abdominal muscle and 48 total, made just 4 of 25 from the line this season -- and Nelson says he was less aggressive going to the basket to avoid having to shoot free throws.

                            Nelson reiterated before Tuesday night's final home game against the Jazz he would return next season to fulfill the final year of his contract for the Warriors, and general manager Larry Riley said that would be the case barring any unforeseen circumstances.
                            Die Liebe wird eine Krankheit, wenn man sie als eine Heilung sieht
                            Artificial Nature

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                            • #74
                              Biedrins already have solid experience and he's still young buck, so he has chances to get higher

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                              • #75
                                Golden State Warriors 111 Memphis Grizzlies 116

                                Despite the losing effort, Andris Biedrins had 28 points, 21 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 1 block.
                                Sacramento Kings
                                HERE WE STAY UNTIL THE COWBELLS COME HOME

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