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  • Originally posted by Jazz View Post
    I looked it up, apparently Kangur will be a free agent while Moss has another year after this. But you're right, Siena's financial situation would make Moss available too.

    I can't see goga or Blatt being happy with Maccabi becoming more like Siena though...
    ahahaha u are 100%
    nor goga, nor blatt, would like a team like that, but what kind of team and bball are we playing? so i think continuing this way in summer market and on court from next october will be really crazy. in siena they builted a genial team, with no money. that should be our way, plus,goga will be here , but i'm not sure blatt will be our coach again
    so i guess for at least one eyear ,goga could accept maccabi will be a "slavian" team

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    • Once again, you have no clue what you are talking about. You don't know a single Israeli player. Naimy comes to your mind. Naimy and Ohayon both have started for Hapoel Jerusalem. OK, I could say, Ohayon went on to play for Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Naimy for Triumph and that would be enough of explanation but let's not be mean. Things happen. Naimy is a good shooter but less creative than Ohayon and less good on offense. Actually, Ohayon generates more offense than Naimy.

      Halperin is having a bad year with Bayern Munich, totally refusing to shoot the ball, while when he does, he does it not very well. A smart player who is never living up to his potential and right now is a bench player for a Bundesliga team.

      Eliyahu and Ohayon should play 5 minutes in the EL and be kept for domestic cometition? Quite an expensive luxury.

      Pnini? You did not even mention him.

      Alex Tyus? I like him explosiveness but he is imho not Maccabi material. All he can do is dunk. Not a bad defender but not a great one and no offense besides dunks.

      Casspi? Should he decide to come back, he would be a very good addition, if he doesn't try to play like he is in the NBA: shoot, shoot, shoot.

      After all, since you don't know Israeli players, you can'T even talk, which foreigners Maccabi needs as you don#t know the team's needs after it has selected its Israelis.

      Moss is okay but what should he do? Be a sub for Smith?
      Kangur is nothing Maccabi could use. He can only shoot, not drive not play strong defense.

      I think, Maccabi needs more athleticism at PF, a PF-shooter and a back-to-the-basket center. It needs another really good PG with a good and consistent outside shot. It needs a taller SG who can create the offense for himself (and his teammates). Smith and Pnini are good enough at SF. Hickman has some breakout games but all of his offense is one-on-one or one-on-all. He is simply unable to execute a pick'n roll, to play a simple pass. He is an erratic shooter. Logan has picked up his game lately but he can't be a player MTA should rely on. The above mentioned SG is needed. Landesberg is not on that level yet. He doesn#T dribble the ball, he doesn'T take his defender one-on-one. If he gets a free shot, fine. If not, fine, too. The wrong attitude. And his defense isn#t good. A shooting PF unlike Caner-Medley is needed. An athletic one as Thomas but with more brains. Paninic without nerves and stupid mistakes or a different center with a similar kind of game. James is a finesse center, MTA also needs a power center.

      Neither Siena's nor MTA's budget is low. They are in the upper third of the EL. They can't pay wages of millions but they have more money than most of EL teams.
      Maccabi becoming Siena? G-d, no! Siena has always had good players on both ends of the floor but they were never able to faciliate a balanced attack. That's why they couldn't ever win anything major. Only a great streak of sharp shoting games has put them in a good position right now. Normally, they wouldn't stand a chance to qualify for the next round.
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      • Originally posted by goga78 View Post
        Once again, you have no clue what you are talking about. You don't know a single Israeli player. Naimy comes to your mind. Naimy and Ohayon both have started for Hapoel Jerusalem. OK, I could say, Ohayon went on to play for Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Naimy for Triumph and that would be enough of explanation but let's not be mean. Things happen. Naimy is a good shooter but less creative than Ohayon and less good on offense. Actually, Ohayon generates more offense than Naimy.

        Halperin is having a bad year with Bayern Munich, totally refusing to shoot the ball, while when he does, he does it not very well. A smart player who is never living up to his potential and right now is a bench player for a Bundesliga team.

        Eliyahu and Ohayon should play 5 minutes in the EL and be kept for domestic cometition? Quite an expensive luxury.

        Pnini? You did not even mention him.

        Alex Tyus? I like him explosiveness but he is imho not Maccabi material. All he can do is dunk. Not a bad defender but not a great one and no offense besides dunks.

        Casspi? Should he decide to come back, he would be a very good addition, if he doesn't try to play like he is in the NBA: shoot, shoot, shoot.

        After all, since you don't know Israeli players, you can'T even talk, which foreigners Maccabi needs as you don#t know the team's needs after it has selected its Israelis.

        Moss is okay but what should he do? Be a sub for Smith?
        Kangur is nothing Maccabi could use. He can only shoot, not drive not play strong defense.

        I think, Maccabi needs more athleticism at PF, a PF-shooter and a back-to-the-basket center. It needs another really good PG with a good and consistent outside shot. It needs a taller SG who can create the offense for himself (and his teammates). Smith and Pnini are good enough at SF. Hickman has some breakout games but all of his offense is one-on-one or one-on-all. He is simply unable to execute a pick'n roll, to play a simple pass. He is an erratic shooter. Logan has picked up his game lately but he can't be a player MTA should rely on. The above mentioned SG is needed. Landesberg is not on that level yet. He doesn#T dribble the ball, he doesn'T take his defender one-on-one. If he gets a free shot, fine. If not, fine, too. The wrong attitude. And his defense isn#t good. A shooting PF unlike Caner-Medley is needed. An athletic one as Thomas but with more brains. Paninic without nerves and stupid mistakes or a different center with a similar kind of game. James is a finesse center, MTA also needs a power center.

        Neither Siena's nor MTA's budget is low. They are in the upper third of the EL. They can't pay wages of millions but they have more money than most of EL teams.
        Maccabi becoming Siena? G-d, no! Siena has always had good players on both ends of the floor but they were never able to faciliate a balanced attack. That's why they couldn't ever win anything major. Only a great streak of sharp shoting games has put them in a good position right now. Normally, they wouldn't stand a chance to qualify for the next round.
        naymi-ohayon, are even not comparable. it was enough to see naimy two times, to get how much better than ohayon is.
        halperin. i named him because israeli player and with great talent. so, i'd add him just because i have to consider il players and as israeli i prefere him than ely (u know im not a fan of ely. a discontinuos player a smooth defender)
        tyus: i'm agree with u. i named him becvause israeli and that's why i wrote ,i could accept him just in case james will stay. he is simply a bench center. considering we have planninic, tyus can surely stay in our roster
        casspi? i dodnt name him. impossibile he will come back
        smith and moss could perfectly cover that position sharing their time. anyway moss is imho much better than smith
        kangur. just a shooter? yes, thats what we need. shooters, shooters ,shooters. no team has less shooters than us. all teams search for shooters even in pf and c position
        ayway i'm learining u are still asking for for athleticism. blatt should contact u as his perfect third man. the greatest mta's problem is that we based our roster on athleticism and muscles, no talent
        p.s. landesberg is a great player. unfortunatly blatt doesnt know it, but blatt is not getting main bball rules lately

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        • plus, we need a great scorer. without at least one real high level scorer no chance for playoff next year too. not writing of greatest teams like barca, real, cska, but writing of simply good teams: siena-brown, oly- spanoulis,efes-farmar, zalgiris-popovic

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          • Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
            naymi-ohayon, are even not comparable. it was enough to see naimy two times, to get how much better than ohayon is.
            In which games exactly did you see him? Naimy is an undersized shooter. Not a bad player but not a playmaker. How far can you go in the EL with a tweener, a player trapped in the wrong body without presenting a matchup problem (like a sharp shooting PF)? Right now, Naimy is coming off the bench for Triumph, one of the weaker Russian teams (#7 in Russia and #6 in its group in the VTB). For me, Naimy is not EL material, because he presents a negative matchup for his team on that level.

            halperin. i named him because israeli player and with great talent. so, i'd add him just because i have to consider il players and as israeli i prefere him than ely (u know im not a fan of ely. a discontinuos player a smooth defender)
            I like Halperin. A very smart player who makes his teammates better. But the man has not enough self-confidence (or positive egoism) that is needed for a SG. Defensively, he is not better than Eliyahu who has made a big progress since last summer. After all, playing his third year under Blatt can't leave a player reluctant to defense, whether individual or team defense. Still, he is not a good defender. Average. In some games he is good, in some he is awful. Halperin is getting constantly blown by guards in Germany. Halperin is imho very good for team chemistry and needs smart players around him to produce. He has taken several steps back in the last years, playing in subpar roles or for subpar teams. Not sure, he can make a comeback at Maccabi. No starter material anymore (not physically but mentally). Put Eliyahu on any team and he will score. That's his mentality.

            tyus: i'm agree with u. i named him becvause israeli and that's why i wrote ,i could accept him just in case james will stay. he is simply a bench center. considering we have planninic, tyus can surely stay in our roster
            It depends on whether Maccabi will have a smart passing PF or not. With players like Hickman around him, Tyus will give you below 4 ppg and 4 rpg per game.

            casspi? i dodnt name him. impossibile he will come back
            I think, Casspi just wants to play. Imho he will make one last attempt at the NBA, trying to change his team. If this doesn't work, he will come back.

            smith and moss could perfectly cover that position sharing their time. anyway moss is imho much better than smith
            Moss is what? If we take aside your sincere belief that every year Maccabi's players are "dramatic" and worse than any of its opponents, there is nothing that would prove your assumption. Smith has been a great scorer throughout his whole career but he has developed into a very good defender, not having lost his knock for scoring. Different than Moss, Smith has to facilitate his offense by his own more often than not because aside from Ohayon, the rest of Maccabi's players are not really good passers. Plus, Smith is showing for the second year in a row to step up his games when it counts. Moss has taken a step back. But even if we consider Moss to be an adequate player, there is no need to substitute one for another.

            kangur. just a shooter? yes, thats what we need. shooters, shooters ,shooters. no team has less shooters than us. all teams search for shooters even in pf and c position
            Kangur is a player for a "drive and kick out" team. He is a bad defender, a bad dribbler, and the rest of his game is average or below. Yes, you can have such a specialist on your team. But while on offense he can open up space, how many points does his team concede on defense, while he is on the floor? Pnini is the same kind of player as Kangur in the shooting department. Put him on a team, where he is getting free shots all the time and he will do the same stuff.

            ayway i'm learining u are still asking for for athleticism. blatt should contact u as his perfect third man. the greatest mta's problem is that we based our roster on athleticism and muscles, no talent
            p.s. landesberg is a great player. unfortunatly blatt doesnt know it, but blatt is not getting main bball rules lately
            Main bball rules is playing the best way suitable for your players' talents and winning. That is what Blatt is trying to do throughout his whole career. He has been watching Landesberg for two years in Israel. Remember Chester Simmons, who used to rock the Israeli league? EL was too high of level for him. Now, I think that Landesberg can succeed here but he needs a phase of acclimatization. He is a good scorer (unproven on EL level, as he does never facilitate his offense) but a bad defender. Look at the difference between him and Smith being on the floor. He is learning. I'm sure, next years he will have a different role.
            Athleticism does not exclude IQ. Much less talent. This is a stupid assumption.

            Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
            plus, we need a great scorer. without at least one real high level scorer no chance for playoff next year too. not writing of greatest teams like barca, real, cska, but writing of simply good teams: siena-brown, oly- spanoulis,efes-farmar, zalgiris-popovic
            Yes, we need an SG who can create his own offense while not being as dumb in the playmaking department as Hickman is. And he has to be a better shooter (not only scorer but also shooter). No Popovic-types of players. Tweeners who depend on their own shot way too much, can bury their teams on a cod day, can't do much else. Spanoulis is a good defender and a clever passer. That is what makes him so dangerous. Would he be just a scorer, he would have been much easier to contain. Brown is having a great year after so many years of failure. A great individual talent that has finally shown he can lead a team. But he is a PG and I wouldn't want a PG to be my team's main scorer. Such teams never go far, since when this particular player has an off day, his team is lost. He is involving his teammates only through his own successful offense. Remember Terell McIntyre? Bo McCalebb? Very similar player's types for Siena. Farmar is not a great defender. A great offensive player on the wrong position. He is not a pass-first PG and thus is hurting his team quite a lot, when he is trying to force things.

            All players you have listed are PGs. Top-scoring PGs.
            Funny side note: you have already listed three Siena players you want in Maccabi. While Brown is understandable, albeit a risky player in set plays, Moss and Kangur...? But you would also want Ortner and Eze for Maccabi. On the other hand, would they play for Maccabi, you wouldn't want them.

            Last but not least, the assumption that Maccabi has no shooters... Since you are always talking about threes, how do you consider Barcelona, Khimki, Efes, Fener to be in that department? Are you aware of Maccabi having hit more threes than those teams? Are you aware of MTA being #4 in 3PT % in the EL, #3 of all Top 16 teams? #5 scoring team, while not having played an OT like teams before it?

            Siena 2 OT: 12+10 = 22
            CSKA 2 OT: 14+12 = 26
            Real 1 OT: 20

            If we substract these extra points, we have:

            Siena 1552
            Barcelona 1515
            Maccabi 1496
            Real 1487
            CSKA 1484

            What I rather lack is the means to go to the FT. Aside of Hickman and James, there is no one who would go to the line consistently.

            Maccabi surely have deficiencies, not the best roster and several failures. For example, Pnini and Caner-Medley were intended to be outside threats. While Pnini maneuvred himself out with his unsportsmanlike behaviour in the Israeli league, Caner-Medley simply lacks brains to have proper shots. He is an all-power player with big desire but no moves and a shaky shot. As everyone could assume before this season, they both should spread the floor and combine for like 3 3PTs per game. But they combine for just 1.2 3PT per game. I'm not even talking about Landesberg.
            burnstein

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            • Originally posted by goga78 View Post
              In which games exactly did you see him? Naimy is an undersized shooter. Not a bad player but not a playmaker. How far can you go in the EL with a tweener, a player trapped in the wrong body without presenting a matchup problem (like a sharp shooting PF)? Right now, Naimy is coming off the bench for Triumph, one of the weaker Russian teams (#7 in Russia and #6 in its group in the VTB). For me, Naimy is not EL material, because he presents a negative matchup for his team on that level.



              I like Halperin. A very smart player who makes his teammates better. But the man has not enough self-confidence (or positive egoism) that is needed for a SG. Defensively, he is not better than Eliyahu who has made a big progress since last summer. After all, playing his third year under Blatt can't leave a player reluctant to defense, whether individual or team defense. Still, he is not a good defender. Average. In some games he is good, in some he is awful. Halperin is getting constantly blown by guards in Germany. Halperin is imho very good for team chemistry and needs smart players around him to produce. He has taken several steps back in the last years, playing in subpar roles or for subpar teams. Not sure, he can make a comeback at Maccabi. No starter material anymore (not physically but mentally). Put Eliyahu on any team and he will score. That's his mentality.



              It depends on whether Maccabi will have a smart passing PF or not. With players like Hickman around him, Tyus will give you below 4 ppg and 4 rpg per game.



              I think, Casspi just wants to play. Imho he will make one last attempt at the NBA, trying to change his team. If this doesn't work, he will come back.



              Moss is what? If we take aside your sincere belief that every year Maccabi's players are "dramatic" and worse than any of its opponents, there is nothing that would prove your assumption. Smith has been a great scorer throughout his whole career but he has developed into a very good defender, not having lost his knock for scoring. Different than Moss, Smith has to facilitate his offense by his own more often than not because aside from Ohayon, the rest of Maccabi's players are not really good passers. Plus, Smith is showing for the second year in a row to step up his games when it counts. Moss has taken a step back. But even if we consider Moss to be an adequate player, there is no need to substitute one for another.



              Kangur is a player for a "drive and kick out" team. He is a bad defender, a bad dribbler, and the rest of his game is average or below. Yes, you can have such a specialist on your team. But while on offense he can open up space, how many points does his team concede on defense, while he is on the floor? Pnini is the same kind of player as Kangur in the shooting department. Put him on a team, where he is getting free shots all the time and he will do the same stuff.



              Main bball rules is playing the best way suitable for your players' talents and winning. That is what Blatt is trying to do throughout his whole career. He has been watching Landesberg for two years in Israel. Remember Chester Simmons, who used to rock the Israeli league? EL was too high of level for him. Now, I think that Landesberg can succeed here but he needs a phase of acclimatization. He is a good scorer (unproven on EL level, as he does never facilitate his offense) but a bad defender. Look at the difference between him and Smith being on the floor. He is learning. I'm sure, next years he will have a different role.
              Athleticism does not exclude IQ. Much less talent. This is a stupid assumption.



              Yes, we need an SG who can create his own offense while not being as dumb in the playmaking department as Hickman is. And he has to be a better shooter (not only scorer but also shooter). No Popovic-types of players. Tweeners who depend on their own shot way too much, can bury their teams on a cod day, can't do much else. Spanoulis is a good defender and a clever passer. That is what makes him so dangerous. Would he be just a scorer, he would have been much easier to contain. Brown is having a great year after so many years of failure. A great individual talent that has finally shown he can lead a team. But he is a PG and I wouldn't want a PG to be my team's main scorer. Such teams never go far, since when this particular player has an off day, his team is lost. He is involving his teammates only through his own successful offense. Remember Terell McIntyre? Bo McCalebb? Very similar player's types for Siena. Farmar is not a great defender. A great offensive player on the wrong position. He is not a pass-first PG and thus is hurting his team quite a lot, when he is trying to force things.

              All players you have listed are PGs. Top-scoring PGs.
              Funny side note: you have already listed three Siena players you want in Maccabi. While Brown is understandable, albeit a risky player in set plays, Moss and Kangur...? But you would also want Ortner and Eze for Maccabi. On the other hand, would they play for Maccabi, you wouldn't want them.

              Last but not least, the assumption that Maccabi has no shooters... Since you are always talking about threes, how do you consider Barcelona, Khimki, Efes, Fener to be in that department? Are you aware of Maccabi having hit more threes than those teams? Are you aware of MTA being #4 in 3PT % in the EL, #3 of all Top 16 teams? #5 scoring team, while not having played an OT like teams before it?

              Siena 2 OT: 12+10 = 22
              CSKA 2 OT: 14+12 = 26
              Real 1 OT: 20

              If we substract these extra points, we have:

              Siena 1552
              Barcelona 1515
              Maccabi 1496
              Real 1487
              CSKA 1484

              What I rather lack is the means to go to the FT. Aside of Hickman and James, there is no one who would go to the line consistently.

              Maccabi surely have deficiencies, not the best roster and several failures. For example, Pnini and Caner-Medley were intended to be outside threats. While Pnini maneuvred himself out with his unsportsmanlike behaviour in the Israeli league, Caner-Medley simply lacks brains to have proper shots. He is an all-power player with big desire but no moves and a shaky shot. As everyone could assume before this season, they both should spread the floor and combine for like 3 3PTs per game. But they combine for just 1.2 3PT per game. I'm not even talking about Landesberg.
              i didnt write naimy is a great player. is a good player much better that ohayon. naimy plays in a weak team? well, ohayon plays el just because of blatt. he wouldnt play in any italian first division team.
              halpaerin again, not a star but a better israeli than ely
              casspi yes will come back in eu, not in mta.
              smith? look at his usual stas . in 2/3 of the season he is nothing. 1/3 of the season he coma out. not enough for a player who should be one of the main palyers. moss is a solid defensive player, witha great shoot and energy. rarely fail matches. smith often fails matches.
              never write of Ortner and Eze.
              siena? yes i exteem whast they have done with their budget. is a miracle! siena is based on, one star, a great defense, great shooters
              they understood builting a strong classical team with no money is impossible. thats what we should learn.

              no,blatt is not coaching players owners gave him or he find when he came. he personally choose players who fit for is basket. he is guilty for our last markets, adding phisical players, defensive players, muscles, without talent, and no scorer, no shooters.
              again :
              papa in
              ohayon in
              james out (where he was last year when we were in trouble with sofo?)
              macvan out
              panninic in
              shermadini out
              tal in
              thomas in
              and much more

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              • Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
                i didnt write naimy is a great player. is a good player much better that ohayon. naimy plays in a weak team? well, ohayon plays el just because of blatt. he wouldnt play in any italian first division team.
                Yeah, we've heared this BS before. Aside from playing an improved season from his rookie year, getting a very expensive contract offer by Kuban, getting singled out praise by coach Zelimir Obradovic etc, Ohayon is a bottom Second Italian League material. He is playing EL because he is able to play on this level, serving his team in several functions. His shooting percentages have went up dramatically, he is better in finishing at the rim than before, he is a very alert defender, who manage to completely shut down Bobby Brown (who else has done so?). Like him or not but he is clearly all that written above. Naimy being much better? He has to prove it first. For example, in the NT.

                halpaerin again, not a star but a better israeli than ely
                Both players absolutely cannot be compared since their game is so different and they are playing on totally different positions.

                casspi yes will come back in eu, not in mta.
                Probably. But I think Maccabi would find the money to please him. He is a home town boy, an NBA player, the best Israeli player. This brings a lot of revenue.

                smith? look at his usual stas . in 2/3 of the season he is nothing. 1/3 of the season he coma out. not enough for a player who should be one of the main palyers. moss is a solid defensive player, witha great shoot and energy. rarely fail matches. smith often fails matches.
                never write of Ortner and Eze.
                Well, somehow Smith has better stats despite playing less. mith is very solid throughout the season. The aforementioned 1/3rd of the season, is exactly the time when it matters, when the rotation tightens and inividual players have to step up his game. That's what good players do. Apparently, you don't understand Smith's value for this team.

                siena? yes i exteem whast they have done with their budget. is a miracle! siena is based on, one star, a great defense, great shooters
                they understood builting a strong classical team with no money is impossible. thats what we should learn.
                Another BS. Siena has a similar budget to Maccabi's. Thy have built a good but not great team that totally depends on its shooting. A highly mediocre regular season and then a good run in the beginning of the next round. Everything was falling a Siena has scored some close-knit victories. When their shooting has dropped, they lost big time. A miracle might be a Final Four participation with such a limited roster but surely not their succss in the Top 16 up to date.

                no,blatt is not coaching players owners gave him or he find when he came. he personally choose players who fit for is basket. he is guilty for our last markets, adding phisical players, defensive players, muscles, without talent, and no scorer, no shooters.
                Well, without talent you can'tbe in the final game or one basket away from the Final Four in every season.
                Blatt has to cope with players the management is giving him. The management has a major word in player selection. Blatt cannot just demand players he wants to have on his roster.

                again :
                papa in - unnecessary move
                ohayon in - great move
                james out (where he was last year when we were in trouble with sofo?) - needed time to adjust during his rookie season, having lots of problems on O and D. I hope, Landesberg will take the same path from sub with weaknesses to a major contributo next year.
                macvan out - wrong player, nothing really special.Weakst plaer on that roster two years ago.
                panninic in - right now he might look like the wrong move but he was signed primarily for the next two season. When he stops trembling and sarts playing like he has already shown in more familiar surroundings, he will be good.
                shermadini out - wrong player. no power, no athleticism, slow legs. costs too much. Maccabi wante to go with his height but he has failed big time. Not only his fault. Hickman is not a player who can set up his teammates, especially big guys. No pick'n rolls, no simple passes down low. Hickman was the main player with the most minutes and the most points, when Shermadini was on board. In that time, Shermadini has looked like MAccabi's worst big guy.
                tal in - a move for an experienced Israeli player. An experienced tall guard, who has played a solid season in Spain before, signed primarily for domestic purposes. In the EL, he was intended just to bring in his experienc, nothing else. He did all that. Was it a right move instead of signing an Israeli newbee? Probably not but it is debatable. It has its pros and contras.

                thomas in - Thomas was really good in th beginning of the season, much better than Shermadini but ultimately he has lost self-confidence. Not the right signing but one that was done out of necessity in the last moment, when Mensa-Bonsu could not be signed.
                and much more[/QUOTE]

                You have your own beliefs and wishful thinking and totally neglect the context. Go on.
                burnstein

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                • Originally posted by goga78 View Post
                  Yeah, we've heared this BS before. Aside from playing an improved season from his rookie year, getting a very expensive contract offer by Kuban, getting singled out praise by coach Zelimir Obradovic etc, Ohayon is a bottom Second Italian League material. He is playing EL because he is able to play on this level, serving his team in several functions. His shooting percentages have went up dramatically, he is better in finishing at the rim than before, he is a very alert defender, who manage to completely shut down Bobby Brown (who else has done so?). Like him or not but he is clearly all that written above. Naimy being much better? He has to prove it first. For example, in the NT.



                  Both players absolutely cannot be compared since their game is so different and they are playing on totally different positions.



                  Probably. But I think Maccabi would find the money to please him. He is a home town boy, an NBA player, the best Israeli player. This brings a lot of revenue.



                  Well, somehow Smith has better stats despite playing less. mith is very solid throughout the season. The aforementioned 1/3rd of the season, is exactly the time when it matters, when the rotation tightens and inividual players have to step up his game. That's what good players do. Apparently, you don't understand Smith's value for this team.



                  Another BS. Siena has a similar budget to Maccabi's. Thy have built a good but not great team that totally depends on its shooting. A highly mediocre regular season and then a good run in the beginning of the next round. Everything was falling a Siena has scored some close-knit victories. When their shooting has dropped, they lost big time. A miracle might be a Final Four participation with such a limited roster but surely not their succss in the Top 16 up to date.



                  Well, without talent you can'tbe in the final game or one basket away from the Final Four in every season.
                  Blatt has to cope with players the management is giving him. The management has a major word in player selection. Blatt cannot just demand players he wants to have on his roster.

                  again :
                  papa in - unnecessary move
                  ohayon in - great move
                  james out (where he was last year when we were in trouble with sofo?) - needed time to adjust during his rookie season, having lots of problems on O and D. I hope, Landesberg will take the same path from sub with weaknesses to a major contributo next year.
                  macvan out - wrong player, nothing really special.Weakst plaer on that roster two years ago.
                  panninic in - right now he might look like the wrong move but he was signed primarily for the next two season. When he stops trembling and sarts playing like he has already shown in more familiar surroundings, he will be good.
                  shermadini out - wrong player. no power, no athleticism, slow legs. costs too much. Maccabi wante to go with his height but he has failed big time. Not only his fault. Hickman is not a player who can set up his teammates, especially big guys. No pick'n rolls, no simple passes down low. Hickman was the main player with the most minutes and the most points, when Shermadini was on board. In that time, Shermadini has looked like MAccabi's worst big guy.
                  tal in - a move for an experienced Israeli player. An experienced tall guard, who has played a solid season in Spain before, signed primarily for domestic purposes. In the EL, he was intended just to bring in his experienc, nothing else. He did all that. Was it a right move instead of signing an Israeli newbee? Probably not but it is debatable. It has its pros and contras.

                  thomas in - Thomas was really good in th beginning of the season, much better than Shermadini but ultimately he has lost self-confidence. Not the right signing but one that was done out of necessity in the last moment, when Mensa-Bonsu could not be signed.
                  and much more
                  You have your own beliefs and wishful thinking and totally neglect the context. Go on.[/QUOTE]
                  what is simply fantastic reading by u, is that for u ,nothing wrong in mta.

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                  • Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
                    You have your own beliefs and wishful thinking and totally neglect the context. Go on.
                    what is simply fantastic reading by u, is that for u ,nothing wrong in mta.[/QUOTE]

                    Well, you are once again the only one to understand things in your own very special way.
                    Lot's of things went wrong for Maccabi, did not go the way intended. Hickman is not a facilitator of offense for his teammates. Logan was signed only because of the Ohayon saga. Same goes to Roth. Thomas had to be signed in the last minute because the Mensa-Bonsu deal fell through. Pnini did his on cout antics in the Israeli league, depriving his team of a SF/PF sub with lethal three-point shooting, court vision and cojones. Caner-Medley proved to be a bust, which nobody could predict. Shermadini proved to be absolute unable to move his feet on offense and facilitate the offense for himself, since having no one to play pick'n roll with. Landesberg is behaving totally like a rookie, being too timid and too shy to do anything with the ball. Did you predict it? You found Shermadini, Hickman, Caner-Medley signings to be absolutely great.

                    Still, these mistakes have been done in September. We have March now and Maccabi has to play what it has on its roster and we have to support it, no matter what. Otherwise, we couldn't call ourselves fans. Since the guys in yellow jerseys don't give up, giving all they have on the court, destroying Siena, beating Caja Laboral on the road, they leave themselves a chance to advance. If you don't believe in chances, you understand the concept of sports in the wrong way. Just don't wantch their games. Personally, I know, it will be a rocky road. Unfortunately, Maccabi has lost to Khimki by a lot. Not that Maccabi has never landed tough home victories with big margins, but it will be very tough. Fenerbahce is finally winning some games, Olympiacos and Barcelona on the road are very hard nuts to crack, while Besiktas is an easier job to be done. Still, a tough schedule ahead but I have to believe in it and go game-by-game, the same way my favourite team does. The most stupid thing I could do would be speaking of player selection or whatever has happened more than half-a-year ago. When the season is over, then it is the right time to stress these things.
                    burnstein

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                    • Originally posted by goga78 View Post
                      what is simply fantastic reading by u, is that for u ,nothing wrong in mta.
                      Well, you are once again the only one to understand things in your own very special way.
                      Lot's of things went wrong for Maccabi, did not go the way intended. Hickman is not a facilitator of offense for his teammates. Logan was signed only because of the Ohayon saga. Same goes to Roth. Thomas had to be signed in the last minute because the Mensa-Bonsu deal fell through. Pnini did his on cout antics in the Israeli league, depriving his team of a SF/PF sub with lethal three-point shooting, court vision and cojones. Caner-Medley proved to be a bust, which nobody could predict. Shermadini proved to be absolute unable to move his feet on offense and facilitate the offense for himself, since having no one to play pick'n roll with. Landesberg is behaving totally like a rookie, being too timid and too shy to do anything with the ball. Did you predict it? You found Shermadini, Hickman, Caner-Medley signings to be absolutely great.

                      Still, these mistakes have been done in September. We have March now and Maccabi has to play what it has on its roster and we have to support it, no matter what. Otherwise, we couldn't call ourselves fans. Since the guys in yellow jerseys don't give up, giving all they have on the court, destroying Siena, beating Caja Laboral on the road, they leave themselves a chance to advance. If you don't believe in chances, you understand the concept of sports in the wrong way. Just don't wantch their games. Personally, I know, it will be a rocky road. Unfortunately, Maccabi has lost to Khimki by a lot. Not that Maccabi has never landed tough home victories with big margins, but it will be very tough. Fenerbahce is finally winning some games, Olympiacos and Barcelona on the road are very hard nuts to crack, while Besiktas is an easier job to be done. Still, a tough schedule ahead but I have to believe in it and go game-by-game, the same way my favourite team does. The most stupid thing I could do would be speaking of player selection or whatever has happened more than half-a-year ago. When the season is over, then it is the right time to stress these things.[/QUOTE]
                      "destroying Siena"...u probably didnt get siena is going to playoff instead of us.
                      yes i wrote hickman was a very good add but being honest i know how to change idea. i dont change idea on sherma who is imo, one of best euro c. so let me say i m always ready to change opinion. first perkins matches with us were dramatic. i was later ready to write how great was him. after james first matches i tought he was a very weak center, now how can i say it? so, u should consider i'm always ready to consider what court say. i have to say for u blatt have just done great things.u still justify thomas , papa, ohayon, even pop, even tal, even lasme.u still justify we added farmar misconsidering what meant his obvious coming back to nba for a team who started season with him. i wonder what u would write if mta ojne day would add navarro and lorbeck! u dont see blatt's unique bball way of play. europe is playing a perimetral bball. we play a "paintbball" but for u the geniuos is blatt.
                      u justify logan add because of ohayon saga? well considering ohayon, saga i added somebody else instead of ohayon.
                      for u planninic is a god player who si simply having problems,altoguht is so clear he is not a bball player for this levels.
                      but i could say much more to underline you straight view about mta.no way. for u mta is still a great team with a great coach with our historical geniality on market while u re not realizing mta is getting a mediocre team and we are gradually rewriting our history continuing this policy

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                      • You are not familiar with the rules of quoting, are you?

                        Look, everything you ar writing is pure BS you really want to believe in. I have mentioned numerous times, what I think is wrong with the current roster. But, there is a big but. I don't care about it now, since MTA has to play with what it has and I will support the players in yellow. After the season, I will talk about whom I think it would be wise to release and whom to keep.

                        The whole Europe is playing a style of basketball that is fitting for the set of players a team has. Please, comment the fact that MAccabi hits more threes than Barcelona on a better percentage. Barcelona is "misconsidering th arch"? Bad players, bad coaching? No success?

                        Yes, destroying Siena. Siena lives and dies with its three. Not evn percentage-wise. They have to hit a lot of them in each game. Early in the Top 16 it has worked. Right now, it's working less well. The regular season was mediocre, full of defeats to minor teams. Siena has a good pad of wins for the playoffs now but nothing is decided yet.

                        BTW, Shermadini has never cracked an EL starting lineup. One of the very best centers. Yeah. A good one in the right system for him but one with a lot of shortcomings.
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                        • "Perimetral basket", my ass... Content today? 15/27 threes. 15/22 threes by the player who were actually shooting a lot.

                          Where is Shermadini? Getting less and less playing time? Maccabi got today a big boost by Roth and Pnaninic off the bench. Actually, Roth is the best pick'n roll player on the team, as we could already have witnessed when... right, as both teams have met in Tel-Aviv. Once again Hickman was having a fiesta against Fener. Good to see him being back on track with his offense. But he still can't pass straight. Planinic was active on the boards, was scoring at will, playing good D. Good job.

                          Of course, the rest wasn't disappointing, too. Eliyahu seems not to be 100% after his injury some weeks ago. Caner-Medley is simply not EL material. A clueless player, knowing only one speed, while having no moves at all. But he is playing with high energy, at least trying to help. He should cut better to the basket without the ball. That's where he could score points and draw fouls, instead of failing one-on-one everytime.

                          Congratulations, Maccabi! Make the impossible once again possible next week!
                          burnstein

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                          • Originally posted by goga78 View Post
                            "Perimetral basket", my ass... Content today? 15/27 threes. 15/22 threes by the player who were actually shooting a lot.

                            Where is Shermadini? Getting less and less playing time? Maccabi got today a big boost by Roth and Pnaninic off the bench. Actually, Roth is the best pick'n roll player on the team, as we could already have witnessed when... right, as both teams have met in Tel-Aviv. Once again Hickman was having a fiesta against Fener. Good to see him being back on track with his offense. But he still can't pass straight. Planinic was active on the boards, was scoring at will, playing good D. Good job.

                            Of course, the rest wasn't disappointing, too. Eliyahu seems not to be 100% after his injury some weeks ago. Caner-Medley is simply not EL material. A clueless player, knowing only one speed, while having no moves at all. But he is playing with high energy, at least trying to help. He should cut better to the basket without the ball. That's where he could score points and draw fouls, instead of failing one-on-one everytime.

                            Congratulations, Maccabi! Make the impossible once again possible next week!
                            barca/mta . oh yeah, BUT: u are comparing mta with just one team and anyway if i consider usual 3 point attempiting lately, not just about one season, u'll discover they attempt more than us. anyway if u need to write about on only team to show me blatt knows and also perimetral option, this is a prove i'm right.
                            plus plus plus in blatt era, we are penultimate team (average obviously) in 3pt att.

                            to go to poff, we still need to win overkinki and oly . if not we are out. hoping in a miracle ,but i prefere consider things rationally and anyway in every case, i must weight all things that are making us hoping in a miracle to go to playoff.
                            this morning i'd like to write of logan: i dont like him. when a player just has one lonely quality,i have to consier him mediocre. said that, in a team without shooters, one player whio can invent long shoot is very important . so, if blatt will be again our coach(as i deeply didnt like) we will ned him considering surely blatt will misconsider again permeter. a player qwho can invent long shoot is necessary having no plans to score by perimeter

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                            • what do u think is better for us about kimki-siena? considering siena has last match in vitoria , being spanish surely already eliminated, i guess is better sien will win altought is hard

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                              • Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
                                barca/mta . oh yeah, BUT: u are comparing mta with just one team and anyway if i consider usual 3 point attempiting lately, not just about one season, u'll discover they attempt more than us. anyway if u need to write about on only team to show me blatt knows and also perimetral option, this is a prove i'm right.
                                plus plus plus in blatt era, we are penultimate team (average obviously) in 3pt att.
                                I have written down percentages, the number of threes made and several teams, who have less threes than MTA. You just have to start reading my posts more carefully. It's not like MTA doesn't score AND can't shoot threes. MTA has a good ppg, one of the top in the EL. It shoots with very good percentages, which is astonishing, considering its lack of centers or players with proper size in general. The points it doesn't make through threes, it has through twos.

                                to go to poff, we still need to win overkinki and oly . if not we are out. hoping in a miracle ,but i prefere consider things rationally and anyway in every case, i must weight all things that are making us hoping in a miracle to go to playoff.
                                No miracle, just all things coming together. Winning at home vs. Khimki is very much possible but considering the difference in the first leg game, it's going to be very tough to equalize it. Winning in Piraeus is possible but will surely be a hard task, too. Nobody has said that it's going to be easy. But for a team that has started with two one-piint home losses in two games it had to win, considering how the game went, then going down 1-4 and after that losing a close one to Barcelona, while beating out the crap of everyone else (also margin-wise), you can't say they aren't trying and aren't having success. Unfortunately, the toughest games will be on the road.


                                this morning i'd like to write of logan: i dont like him. when a player just has one lonely quality,i have to consier him mediocre. said that, in a team without shooters, one player whio can invent long shoot is very important . so, if blatt will be again our coach(as i deeply didnt like) we will ned him considering surely blatt will misconsider again permeter. a player qwho can invent long shoot is necessary having no plans to score by perimeter
                                Blatt uses the 3PT, when he has players who can distribute the ball well and players who can shoot well. Look at the Russian NT. Maccabi has some three point shooters but no pure specialists (although percentages are good). However, its primary ballhandler throughout the season, Hickman, doesn't see the court well and doesn't move the ball quickly enough. He is not a bad player and he is putting up decent stats, being clearly the best one-on-one player on this team but he does a lot of mistakes, when putting on playmaking duties. In that department, he is no match to Roth and Ohayon who are pass first PGs.

                                I have already written about Pnini, Caner-Medley and Landesberg who were signed for spreading the floor (among other things) but did not work out for one or another reason. Maccabi has its best chances in the paint and is using them well. You rather have to consider this a miracle because Maccabi has neither size nor scoring back-to-the-basket centers etc.
                                burnstein

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