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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    Question is, would SMC camp be willing to let Greg go to rival camp knowing he can be used to match up well against Junemar?
    Well with how Tim treated GS at GSM, i wont be aurprise if he ask for a trade also.... GS barely plays for GSM, his role was that of reliever of Japhet, for sure GS knows he can be better than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajubeads View Post
    Well with how Tim treated GS at GSM, i wont be aurprise if he ask for a trade also.... GS barely plays for GSM, his role was that of reliever of Japhet, for sure GS knows he can be better than that...
    Traded yes, but would it be to the MVP fold? Bigs are a premium commodity in the PBA due to scarcity.
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    Parks for Slaughter value wise okay kasi need ng TNT ng big but player wise come on. GS is already in his 30s and Parks is just starting to be on his prime years. If this indeed happen, idk anymore. TNT just dont know how to sell its assets.

    If they will trade Parks it has to be for Standhardinger not for Greg. Lugi sila diyan. They better get a big in Maurice Shaw and retain Parks. Why is does that TNT players have an inner circle type of mentality? Pagmga long tenured na talagang mabusisi sa mga baguhang salta (just like in real life in working corporations, it happens din pala in a basketball club.). Sows.

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    It's hard to root for MVP teams nowadays.

    Nlex - Yeng overvalues role players too much, when in PBA star firepower is what they needed to win a championship.

    Meralco - same thing with NLEX. Does not know when to go all in. They have the assets to get a guy before like standhardinger, terrence, Parks and then Perez (whose maybe on his way to SMB).

    TNT - always goes all in. But when push comes to shove and when the going gets tough. Ang sisi, nasa baguhang salta. Seniority, long tenureship is all what matters.

    If SMC teams did not have a reputation on being selfish with Gilas before. You'll admire how they move and build a franchise. They are like the Celtics and Lakers movement wise. Knows when to collect assets, knows when to sell and trade, and they always go for the star players without trading their good ones. MVP group just plain sucks. I lost interest with them already.

    Hopefully Rain or Shine can get a gem like (mikey williams, or malonzo or munzon) next year. I think they are the only one's who know how to do and build a team to consistently challenge and contend. Sadyang naghanap lang ng greener pastures yung mga ininvest at dinevelop nila (Paul Lee, Almazan etc.) But they know what they are doing. Hoping the best for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    It's hard to root for MVP teams nowadays.

    Nlex - Yeng overvalues role players too much, when in PBA star firepower is what they needed to win a championship.

    Meralco - same thing with NLEX. Does not know when to go all in. They have the assets to get a guy before like standhardinger, terrence, Parks and then Perez (whose maybe on his way to SMB).

    TNT - always goes all in. But when push comes to shove and when the going gets tough. Ang sisi, nasa baguhang salta. Seniority, long tenureship is all what matters.

    If SMC teams did not have a reputation on being selfish with Gilas before. You'll admire how they move and build a franchise. They are like the Celtics and Lakers movement wise. Knows when to collect assets, knows when to sell and trade, and they always go for the star players without trading their good ones. MVP group just plain sucks. I lost interest with them already.

    Hopefully Rain or Shine can get a gem like (mikey williams, or malonzo or munzon) next year. I think they are the only one's who know how to do and build a team to consistently challenge and contend. Sadyang naghanap lang ng greener pastures yung mga ininvest at dinevelop nila (Paul Lee, Almazan etc.) But they know what they are doing. Hoping the best for them.
    TNT need to ship these "senior players" then, so they can remove the seniority culture. Castro seems to have been done trying, KWill is no longer the same, Carey is just too old. Ryan Reyes is no longer the energizer he used to be. Maybe BW or Columbian can take these guys, same way they turned JWash into Castro 10 years ago..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
    It's hard to root for MVP teams nowadays.

    Nlex - Yeng overvalues role players too much, when in PBA star firepower is what they needed to win a championship.

    Meralco - same thing with NLEX. Does not know when to go all in. They have the assets to get a guy before like standhardinger, terrence, Parks and then Perez (whose maybe on his way to SMB).

    TNT - always goes all in. But when push comes to shove and when the going gets tough. Ang sisi, nasa baguhang salta. Seniority, long tenureship is all what matters.

    If SMC teams did not have a reputation on being selfish with Gilas before. You'll admire how they move and build a franchise. They are like the Celtics and Lakers movement wise. Knows when to collect assets, knows when to sell and trade, and they always go for the star players without trading their good ones. MVP group just plain sucks. I lost interest with them already.

    Hopefully Rain or Shine can get a gem like (mikey williams, or malonzo or munzon) next year. I think they are the only one's who know how to do and build a team to consistently challenge and contend. Sadyang naghanap lang ng greener pastures yung mga ininvest at dinevelop nila (Paul Lee, Almazan etc.) But they know what they are doing. Hoping the best for them.
    I think it is more of a pride for MVP. SMC has a reputation that if you are aging, you will be traded to rising stars.

    Remember how smb traded dondon,Danny S, Danny I, Pena, etc. If they already used you, and you are not the same olayer you was once, then you will bean asset for a trade.

    TNT has a chance to do it after their perpetual trophy run. They are aging back then. They should have traded kelly, Rdo, alapag, ryan reyes, fonacier,dillinger that time when they have large value.

    SMC, panget man pakinggan, ay tinatapon ang player na wala nang kwenta after nilang pakinabangan.

    Bad. But this is the only way to be successful for decades.

    If you ate playing MYGM in Nba 2k you will understand this. You will trade the old players while they have value, you must trade th to future stars. And if that future stars became old, they will be traded again. The process is just recycling.

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    If I'm TNT don't relent on trading Parks to an SMC team. The hell with them. Trade him to NLex or Meralco. Ibibigay pa nila sa Ginebra for a seldom use Greg. NagkaStanley Pringle na, then now Parks. Al Chua is salivating. Lol.

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    they should try to get Junemar lol. Or arrange a 3-team trade to get CStan. but then again the old boys club will shun him, so what's the point?
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    Maybe that explains why TNT is hoarding a lot of guards this past weeks.

    Dacquiaog
    Montalbo
    Jj alejandro
    Val Chauca
    Simon Enciso

    Baka mamaya si Castro na ang itrade niyan? Just kidding. Hope they find a way to get no non sense players. Hardworking and Laro lang in C-stan or a Mac Belo. Maybe yung mga ganyang laro eh hindi itakwil ng old boys club. I wonder how RR Pogoy went to untouchable. Pano niya nakuha ang loob ng mga oldies.

    Could it be star players/ entitled mentality (terrence, parks) = no go for the old boys in TNT

    Hardwork/Gulang players (Pogoy,Troy) = a yes for them

    If that's the case why not they pursue Manuel or Abueva, tignan natin kung mabully ng old tnt boys yung mga yun. Hahaha.

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    MVP can’t simply trade jayson “side betting” castro.. you already know the reason why romeo and now parks jr. left..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
    MVP group needs a chualay they don’t have that person..
    lol they ahould get this 2 , they seems to know everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by mangangalakal View Post
    they should try to get Junemar lol. Or arrange a 3-team trade to get CStan. but then again the old boys club will shun him, so what's the point?
    Well superteams are the trend nowadays. Even in nba. You need to have atleast big 3 to be contender. (ASIDE FROM DIRK, THATS WHY I RESPECT HIM, HE WON WITHOUT A SUPERTEAM).

    Celtics,M iami Heat,Golden State,Spurs build a superteam to win straight championships.

    Same thing with Pba. SmC in the last 5 years have won all championships. I cant even remember the last time a non smc team won a championship.

    And Junmar to ginebra is not impossible if smc decides to go with ginebra.

    Also it is not impossible to put Cone and brownlee to San Miguel if smc goes with san miguel.

    We all know magnolia is the least priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Well superteams are the trend nowadays. Even in nba. You need to have atleast big 3 to be contender. (ASIDE FROM DIRK, THATS WHY I RESPECT HIM, HE WON WITHOUT A SUPERTEAM).

    Celtics,M iami Heat,Golden State,Spurs build a superteam to win straight championships.

    Same thing with Pba. SmC in the last 5 years have won all championships. I cant even remember the last time a non smc team won a championship.

    And Junmar to ginebra is not impossible if smc decides to go with ginebra.

    Also it is not impossible to put Cone and brownlee to San Miguel if smc goes with san miguel.

    We all know magnolia is the least priority.
    Give mad props to Kawhi Leonard and Nick Nurse, too. They won it all by having a team rather than a superteam. No one was talking about a Toronto big 3 (simply doesn't exist) before Kawhi. It took just a DeRozan trade/upgrade to get them their championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    Give mad props to Kawhi Leonard and Nick Nurse, too. They won it all by having a team rather than a superteam. No one was talking about a Toronto big 3 (simply doesn't exist) before Kawhi. It took just a DeRozan trade/upgrade to get them their championship.
    Toronto GM also needed to trade for Marc Gasol for veteran experience.

    Some will consider LOWRY,KAWHI/SIAKAM as big three. Danny Green and Marc gasol are solid role players.
    Yeah they are like dallas 2011

    Dirk is the only star there. But others consider a very old jason kidd and a 6th man hason terry to be a big 3 with Dirk.

    Anyway, Dallas beat a healthy talented superteam in miami heat. Toronto beat a injury golden state team
    So Dalls is still first, toronto second when it comes to getting a ring without formung a superteam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Killer View Post
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    Kuliglig told me MVP group would try to get GREG SLAUGHTER for BOBBY RAY PARKS, JR.
    Interesting how dickel will use GS in his 5-out offense lol. But may with all that spacing, GS will have plenty of space to operate inside and have their offense firing in all cylinders.

    Bobby parks + Pringle in ginebra tho, backcourt of the future. With brownlee as their import will make that a really big and skilled backcourt--all 3 are 3-level scorers (can shoot from outside, drive and finish, and with good mid-range game). Front-court rotation of japeth-devance-dela cruz-tolentino should suffice for now but won't hurt to add another big man. CS would fit nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurklurk View Post
    Interesting how dickel will use GS in his 5-out offense lol. But may with all that spacing, GS will have plenty of space to operate inside and have their offense firing in all cylinders.

    Bobby parks + Pringle in ginebra tho, backcourt of the future. With brownlee as their import will make that a really big and skilled backcourt--all 3 are 3-level scorers (can shoot from outside, drive and finish, and with good mid-range game). Front-court rotation of japeth-devance-dela cruz-tolentino should suffice for now but won't hurt to add another big man. CS would fit nicely.
    Slaughter will be better in other teams.. if he will be in TNT eh blessing in disguise already.. actually he can take shots from the outside and a major puzzle of TNT's championship dream.. Parks + Yousef Taha + future 1st rounder for Slaughter and Sargeant is ok already.. I don't know if Al Chua will transfer Slaughter to rival camp but getting Parks is a major upgrade of their wings.. they have no wing player in their line up, and w/o Brownlee in All Pinoy Cup eh getting Parks is huge upgrade already..

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    This is just me but I don’t think Slaughter would be traded to a non-SMC team. With the abundance of quality wings on the horizon (Paras, Ravena, Oftana, Ramos among others) and not so near future (Ildefonso, Abando, Kwekuteye), I think SMC can afford to miss out on Parks if it means giving Slaughter up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    This is just me but I don’t think Slaughter would be traded to a non-SMC team. With the abundance of quality wings on the horizon (Paras, Ravena, Oftana, Ramos among others) and not so near future (Ildefonso, Abando, Kwekuteye), I think SMC can afford to miss out on Parks if it means giving Slaughter up.
    Ginebra wants a grandslam NOW. They will not wait for future draftees that is also dangerously be considered in special draft, and they cannit use right away.


    So Ginebra is trading slaughter to get parks or cstand. Or maybe ginebra can get both. There are no impossible trades for SMC. They even manage to get Cstand by just giving tubid and mccarthy. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    Toronto GM also needed to trade for Marc Gasol for veteran experience.

    Some will consider LOWRY,KAWHI/SIAKAM as big three. Danny Green and Marc gasol are solid role players.
    Yeah they are like dallas 2011

    Dirk is the only star there. But others consider a very old jason kidd and a 6th man hason terry to be a big 3 with Dirk.

    Anyway, Dallas beat a healthy talented superteam in miami heat. Toronto beat a injury golden state team
    So Dalls is still first, toronto second when it comes to getting a ring without formung a superteam
    2004 Detroit Pistons says hello. They beat LA Lakers with prime Kobe, prime Shaq, with Karl Malone and Gary Payton. Off the bench they have Devian George, Rick Fox, DFish (?) and coached by the GOAT Phil Jackson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOiNU View Post
    This is just me but I don’t think Slaughter would be traded to a non-SMC team. With the abundance of quality wings on the horizon (Paras, Ravena, Oftana, Ramos among others) and not so near future (Ildefonso, Abando, Kwekuteye), I think SMC can afford to miss out on Parks if it means giving Slaughter up.
    SMC is just waiting for those blue chips to enter the draft you mentioned the likes of Paras, Thirdy, Malonzo & those Fil-fors, It's impossible they would get near the top 3 picks unless they tank, Slaughter might be good trade bait to a lowly team to get that Top pick and draft the next PBA superstar.

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