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    Default Spain and Fyrom doping cases in Eurobasket 2011

    08-11-2011
    Two players have been found positive in doping tests during Eurobasket 2011 according to Lithuanian anti-doping agency.

    According to Eva Stanikuniene, the head of Lithuanian anti-doping agency, one of the player is Spanish and the other one a member of FYROM NT, but declined to reveal their names.

    According to her statements the players were found with "above the norm" quantities of banned substances in their organisms. The Lithuanian anti-doping agency sent the samples to FIBA Europe for further testing.

    If confirmed, and depending on the kind of drug in use, FIBA could ban those players with up to two years from any playing activity.

    The Spanish Basketball Federation said they contacted FIBA about the case but FIBA denied any contact with Lithuanian anti-doping agency.

    Source: AS
    http://www.talkbasket.net/6090-dopin...urobasket.html
    Its a shame for european basketball!!!
    Fiba Europe will try to cover the case.Thats for sure.the only fair thing is to take back the golden medal and the 4th place from these 2 teams..

    Viva Espana!Viva Fyrom!
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    we can expect that Fiba disqualfy Macedonia and that they create rule that Spain is alowed to have 2 doped players per competition
    Jordi Bertomeu sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tap View Post
    Its a shame for european basketball!!!
    Fiba Europe will try to cover the case.Thats for sure.the only fair thing is to take back the golden medal and the 4th place from these 2 teams..

    Viva Espana!Viva Fyrom!
    How can you take the 4th place away?

    Seriously, I think most of the basketball players are doped anyway.
    Boy, I am sure many people who envy Spain will use this against them for years to come.
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    Since when did littel bit more testeron become doping -).

    It is a normal thing to have littel bit more testeron from time to time.

    And yes Cekovski wos the hero in the match against Spain -) 0/14

    LTU media truley are sick in the head.

    It is amazing how much bullshit one can wright in such short period of time (10 days).

    LTU MEDIA YOU WILL NOT HOST THE PRE OLYMPIC NO MATTER WHAT DO YOU TRY GET IT

    And even Greece will have more support in Macedonia than LTU.
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    Are we crazy?
    This is bullshit, you can´t blame on a whole national team even if there was a single player involved, WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE
    Maybe, Lithuania media wants their national team directly to London?
    Don´t make laught, first gain it on the pitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pohani komarac View Post
    we can expect that Fiba disqualfy Macedonia and that they create rule that Spain is alowed to have 2 doped players per competition
    You made my day! Comment of the week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robimkd View Post
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    It´s strange, we, as spaniards have been the most part of our lives watching the success in sports of any country but us, without asking if it was clean victories
    And now, that we compete at a high level in almost every sport, have to prove the whole world we have not take drugs to win,
    Even for team sports!!!!!!!!
    Maybe the day the rest of the world uses the olive oil for cooking, they will have testosterone in excess
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    Macedonia media: Macedonia and Spain are clean, another low blow from LTU media.

    ФИБА Европа: Нема допингувани кошаркари http://www.ekipa.mk/News.aspx?newsId=2413
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    did any1 ralized that Spain and Macedonia are 2 countries that beat lithuania in EB?
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    Everybody give Lithuania some attention, they are begging for it.

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    reading the coments it seems that all lithuania does is trying to have revenge. you should get rid of victim's mentality, nobody in lithuania is trying to take your medals or whatever. it's just an article in a newspaper which is no more than a tabloid.

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    Just a tabloid ? who spread it to whole europe ?.

    But you know we hade it, this time your papers are going to court of law.

    Your papers will finance our pre olympic torney
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    macedonian authorities could sue that paper. but all i wanted to say is that neither macedonia nor spain is viewed as some kind o enemies in lithuania. in fact a lot of lithuanians admire what macedonia did. don't judge if you don't know what you are talking about

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    Wow. From your posts I imagine you as a fanatic guy, always dressed in orange/red clothing, with your room walls painted in macedonian flag colours and your radio playing Macedonia's anthem non-stop.
    You seem to look for every tiniest reason to point out how evil Lithuania is.
    Relax, man. I understand, that Macedonia's recent victories in EB2011 invoked great rise of basketball popularity in your country and your writings are based on emotions and national pride. You think that other countries (mostly Lithuania) are trying to push Macedonia back in any ways they can. In reality, no one is trying sabotage Macedonia's chances on hosting Pre-Olympic tournament. There's simply no point in doing that. All these great conspiracy theories exist only in your mind.
    Believe me, no one in Lithuania feels hostile to Macedonia. After your team defeated us in 2011 quarter-final, many lithuanians were even happy for macedonian success. Some of our biggest "evil, anti-macedonian" internet news sites posted videos from Skopje greeting your team and most of lithuanian posters spoke really warmly about this macedonian team.
    You see, we understand how proud you feel (in a good way). We had similar success in 2003 when our generation changed, great players like Sabonis retired from our NT and in their place we had NT, composed of young no-name players. No one expected anything big from that team. Especially when we finished in 12th place two years earlier in EB2001 and not even qualify for WC2002. Yet, that team won the competition and took gold. Whole country was in euphoria. Just like your country is now. We totally understand you. Just try not to be carried away by feelings and emotions. We are not your enemy.
    About that doping article - i have read whole original material and here's the summary:
    Two samples from players had more of some substance (it isn't stated which exactly) than usual. So, the lithuanian doping testing lab followed protocol and forwarded those samples to FIBA for further testing (for lithuanian lab didn't have the equipment needed). That's it. Lithuanan media stated these facts and made a conclusion that it MAY mean these players used doping.
    No one directly accused anyone of using doping.

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    Susbstence testoron
    http://www.ekipa.mk/News.aspx?newsId=2406

    This has nothing to do with Spain you have your radar on Macedonia.

    Aint even unormal to have littel bit more testeron in he body than useal.

    One can have that by many reasons. The LTU articel is very missleading and the whole europe media today say we used doping. Everyone.

    Yes this media cause us big damage, our reputation.

    When you show littel bit more testoron than useal you make one more test just to cheak if everything is OK. It happens so often is is very usual.

    They made this cheak and everything is normal. The body it self produced littel bit more than useal.

    This media had all fact needed but still choosed to wright a very missleading articel.

    Seeems like your media are looking for everything and i mean everything that can help you host the pree olympics.

    You can proove to us that I am wrong by withdrow from the bid. And support us

    Just for the notice this aint the first false articel in LTU media recently
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciscorlie Horford
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    Macedonians!

    Won 1 game and sit calm in your places, celebrate one time victory per history.

    Lithuania is respected basketball country and our team is respected too always. We are one of the few who didn't naturalized any foreigners and won many titles.

    [edited - Levenspiel]
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    Everytime Robimkd posts there's a conspiracy against Macedonia, God kills a poor kitty.
    FIRE THE NEXT ONE!!!
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    Two players have been found positive in doping tests during Eurobasket 2011 according to Lithuanian anti-doping agency.
    ????

    Actually, no-one wrote or said that... And "above the norm" does not mean that doping was used by these players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzaka View Post
    Everytime Robimkd posts there's a conspiracy against Macedonia, God kills a poor kitty.
    [...]

    There are reasons when I speak.

    We live in two deferant world me and you. You never need to experiance injustice. Thats why you can never understand.

    Whats you call conspiracy is reality for someone else.

    LTU and the GR will push it very hard all the way.

    Lets just play with the head, as exampel, you think it is totally impossible lets say Greeks pay 1 milion euro under the table Macedonia not to host it ?.

    You think this things do not exist in this clean lovely world ?. I guess America whent to Iraq just to help the poeple (witch they murder everyday) Oil has nothing to do with it i guess in your world.

    Call it conspiracy I do not care. Money rules this world and we do not have any. We a small nation totaly unimportant to the big sponsors. Maybe you think hat sponsors never has to do with the out come with basketball matches ?.
    Last edited by rikhardur; 11-08-2011 at 11:38 PM.
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