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Thread: A hypothetical question: What would the result have been if China and Iran had met?

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    Default A hypothetical question: What would the result have been if China and Iran had met?

    I know this is a hypothetical question, but I am just curios about the opinions of the experts and fans here. The question I'm proposing is: Had Iran not been upset by Jordan in quarter-finals, given the overall performance of China and Iran in this tournament, what would have been the outcome of a final match between China and Iran?

    Please set aside your personal biases, rivalries, grudges etc, and give an honest answer.

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    Simple Mathematic Q

    J > I & C>J

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    C>J>I

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    I know, but this is not mathematics, it's basketball with a round ball. But even mathematically speaking, Iran has beaten Jordan 4 out of the last 5 times they've played, it's just the law of average caught up with Iran at the worst possible time. That and the fact that the Jordanian players played with their hearts and souls, and had lady luck on their side with seven consecutive threes going in during the last few minutes of the match, while the Iranian players played a relaxed and arrogant game throughout the match.
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    hmmm of course they can win w/o a problem,unless if they play in china then they wont,not because china is better,but the refs that will change the path of the game in 1 single phantom call to china's favor ,play against them in any other place and u would win

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    Every place has its own homecourt whistle , i have heard enough about that and to be honest that was much better for those of u who havent seen Asia championship in Busan in 2002. I guess the most effective way is to hose this tournament in somewhere else like Russia or USA or Eyrope whatever if u wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrael0825 View Post
    Every place has its own homecourt whistle , i have heard enough about that and to be honest that was much better for those of u who havent seen Asia championship in Busan in 2002. I guess the most effective way is to hose this tournament in somewhere else like Russia or USA or Eyrope whatever if u wish.
    man things doesnt work that way..it has been done time and time again..
    the chinese team is good dont get me wrong,but its not better than jor,iran.lebanon,philippines,,the only way to secure their ticket to world even is by hosting every single championship,,we have seen the level of the chinese team since the last asian cup,they barely made it throw the semis with the ref's help, and in the final game iranian team gave them a big lesson in BBall,same thing with today's final game

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    iran win

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    Iran would win by 8-10 points...

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    well it's a tough question.

    both teams were the most consistent in the tournament and most of the experts/fans were waiting the final clash between the two powerhouses.

    I myself was waiting for the final game between China and Iran but as you've said this is basketball with a round ball you need to respect the ball first then your opponent to achieve the best result possible.

    Answering your question it would be a close game not more than 5 pts gap to China or Iran (+ or - 5 pts, 10 overall)

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    Nobody doubts that Iran, individually, were the best team there, but their arrogant coach was kinda stupid to even think that Jordan is a walk by, eventhough that all iran's games against Jordan were close, remember semi finals 2009? jones cup 2011?

    I also noticed they just relied on Haddadi, although they don't have to, when they have best players on all positions, and despite that their systems was just around Haddadi who doesn't impress me basketball wise, unlike Arsalan Samad and Afagh, those guys were limited big time this year... Gob job by matic

    Meanwhile, China year by year, will reach a point where they might fail to even make it to semis, but they r lucky to host Fiba Asia everytime, so this is doing it for them instead, especially that Wang zhizhi and Liu Wei will not play forever and i don't see any real talents coming out there to fill the gap.
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    I don't care whether or not China is the strongest team in Asia. The fact is, everytime China can reach the final 16 or 8 of all recent world tournament, with or without Yao. No other Asian team can make it in 21st century.

    BTW, the reason why China can frequently host the Asian Championship is because only China can supply a safe (most important) and world-class game place without worry about expenses If any country can realize that quality, be free to compete with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledk View Post

    BTW, the reason why China can frequently host the Asian Championship is because only China can supply a safe (most important) and world-class game place without worry about expenses If any country can realize that quality, be free to compete with us.
    China has an enormous capacity for hosting events and they have shown that by hosting 2008 Olympic games. But, Keep in mind that there are a lot of other countries in Asia that are safe with world class standards, which could arguably be better hosts than China (Japan, Korea, CT, some Arab countries..). It's extremely hard to argue for hosting this event twice in a row and I personally don't buy any of your arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buran View Post
    China has an enormous capacity for hosting events and they have shown that by hosting 2008 Olympic games. But, Keep in mind that there are a lot of other countries in Asia that are safe with world class standards, which could arguably be better hosts than China (Japan, Korea, CT, some Arab countries..). It's extremely hard to argue for hosting this event twice in a row and I personally don't buy any of your arguments.
    Personally speaking, I prefer China winning a champion outside the border and players will do better without that pressure from local Chinese fans.

    The problem right now is that no other countries even compete with us. Japan has no willingness, Korea maybe has, but trust me, you will see even worse refs there. Arab countries, dont you see the reason why lebanon lost the hosting right because of safty consideration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledk View Post
    Personally speaking, I prefer China winning a champion outside the border and players will do better without that pressure from local Chinese fans.

    The problem right now is that no other countries even compete with us. Japan has no willingness, Korea maybe has, but trust me, you will see even worse refs there. Arab countries, dont you see the reason why lebanon lost the hosting right because of safty consideration?
    that could be the case, maybe Japan and Korea know they will have a hard time winning and they son't show interest in hosting, but I was more specifically talking about countries like Qatar, UAE, Kuwait or Saudi Arabi when I mentioned Arab countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledk View Post
    BTW, the reason why China can frequently host the Asian Championship is because only China can supply a safe (most important) and world-class game place without worry about expenses If any country can realize that quality, be free to compete with us.
    Maybe safe in terms of the country but not in terms of the fans and what they do .


    Quote Originally Posted by littledk View Post
    The problem right now is that no other countries even compete with us. Japan has no willingness, Korea maybe has, but trust me, you will see even worse refs there. Arab countries, dont you see the reason why lebanon lost the hosting right because of safety consideration?
    Regarding Lebanon it wasn't about safety.. It was about our stadiums which need to meet the proper international requirements for such a Championship as well as the availability of appropriate parking slots and traffic (which are quite a big problem in Lebanon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledk View Post
    Personally speaking, I prefer China winning a champion outside the border and players will do better without that pressure from local Chinese fans.

    The problem right now is that no other countries even compete with us. Japan has no willingness, Korea maybe has, but trust me, you will see even worse refs there. Arab countries, dont you see the reason why lebanon lost the hosting right because of safty consideration?
    you're kidding right ? safety seriously ? are we in a kind of war that the people of Lebanon doesn't know ?

    Lebanon didn't lost anything. the FLB gave it away as a trade for AC 2013.

    i don't know what have you heard but please stop watching the wrong tv stations. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    Maybe safe in terms of the country but not in terms of the fans and what they do .
    that was only one game and against the rivals. The syrians over reacted they knew they were going to lose so they made excuses.

    there are derby matches everywhere in the world and a lot worse things happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavrick_h View Post
    that was only one game and against the rivals. The syrians over reacted they knew they were going to lose so they made excuses.

    there are derby matches everywhere in the world and a lot worse things happen.
    Man I was talking about the fans in China . I don't know if you are aware of these incidents that happened there...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Buran View Post
    that could be the case, maybe Japan and Korea know they will have a hard time winning and they son't show interest in hosting, but I was more specifically talking about countries like Qatar, UAE, Kuwait or Saudi Arabi when I mentioned Arab countries.
    Yes, those countries are perfect choice. But I really dont see any of these countries even show an interest. Maybe that is the biggest problem Asian Basketball is facing, not many countries are like China, which has a huge population of basketball fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid80 View Post
    Maybe safe in terms of the country but not in terms of the fans and what they do .




    Regarding Lebanon it wasn't about safety.. It was about our stadiums which need to meet the proper international requirements for such a Championship as well as the availability of appropriate parking slots and traffic (which are quite a big problem in Lebanon).
    I'm sorry for the misunderstanding since I heard the news from our basketball forum.

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