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Thread: Group B, Day 2: China vs. Russia

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    Default Group B, Day 2: China vs. Russia

    China with a respectable performance against Spain, but Russia picked apart GB with Kirilenko dominating. China needs to pull an upset somewhere if they want to go into the final game against GB with a shot at an upset.
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    I wish I could watch this game on TV but now I have to work!

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    ^ streaming then?

    China hanging around, bench guys starting to come in though so the blowout is coming...
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    Very physical game, it seems like there is no calls for a lot of contact that would be called in most games. I'm not complaining, just saying.

    Russia is really big at every position, hard for China on the boards.

    Yi J.L. nice block on Kirilenko dunk, but Russia running away. Hope it doesn't become a blowout.
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    A very low scoring game after the 1st... 20-12 Russia.

    China can't seem to get off that three point shot off. Not sure how many they attempted (or made if any) but the Russians are playing excellent perimeter defense with excellent close out too... If China can't find their rhythm from beyond the arc this will be a definite blowout (25 points and up).

    Also i can't understand the Russian commentator i am watching so i got no help there
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    China needs to start their offense early-- 4-5 seconds wasted at the back court, another 4-5 seconds setting up the play, by the time the play starts they have less than 10 seconds or so.

    Easier said than done of course against this Russian squad.
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    30-18 now. Too bad leaving the PC now as i really wanted to watch Russia do their work. From what i see (and the first game) i think they are medal contenders.
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    This is a nightmare, it's like Philippines meeting China, you think you are quick, but then every defender is just as quick as you and 2-3 inches taller.

    Yi J.L. finally gets something going, a big dunk right before half-time.
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    Not so bad for China. Only 61pts for Russia after 3 quarters despite tripling China's assists and doubling their rebounds.

    Maybe Russia is saving their energy for better opponents.

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    Hey even I know who Kaun is, he looks nothing like Mozgov or Khryapa, stop confusing the players you dumb FIBA commentators, and stop dumb shit like "If China wants to win this they cannot do this or that" smartass it's a 25pt game

    Chen Jianghua is the only one who could score, that's what I wanted, actually just forget about height, put Guo Ailun in the game to run please, the tall players can't defend the Russians anyway, might as well go small.
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    China has a few good players. #11 is a revelation! I hope he has a break out year in the NBA. He is so athletic and long!

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    Default China has good defense.

    I'm impressed. China has forced Russia to 11 turnovers. They have only 12 themselves but Russia has converted on the Chinese turnovers. China's defense is impressive. If China would score on Russia's turnovers it would be a closer game.

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    Russia shooting very poorly from 3pt distance.

    Sun Yue and Wang Zhizhi are disappointing today. Well Sun Yue has always been a disappointment for China against strong teams.

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    #11 Yi Il is a bad bad man! I hope Dallas plays him more.

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    Default Chen is fast!

    Chen is fast! e needs to slow down a bit. Be patient. I like his style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raze Lupin View Post
    I'm impressed. China has forced Russia to 11 turnovers. They have only 12 themselves but Russia has converted on the Chinese turnovers. China's defense is impressive. If China would score on Russia's turnovers it would be a closer game.
    Is this sarcasm?

    Anyway, I agree Sun Yue has been very disappointing, and yes he disappears often but he played well in 2010 World Champs.

    Give Russia a lot of credit, they look like a strong medal contender to me. Impressive size and toughness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    This is a nightmare, it's like Philippines meeting China, you think you are quick, but then every defender is just as quick as you and 2-3 inches taller.

    Yi J.L. finally gets something going, a big dunk right before half-time.
    True. China can bully the smaller teams but looks like boys amongst men when pitted against real teams. Since you compared it to RP i guess you can relate as well that it must be very frustrating-- not enough development despite being a constant in many Olympics now. i guess mediocrity is really the ceiling for such teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    True. China can bully the smaller teams but looks like boys amongst men when pitted against real teams. Since you compared it to RP i guess you can relate as well that it must be very frustrating-- not enough development despite being a constant in many Olympics now. i guess mediocrity is really the ceiling for such teams
    Harsh words, but nothing to disagree with here. It all filters down to the junior level, how we (and you) select talents and develop and train young players - not something that can be fundamentally changed in a few years.

    However, I don't think there are this many "real teams", Australia was down by 20+ to Spain today in Q3 before Spain let the bench finish the 4th quarter, so it's not like all the non-Asian teams are at the same level. However, Australia is also big and quick and they play extremely physical. Hard test for us two days later, we need to attack the basket, so what if you get blocked or if there is no foul called after you fall on your ass 3 times, no more standing around like scarecrows (and look like crows that have been scared).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinobball View Post
    Harsh words, but nothing to disagree with here. It all filters down to the junior level, how we (and you) select talents and develop and train young players - not something that can be fundamentally changed in a few years.

    However, I don't think there are this many "real teams", Australia was down by 20+ to Spain today in Q3 before Spain let the bench finish the 4th quarter, so it's not like all the non-Asian teams are at the same level. However, Australia is also big and quick and they play extremely physical. Hard test for us two days later, we need to attack the basket, so what if you get blocked or if there is no foul called after you fall on your ass 3 times, no more standing around like scarecrows (and look like crows that have been scared).
    i expected some sort of rebuttal but got blunt honesty back. That's even more admirable. China should win against GB else it would be a disappointing Olympics indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durden_tyler View Post
    i expected some sort of rebuttal but got blunt honesty back. That's even more admirable. China should win against GB else it would be a disappointing Olympics indeed.
    I could have said something like that, but it's pointless. The truth of the matter is, Asian teams cannot compete with the top few teams in the world. There are many reasons to that, genetics, geographic separation, culture, political mess (including bureaucracy), organization, etc. Right now it all seems like it's not so much as catching up but trying to prevent the gap from getting larger and larger. Even Africa looks like they could surpass Asia with added investment.


    China's assistant Pete Philo on ESPN 730 after the game:
    http://www.stationcaster.com/station...1343755205.mp3

    He seems optimistic about the chances against Australia. Whatever the result, definitely cannot play like we did today.
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