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    Quote Originally Posted by kamokamo View Post
    Actually, I'm not talking about those kids like Kobe or Japeth who we know don't have any issues on the financial side. My point is, if the reason why Pinoy athletic kids can't go or even try US because they don't have the financial resources, to me, that's something that can be worked out. Some of these kids are probably not living or away from their families anyway. Why not try US where you can get a good education (on a scholarship ala Japeth, or you are that good), and play the sport you love? If everything else fails, you always have the PBA as a fallback.
    The allusion to Japeth and Kobe were not on the financial aspect, but on their supposed "chance" of making it by virtue of their potential. Let's admit it, many people were high on them. That is why I said earlier it has to be a combination of physical attributes, talent and mentality to actually make it there. They unfortunately set the bar a bit high for our own good.

    I get what you're saying. I think the best way to entice our prospects to trying their luck in the US is to assure them they'd be getting the same benefits they would by playing locally instead of them spending their own fortune, a sponsorship perhaps. It is a matter of being smart rather than not having the guts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotch View Post
    Pinoy HS Blue Chippers rarely, if not at all, go out of the country because these kids and their family become comfortable with all the "compensation" and adulation they get.

    And also, these compensation trickle down from the blue-chipper up to:

    1. Parents
    2. Agents and handlers masquerading as guardians
    3. Entourage (masseuse, tape guys, trainers, p/r staff, make-up artists, girlfriends)

    so why go, if you and your people are sitting on a goldmine.


    And also, lots of money is riding on the kid, directly or indirectly

    1. Schools
    2. Boosters
    3. Sponsors
    4. And in some cases, ABS-CBN


    so you can just imagine why Jaja Santiago, if reports were true, turned down a scholarship offer from UCLA. She'll just be a tall volleyball player in campus vs the face of NU and PHL volleyball here.
    Economics made up half of the correct and practical decision in every endeavor. African athletes are living in a much reduced circumstances compared to Filipinos. Additionally, Philippines have a thriving basketball and volleyball industry as opposed to the sports sector in some African countries except football.

    The Japeth and Kobe experiment was an eye opener to us. We realized that height and skillset does not guarantee a player's success to make it to the NBA, maybe previously when NBA isn't global. The World Cup exposure proves that we are have the talent and skills to compete to a higher level. So now, identifying and developing that talent is another thing.

    If Only Kobe has the BB IQ of Keifer or Keifer has the Physique of Parks; If JF has the athleticism of Japeth or Vice versa. JGDL has the speed of Castro. Castro was as tall as JGDL. If Willie Miller grew up in States. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcan View Post
    Economics made up half of the correct and practical decision in every endeavor. African athletes are living in a much reduced circumstances compared to Filipinos. Additionally, Philippines have a thriving basketball and volleyball industry as opposed to the sports sector in some African countries except football.

    The Japeth and Kobe experiment was an eye opener to us. We realized that height and skillset does not guarantee a player's success to make it to the NBA, maybe previously when NBA isn't global. The World Cup exposure proves that we are have the talent and skills to compete to a higher level. So now, identifying and developing that talent is another thing.

    If Only Kobe has the BB IQ of Keifer or Keifer has the Physique of Parks; If JF has the athleticism of Japeth or Vice versa. JGDL has the speed of Castro. Castro was as tall as JGDL. If Willie Miller grew up in States. Lol.
    So true. Being a basketball crazy nation is turning to be a "curse" to us. Our players are sitting in a gold mine, bring with it the celebrity treatments they're getting. Heck, even NBA doesn't even bother "help" us get one player to the NBA. They know, even without a pure pinoy, we will follow NBA no matter what, no marketing gimmicks needed, if you know what I mean...

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    Good documentary on how Camaroon is developing their basketball

    At 5:16 talks about how much focus they had on going to the states even emailing coaches and sending video of themselves to get a scholarship.

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    Even Mongolia is sending their talented kids to the US:



    Kid stands 6'6", plays G/F, AND belongs to the class of 2022. Which means he might be below 16 right now. Not sure if he's related to Mongolian Sharavjamts "Shark" Tserejankhar who was a 7'0" center with forward moves in the 90s.
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    Taiwan is auditioning 3 replacements for the soon-to-retire Quincy Davis: Will Artino, Dexter Pittman (played with Miami Heat), and John Florveus


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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    Taiwan is auditioning 3 replacements for the soon-to-retire Quincy Davis: Will Artino, Dexter Pittman (played with Miami Heat), and John Florveus


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    Will Artino like kyle barone fits on what they want to play, tall can run finesse player who can shoot, great motor, pittman is like a prototype gilas/taiwan naturalization prospect, big guy who will be a inside presence..while florveus is the weakest prospect among the 3..
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    so 20 points is the closest that gilas can ever get against this serbian team. we were beaten by australia-B by 36 points and serbia is a bit better than australia-A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja.he View Post
    so 20 points is the closest that gilas can ever get against this serbian team. we were beaten by australia-B by 36 points and serbia is a bit better than australia-A.
    We really need to learn and hang tough with this kind of team. The pba and sbp will learn a lot from fighting through strong slav and african teams. You need to design a team specifically to beat very good aussie or serbian nt teams. The success of the present u19 team is crucial as it is the first kind that cannot be overpowered easily. This nt just needs an extra all-star big (kai and edu are natural stretch 5 and 4) and a truly deadly tall shooting sf to be an alpha wolf team in fiba asia. Add two nba-level players like blatche and jc for stability under pressure, and pinoys will have genuine world top ten chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja.he View Post
    so 20 points is the closest that gilas can ever get against this serbian team. we were beaten by australia-B by 36 points and serbia is a bit better than australia-A.
    Serbia will be having a friendly match against NZ this August , the results ahould provide us some preview of this Serbian team vs. a team from Asia.
    This is not a comparison between Asian teams but an idea of where we are against these teams and how we can improve towards the right direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerouac82 View Post
    Even Mongolia is sending their talented kids to the US:



    Kid stands 6'6", plays G/F, AND belongs to the class of 2022. Which means he might be below 16 right now. Not sure if he's related to Mongolian Sharavjamts "Shark" Tserejankhar who was a 7'0" center with forward moves in the 90s.
    impressive, he might grow a bit taller up to 6 foot 8.If only we have a Kai Ballungay who I think could match up with this kid
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    hope that serbia comes lazy against us.. theynare slow starting team and has tendency to lose in elimination round games
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    Quote Originally Posted by reamily View Post
    hope that serbia comes lazy against us.. theynare slow starting team and has tendency to lose in elimination round games
    buzzer beater would be nice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ja.he View Post
    so 20 points is the closest that gilas can ever get against this serbian team. we were beaten by australia-B by 36 points and serbia is a bit better than australia-A.
    Australia will be one of the (real) dark horses in the coming tournament like Serbia. Though you cannot see the difference between Aus and Serbia right now as both teams will introduce their big guns come this August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowow View Post
    Australia will be one of the (real) dark horses in the coming tournament like Serbia. Though you cannot see the difference between Aus and Serbia right now as both teams will introduce their big guns come this August.
    anyone who will come out on their group would be a dark horse, canada lithuania and them
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    Chinese Taipei naturalized prospect John Florveus,6'11

    "How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale

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    The key here is to be familiar with euro teams like you play them weekly. I guess the 2014 was successful in keeping it close because they were used to playing the euro teams since lithuania. They also played in spain and france. So when it was time to play croatia parang wala na yung intimidation factor.

    We really have to learn fast in spain and russia. Lets catch serbia on a bad day. Keep it close and strike in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex07 View Post
    Chinese Taipei naturalized prospect John Florveus,6'11

    that guy looks good to me. by the looks of it, he seems to be a good rim protector and rebounder and decent presence inside - something that can compliment to sweet shooting taiwanese team.

    however, he looks slow in my eyes. he will get challenge by in pnr against the quicker china and japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja.he View Post
    that guy looks good to me. by the looks of it, he seems to be a good rim protector and rebounder and decent presence inside - something that can compliment to sweet shooting taiwanese team.

    however, he looks slow in my eyes. he will get challenge by in pnr against the quicker china and japan.
    more lengthy and more athletic than Quincy Davis,but I think Davis can make some shots outside which I think will be this guy's weakness.Anyway, Taiwan doesn't need another outside shooter if all 4 others are shooters.They just need a post presence and a shot blocker.
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