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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    They've had a naturalized point guard before (Jerry Johnson) but were still underwhelming. As we have seen in the upset loss, they still need an on-form Zhigulin to really threaten anyone.
    And Yeng to make stupid decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    While. Romeo is a good individual scorer the verdict is still out if he's inclusion in any National team adds value or.makes team better
    That's what the pooland tune up games for --to see if a player can add value to the team....unfortunately, Yeng wasted the opportunity to add Romeo and Blatche early so that he can see whether they can add value (expensive daw)

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    China have 6'10 Michael Wang and 6'9 Kevin Zhang, Japan have 6'8 Yuta Watanabe and 6'9 Rui Hachimura while Philippines have 6'10 AJ Edu and 7'2 Kai Sotto. Wang, Zhang, Watanabe and Hachimura plays like a modern-day forward; good ball handler, can shoot from the three-point line, can penetrate and finish strong while in defense they can defend pick and roll, perimeter and inside the paint. For Edu and Kai they are more of a center but Edu can defend the pick and roll, inside the paint up to the 3-point line, it's his offense which needs improvement..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    China have 6'10 Michael Wang and 6'9 Kevin Zhang, Japan have 6'8 Yuta Watanabe and 6'9 Rui Hachimura while Philippines have 6'10 AJ Edu and 7'2 Kai Sotto. Wang, Zhang, Watanabe and Hachimura plays like a modern-day forward; good ball handler, can shoot from the three-point line, can penetrate and finish strong while in defense they can defend pick and roll, perimeter and inside the paint. For Edu and Kai they are more of a center but Edu can defend the pick and roll, inside the paint up to the 3-point line, it's his offense who needs improvement..
    that's an objective and accurate assessment.
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    Arakji is getting better in the Chinese league.Hopefully we can get some relatively young players (Parks,CJ Perez,K.Ravena,Bolick) or our young players (De Liano etc.) better.

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    Off-topic: South Korea beat our azkals 1-0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex07 View Post
    Arakji is getting better in the Chinese league.Hopefully we can get some relatively young players (Parks,CJ Perez,K.Ravena,Bolick) or our young players (De Liano etc.) better.

    to our lebanese friends so arakji is receiving more money in cba than riyadi?
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    wow the Spurs have turned around things with unlikely names - White, Poeltl and Bertans.. Pop just finds a way of staying relevant https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019...ctations-again

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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    wow the Spurs have turned around things with unlikely names - White, Poeltl and Bertans.. Pop just finds a way of staying relevant https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019...ctations-again
    The way the second unit of the Spurs with no real "stars" ( Mills, Bertans, Poetl, Benneli) or talented creators are outscoring oppoenents is an interesting aspect of how the game has evolved. (The Gasols who one would consdier still a good go to guy at the high post is no longer an analytically good approach) , I've witnessed a high school team associated with litterally upset one team after another based on an approach centered around transtion and agreesive defense. (spreading the court and shooting before defense get set)
    In the new year i ran scrimmage of young kids ( 16 year olds) play against a roster of 20 year olds who had reputations as good one on one scorers (malakas some in UAAP ), the result we blew out the other team.. how? Approach... but of course with getting players who are familiar with the style.
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    Lol little did realize that there are 3 makers who can possibly name in australia team sooner rather than later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex07 View Post
    Arakji is getting better in the Chinese league.Hopefully we can get some relatively young players (Parks,CJ Perez,K.Ravena,Bolick) or our young players (De Liano etc.) better.

    CBA is a very soft league, but tons of money in it.
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    Makoto Hiejima Leaves Australia's NBL team Brisbane Bullets


    Bullets assistant coach Mick Downer summed it up best.

    “Makoto didn’t receive a lot of playing time opportunities because of our depth and (it’s) such a tough league,” Downer told The Japan Times on Sunday. “I think if we won a lot early in the season and had some wiggle room to play him into the rotation, it may have worked out differently, but the league is so close.”

    Hiejima is set to play the rest of the season with the B. League title-contending Tochigi Brex, whom he joined in the summer, then bolted for Australia to play for the Bullets. The Brex assured Hiejima he was free to rejoin the team at any time.

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    Another mainlander playing in the NCAA. Looks like China can already form a frontcourt rotation of players with US experience. Kevin Zhang (Tulane), Michael Wang (Penn), Michael Ou (CSUN), Harold Yu (Sierra Canyon) and this player below, Johnny Wang of Cal State Fullerton.

    No matter how many times we reboot or how much money we pour into the 23 for 23/ncc/gilas or whatever term we coin for it, it'll be hard for us to be competitive against them if the quality of our players are nowhere near the level of their players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by c_d View Post
    Another mainlander playing in the NCAA. Looks like China can already form a frontcourt rotation of players with US experience. Kevin Zhang (Tulane), Michael Wang (Penn), Michael Ou (CSUN), Harold Yu (Sierra Canyon) and this player below, Johnny Wang of Cal State Fullerton.

    No matter how many times we reboot or how much money we pour into the 23 for 23/ncc/gilas or whatever term we coin for it, it'll be hard for us to be competitive against them if the quality of our players are nowhere near the level of their players.

    The scariest part of China is its leadership. Ever since Chairman Yao (Ming) took-over, he brought fresh ideas and modern thinking into the China basketball program. Gone are the days were the old geezers ran the hirarchy, almost like a politburo.

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    it would have been a lot easier if FIBA had its eligibility rules like before.I could just Imagine players like Millora-Brown and Christian David to add up talent and versatility into the mix of Sotto, Edu and Martin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotch View Post
    The scariest part of China is its leadership. Ever since Chairman Yao (Ming) took-over, he brought fresh ideas and modern thinking into the China basketball program. Gone are the days were the old geezers ran the hirarchy, almost like a politburo.
    Yao has made a series of proposals regarding reform of the national team, professional league operation and youth cultivation.

    "Before we choose the road for development, we need to make sure what fits us most and what prerequisites we already have," he said in the ceremony held at the Wanda Han Show Theater in Wuhan.

    The most attention-getting of Yao's reform measures is the formation of two national teams, each with an independent coaching staff and roster, to alternately represent China at international events through 2018. The move aims to motivate coaches and players by creating competition between the two squads and involving as many young players as possible.

    "Making the national team bigger and wider will enable us to see a clearer picture and make better choices," he said. The two teams are expected to merge for the 2019 FIBA World Cup and the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

    He said that some China University Basketball Association players have been allowed to play at the CBA All-Star Game because the CBA hopes to whip up basketball fever among Chinese schools and select more young rookies.

    "Basketball faces stiff competition from sectors such as electronics sports in attracting the young generation," he said. "That's why we will encourage Chinese basketball to continue its cooperation with the education and entertainment sectors to create a platform where kids can enjoy learning different things simultaneously," Yao promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_d View Post
    Another mainlander playing in the NCAA. Looks like China can already form a frontcourt rotation of players with US experience. Kevin Zhang (Tulane), Michael Wang (Penn), Michael Ou (CSUN), Harold Yu (Sierra Canyon) and this player below, Johnny Wang of Cal State Fullerton.

    No matter how many times we reboot or how much money we pour into the 23 for 23/ncc/gilas or whatever term we coin for it, it'll be hard for us to be competitive against them if the quality of our players are nowhere near the level of their players.

    Well its hard to beat a country with a billion population and a Communist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Well its hard to beat a country with a billion population and a Communist.
    But should't we produce more talent than a country with only 4 milion people ( 4 % of our population) that is democratic? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    But should't we produce more talent than a country with only 4 milion people ( 4 % of our population) that is democratic? Lol
    Well good point, but with China, its a different story it still has to do with Population density which means more people, with different physiques. Its still numbers game. And Chinese breed are naturally big and tall, especially those near the northern side.

    Compare it with small communist countries, like Vietnam, Angola, or Cuba, even with communist type of system, they still cannot produce allot of athlete who win gold because it is still the numbers game(its proves that Communism is a bust, not just evil , but that is a different story and I don't want to tackle about that). That is why population is still a factor.

    I'm still impress with Pilipinas sports achievement throughout history. It's just that we need good motivation and funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed View Post
    But should't we produce more talent than a country with only 4 milion people ( 4 % of our population) that is democratic? Lol
    Are you talking about your country New Zealand?

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