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    Default Andris Biedrins, next great international NBA center?

    31 points (14-17 fg) & 10 rebounds wow in the loss againts Nuggets, tonight.

    Sorry sariss, I separated a thread to talk about Biedrins' breakout season and you had the first post... Stuart
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    I really hope we get to see both Kambala and Biedrins there! As I write this Biedrins just scored 31 pts and grabbed 10 rebs against Denver! He sure is coming along!

    Edit: Sariss just beat me to it by one second! On the buzzer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sariss
    31 points (14-17 fg) & 10 rebounds wow in the loss againts Nuggets, tonight.
    What a night for him!
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    Quote from todays papers:

    "All he does is play and make simple decisions," Nelson said of Biedrins. "I wish I had nine of them like him. He might be the best center I ever coached. That's a lot to say for a young kid, but this kid is special."

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    As the Warriors end the Jazz's 8-game winning streak, another great game for Biedriņš: 14 pts + 17 rebs + 5 blocks

    Don Nelson is a great coach and very talented to work with youngsters and help them develope their best.
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    and Biedrins keeps on rolling: 18 points, 15 rebounds and 6 blocks in a win against the Spurs, last night. Kevin Martin has some competition for MIP.
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    And what was the best in the last game:

    Duncan Layup Shot: Missed Block: Biedrins (4 BLK) 8:53

    Team Timeout: Regular 8:37
    Barry Substitution replaced by Oberto 8:37
    Duncan Layup Shot: Missed Block: Biedrins (5 BLK) 8:19
    Team Rebound 8:19
    Duncan Layup Shot: Missed Block: Biedrins (6 BLK) 8:14


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    He's becoming a great player indeed! He might as well become the MIP, yeah
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    Man Andris really came out of nowhere... Mike Montgomery might still have his job had he given Biedrins a chance last year.

    Biedrins is playing fantastic. With 18, 15, and 6blks in last night's win over #1 team in the league, Biedrins has been the most consistent warrior in the last 9 games, he has averaged 14.1ppg, 12.6 rebounds and 3.2 blocks on 62.5% shooting.

    He has been such a thread on offensive rebounds that in the Sacramento game, Kenny Thomas started face-guarding him on rebounds! (source)

    Andris Biedrins was not a happy player last week, not with Kings forward Kenny Thomas facing him straight-up after almost every shot the Warriors attempted.

    "He wasn't even going for the rebound," Biedrins said with an exasperated look. "He let the other guys get it. He was just blocking me off, you know?"
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    Another article from the San Francisco Chronicle (link):

    Biedrins having breakout season
    If only the free throw didn't exist.

    Then Andris Biedrins could go an entire day hearing about everything he is doing, as opposed to the one thing he isn't.

    "I know, I know," Biedrins said last week. "I'm trying to get better."

    The Warriors' 20-year-old center is off to a blistering start this season -- foul shooting aside -- in helping Golden State to its first winning record in 10 months.

    Not only has Biedrins forced his way into coach Don Nelson's starting lineup, but he's leading fast breaks, getting isolation play calls and cleaning up around the rim.

    "He's been great," Troy Murphy perfectly summarized.

    He's been the Warriors' best big man, and the proof was on display in the first quarter of Saturday's 111-79 blowout of the Pistons. After Baron Davis forced a turnover by Nazr Mohammed, Biedrins pushed the ball in transition and found Jason Richardson for an open three-point attempt.

    Four minutes later, Biedrins put a spin move on Mohammed, then backed him for a turnaround jumper and foul. A few minutes after that, Biedrins stepped into the lane and blocked what appeared to be an uncontested shot by Pistons guard Lindsey Hunter.

    In short, Biedrins is providing the type of two-way interior presence the Warriors desperately have been missing.

    "I feel really good," Biedrins said. "I was just waiting for my chance."

    The third-year center from Latvia didn't get that chance under coach Mike Montgomery -- partly because of Montgomery's preference for Adonal Foyle and partly because of Biedrins' own inability to stay out of foul trouble.

    That hasn't been the case in Nelson's up-tempo system, in which Foyle has been stuck on the bench as Biedrins' role grows by the day. At least a few times every game, Nelson has isolated Biedrins at the elbow and charged him with hitting the cutter or taking his man. Other times, Biedrins cuts to the basket off pick-and-rolls and makes himself an easy target for teammates.

    "As a point guard, you want somebody big like that who can finish," Davis said. "You can throw the ball up and he's going to get his hands on it."

    Biedrins would be leading the league in field-goal percentage if he had enough baskets to qualify. He is shooting 77 percent after making 24 of his 31 attempts, and he needed 26 after seven games to be officially listed among the NBA leaders.

    He's averaging 6.6 rebounds in 24.4 minutes per game, and that's not including the rebounds he has tipped to his teammates. With his quickness and hyperactivity, Biedrins is systematically proving to his coach that he can play major minutes.

    Nelson was worried about his center's ability to avoid fouls. So far, Biedrins has had only one bad game. He fouled out in 19 minutes against the Hornets on Thursday, but still managed to grab six rebounds.

    Nelson was worried about Biedrins' shot-blocking ability. As of the weekend, Biedrins ranked fourth in the league in total blocks (15) and 10th in blocks per game (2.1).

    Nelson isn't as worried as much anymore.

    "His whole game is pretty good," he said. "It's only the free throw that's his nemesis."

    After trying the Bo Kimble, one-handed approach to start the season, the left-handed Biedrins is back to stabilizing his free-throw shot with his right hand. He met with Holger Geschwindner, Dirk Nowitzki's personal coach, when the Warriors were in Dallas last week and received a lesson in practicality from the shooting specialist.

    "You shoot free throws with one hand and jump shots with two, so he said there's no point," Biedrins recalled. "It's different shot, so just try to put the other hand there, too."

    Biedrins went 31 percent from the line last season. He's off to a 46 percent start this season, but hit two clutch free-throw tries against the Hornets in Oklahoma City on Tuesday.

    Bring up free throws and Biedrins smiles and he shakes his head. If only free throws didn't exist, he'd be having the dream season.

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    He IS getting better in free throws: in last three games he has scored 9 from 11

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    Torrent video of his best moments so far this season:
    http://www.sportbit.org/details.php?id=1646
    Enjoy!
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    Loss against the Bucks, but double-double for Biedriņš 17 pts + 12 rebs (+ 3 blocks).
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    Wow some centers from Europe are doing such a good job!!

    Krstic, Pachulia, Bezec and now Biedrins and big Z of the Cavs who's been there for a while...

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    He is really a good defender, with long arms, decent athleticism and good lateral quickness, he is very active on boards and goes hard for every rebound.
    But after watching some Warriors games, his unability to finish strong around the rim made me shakin my head many times, I've seen enough of "Andris Biedris missed 1-foot lay-up, "Andris Biedrins missed 2-foot jump hook", etc...
    He has a great situation, since Warriors guards are making some great passes inside (especially Baron Davis, if he's healthy), but he has a long way to become a contributor on offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woma
    He is really a good defender, with long arms, decent athleticism and good lateral quickness, he is very active on boards and goes hard for every rebound.
    But after watching some Warriors games, his unability to finish strong around the rim made me shakin my head many times, I've seen enough of "Andris Biedris missed 1-foot lay-up, "Andris Biedrins missed 2-foot jump hook", etc...
    He has a great situation, since Warriors guards are making some great passes inside (especially Baron Davis, if he's healthy), but he has a long way to become a contributor on offense.
    He's making huge progress and remember he's only 20 years old. His free throws, one of his problems, are already improving, and I'm sure the rest will also improve with time, and he still has plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GR8BBALL
    Wow some centers from Europe are doing such a good job!!

    Krstic, Pachulia, Bezec and now Biedrins and big Z of the Cavs who's been there for a while...
    You add Bogut, Yao Ming and Anderson Varejao to the list, and it looks like international players have eight of the top ten centers in the NBA (Shaq, Zo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8BBALL
    Wow some centers from Europe are doing such a good job!!

    Krstic, Pachulia, Bezec and now Biedrins and big Z of the Cavs who's been there for a while...
    You add Bogut, Yao Ming and Anderson Varejao to the list, and it looks like international players have eight of the top ten centers in the NBA (Shaq, Zo)

    Stuart
    Mehmet Okur makes them 9 out of 11.

    Sorry, I tried, but couldn't resist .

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    17 points, 13 rebounds last night for Biedrins in win over Hornets.

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    Victory over the Kings and double-double for Biedriņš:

    20 pts (7/7 FG, 6/6 FT)
    14 rebs
    (3 blocks)
    (3 assists)

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