Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 25

Thread: A israeli center in missing! Award to the finders

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default A israeli center is missing! Award to the finders

    As I sure you all know, the jewish people always lack the height and the size.
    now days the Israeli bball is desperately need some big guy.
    The Israeli C is a rare animal maybe even does not exists in the high/medium levels.

    I call for all to keep looking for someone who can take some reb and play inside (someone with the right height) who his happen to be jewish .(or can have an Israeli passport)

    this tread will keep following and looking on potential big guys that can maybe be the salvation of the israeli bball.

    Players that I will keep following:
    Alex Tyus- (23,203 cm,PF/C)

    playing right now for maccabi ashdod from the Israeli first d. first year from collage. stats (from the moment of the post):
    11.2 pt,9.5 reb. he is in a process's to become jewish
    adventage: very young and already leading player in the israeli league with the most reb for Israeli.
    disadventege: not high enough. not a pure C althought he has inside game and reb skills.cus he is not local player he cant replace right now David Blu in the NT.




    Jake Cohen-(21.208;PF/C).
    played last year for the Israeli U20 team. scored 25 pt.



    Ben Altit- (18,208,C)

    played for Israel U 18 NT. scored not enough for his potentional.
    played last year for youth MTA and now move to collage of Miami if i remember currently.
    adventage- big size and height. great technical game play.
    disadventage- get out of the game early. not stable. get tired easily.



    Isaac Rosefelt -(26,204,PF/C)

    play for Hapoel Lev Hasharon from the Israeli second d.
    his stats:
    17.5 pts ,11 reb



    Alex chovrovich- (25,213,C)
    start playing bball in the age of 18. played untill recently in spain 3rd d.
    stats:
    10.8 pts, 8.9 reb
    this year he moved to the second d but because his team had finance problem he moved back to Hironi Ramat Gan from the Israeli second d.

    its in hebrew

    Robert Rothbart- (25,217,C/PF)
    .....dont know if he worth being in the list.



    Ram Eliasfur-(18,208,C)
    played for all Israel U NT.
    Played as a poster boy for Hapoel Jerusalem. move to play for Holland first d for Zevvilla (correct me if i am mistaken )

    Jeremiah Kreisberg (PF/C 207 106kg 1992)
    Played for Israel U20.(scored 15 pts with 8 and something reb). He was a McDonald’s All-America nominee in his high shool years. He has a nice frame with long arms. He start pretty well his sophomore season at Yale (so far 9pts & 7,5 rbs in 25 minutes per game). thanks for serbianhoops for bring his name and the info.
    first 25 sec

    Dane DiLiegro- (23. 207,110 kg,C)

    played last year for UNH
    Scored 8.7 pts with a 52% fg and 8.3 reb in 28.4 min.
    I lack a lot of info on him so please if you know something let me know.
    Plays in Italy...I think..
    Thanks for Czarkazem13 for the info.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAOsn7VfBo

    Aaron Liberman (PF/C 207cm 95kg)



    Aaron Liberman is a lengthy post player with long arms and an intriguing upside. He runs well in transition and is active at both ends. He has a nice touch in the paint area and rebounds fairly well in his area. Last year, he didn't plan to play in the post in college because of his weight (now 210 pounds), which didn't allow him to bang down low at that level. So he spent four hours a day during the summer working on his ball handling with a private coach, former Los Angeles Clipper Josh Moore. Due to faith reasons, he is in Israel since September and he is doing some weight training with a coach who was an Olimpic weight lifter in order to get stronger. In USA, while playing for Valley Torah, he has earned interest from Yale, Dartmouth, Boston College and Pepperdine. If he manage to fill out his body in order to play PF in college, I won't be surprise to see better NCAA program recruited him.

    After Jake Cohen and Jeremiah Kreisberg, I guess he will be the next american jew to play for Israel U20.
    *thanks to serbianhoops for the info




    add players and put more info on the players that were already mention.
    Last edited by cscarlos; 12-05-2011 at 06:33 AM.

  2. #2
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ljubljana
    Posts
    12,725
    Country: Slovenia

    Default

    What exactly happened to Kazarnovski? He use to be great at U20 level few years ago.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    80
    Country: Israel

    Default

    Elia sror-(16, 2.08)
    was in the u16 NT, and had avarage of 3.8 pts, 1.6.
    he does'nt look so good.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Joško Poljak Fan View Post
    What exactly happened to Kazarnovski? He use to be great at U20 level few years ago.
    huge Potential. didnt make it all worth out...

    say.. what can you add to Robert Rothbart info from this season in olimpija ljubljana?

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    80
    Country: Israel

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cscarlos View Post
    say.. what can you add to Robert Rothbart info from this season in olimpija ljubljana?
    like it seems he starts to use his potential, he doins alot for a few minutes.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    maybe some of our american friends can scout on some collage players that might be interesting

  7. #7
    Senior Member Jon_Koncak's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    1,781

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cscarlos View Post
    I call for all to keep looking for someone who can take some reb and play inside (someone with the right height) who his happen to be jewish .(or can have an Israeli passport)


    pretty good case.Jewish,starting center in Nba averagin 25.3 points,8 rebounds

  8. #8
    Senior Member MaccabiTA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    1,422
    Country: Israel

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post


    pretty good case.Jewish,starting center in Nba averagin 25.3 points,8 rebounds
    Can anybody convince him to play for the NT?

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    someone knows what happened to Jemy Harnold who played for Hulon last year?

    you know what...forget about it...old and not good anymore.

  10. #10
    Senior Member Czarkazem13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Fort Lauderdale
    Posts
    1,907

    Default

    I would add Dane DiLiegro (in Italy) and Nate Lubbick (Georgetown) to the list of possible future big men for Israel. Corbin Moore, also, may have potential. D'or Fischer, if he get's married, too.

    To bad Splitter is taken.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Czarkazem13 View Post
    I would add Dane DiLiegro (in Italy) and Nate Lubbick (Georgetown) to the list of possible future big men for Israel. Corbin Moore, also, may have potential. D'or Fischer, if he get's married, too.

    To bad Splitter is taken.
    from their stats its seems like they are not that great.....beside Dane (8.7 pts and 8 reb).
    interesting to see whats up with Fischer....he can help us alot in the NT....

  12. #12
    Senior Member Czarkazem13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Fort Lauderdale
    Posts
    1,907

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cscarlos View Post
    from their stats its seems like they are not that great.....beside Dane (8.7 pts and 8 reb).
    interesting to see whats up with Fischer....he can help us alot in the NT....
    Keep your eye on Lubbick, he will will be better than most of the names mentioned so far. You can't judge everything on just stats, plus he plays for Georgetown, which is a top-notch basketball school (oh yeah, and a good university too, if you care about such things).

    Moore has been kind of disapointing but he still has potential.

    Hope DiLiegro doesn't get lost in Italy like Paul Vitelli, though DiLiegro is needed much more. Then again, so was Alex Bougaieff.

    As for Fischer, I'm not totally sure on his status with his Israeli girlfriend, but his services would definitaly be welcomed.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Czarkazem13 View Post
    Keep your eye on Lubbick, he will will be better than most of the names mentioned so far. You can't judge everything on just stats, plus he plays for Georgetown, which is a top-notch basketball school (oh yeah, and a good university too, if you care about such things).

    Moore has been kind of disapointing but he still has potential.

    Hope DiLiegro doesn't get lost in Italy like Paul Vitelli, though DiLiegro is needed much more. Then again, so was Alex Bougaieff.

    As for Fischer, I'm not totally sure on his status with his Israeli girlfriend, but his services would definitaly be welcomed.
    I know stats are not everything but you brought me names of players that score 3 pts per game....and they are not in their first year in college....and if you forgot we are talking about players that have the potential to really help the israeli bball...because we have some mediocre C already....you got to ask...do they even good enough to play for Israel first division?

  14. #14
    Senior Member Czarkazem13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Fort Lauderdale
    Posts
    1,907

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cscarlos View Post
    I know stats are not everything but you brought me names of players that score 3 pts per game....and they are not in their first year in college....and if you forgot we are talking about players that have the potential to really help the israeli bball...because we have some mediocre C already....you got to ask...do they even good enough to play for Israel first division?
    I'm sorry, Lubbick scores three points per game?!

    The man is on some NBA teams watchlist. He's getting compared to Kevin Love with his style of play. He's a banger with a good post game. Solid rebounder and good passer for a big man. Plus he's Jewish. Yep, that wouldn't help Israel at all.

    Again, he is either already better than or will be better than pretty much all the names up there. The fact that he plays for one of the top Division I schools also matters. If he played in Division II like Rosefelt, or a small school like Cohen, he would have better numbers than them (of course, that's my opionion, but it's not exactly considered far-fetched).

    As far as Moore goes, I put his name in there since many of the names you brought up aren't going to be exaclty manning the middle for Israel either. DiLiegro is already better than most you addressed. I mean, why not bring up Anton Shouvton or Jan Martin (though I think he played for Spain U-21)?

    Playing in Israel's first division would be a let down for Lubbick. DiLiegro could play in the Israeli first division and Moore, we'll wait and see; However, again, you listed players that aren't even in the Israeli first division.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    442
    Country: Israel

    Default

    I'm sorry, Lubbick scores three points per game?!
    Actually he kinda does. 4 PPG in his rookie season and 4.6 PPG as a Sophomore this season.

    The man is on some NBA teams watchlist. He's getting compared to Kevin Love with his style of play. He's a banger with a good post game. Solid rebounder and good passer for a big man. Plus he's Jewish. Yep, that wouldn't help Israel at all.
    It is an insult to Kevin Love to be mentioned on the same forum page with Lubbick, let alone to be compared to him in any way.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...20/nate-lubick
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/...ege/kevin-love

    Playing in Israel's first division would be a let down for Lubbick.
    An insult again... Our league sucks balls, but not that much.

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    I think you think to highly about them and to low about the Israel league level.
    even if he is as great as you say there always Maccabi or jerusalem.
    Jan Martin is a SF/PF, he is not a big guy.

  17. #17
    Senior Member serbianhoops's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    869
    Country: Monaco

    Default

    Jeremiah Kreisberg (PF/C 207 106kg 1992)
    Played for Israel U20. He was a McDonald’s All-America nominee in his high shool years. He has a nice frame with long arms. He start pretty well his sophomore season at Yale (so far 9pts & 7,5 rbs in 25 minutes per game).

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...miah-kreisberg

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by serbianhoops View Post
    Jeremiah Kreisberg (PF/C 207 106kg 1992)
    Played for Israel U20. He was a McDonald’s All-America nominee in his high shool years. He has a nice frame with long arms. He start pretty well his sophomore season at Yale (so far 9pts & 7,5 rbs in 25 minutes per game).

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...miah-kreisberg
    Good choice...I will add him to my watchlist.

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    191

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Czarkazem13 View Post
    I'm sorry, Lubbick scores three points per game?!

    The man is on some NBA teams watchlist. He's getting compared to Kevin Love with his style of play. He's a banger with a good post game. Solid rebounder and good passer for a big man. Plus he's Jewish. Yep, that wouldn't help Israel at all.

    Again, he is either already better than or will be better than pretty much all the names up there. The fact that he plays for one of the top Division I schools also matters. If he played in Division II like Rosefelt, or a small school like Cohen, he would have better numbers than them (of course, that's my opionion, but it's not exactly considered far-fetched).

    As far as Moore goes, I put his name in there since many of the names you brought up aren't going to be exaclty manning the middle for Israel either. DiLiegro is already better than most you addressed. I mean, why not bring up Anton Shouvton or Jan Martin (though I think he played for Spain U-21)?

    Playing in Israel's first division would be a let down for Lubbick. DiLiegro could play in the Israeli first division and Moore, we'll wait and see; However, again, you listed players that aren't even in the Israeli first division.
    you know what...you are right that even those names are something...so we should consider them...but, let me know when they will be a leading players in their own teams.

  20. #20
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ljubljana
    Posts
    12,725
    Country: Slovenia

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cscarlos View Post
    huge Potential. didnt make it all worth out...

    say.. what can you add to Robert Rothbart info from this season in olimpija ljubljana?
    I don't think I can add much more most of you aren't already aware of.
    His head is in the right place, great guy, every aditional kg of body mass is welcome with him, he has good IQ and positions well on court, good leg work understands basketball abve average for such tal guy imo.

    Judging from some interviews Olimpija's staff is trying to prolongue the contract with him. If he would be able to gain just 5 kilos for example, his body weakness wouldn't dissapear but he'd do much better. As large % of centers tend to mature later nothing is lost with him yet.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •