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    2008 Olympic Qualifying Tournament

    PPG Bo Mccalebb: F.Y.R. of Macedonia 26.3
    RPG Jack Martinez: Dominican Republic 13.8
    APG Mantas Kalnietis: Lithuania 7.0
    SPG Kim Tae Sool: South Korea 3.5
    BPG Windi Graterol: Venezuela 2.0
    Group A

    Jul 2 Greece 107 Jordan 63
    Jul 3 Puerto Rico 93 Jordan 52
    Jul 4 Greece 98 Puerto Rico 84

    Group B

    Jul 2 Venezuela 71 Nigeria 69
    Jul 3 Lithuania 100 Venezuela 82
    Jul 4 Nigeria 86 Lithuania 80

    Group C

    Jul 2 Russia 91 South Korea 56
    Jul 3 Dominican Republic 95 South Korea 85
    Jul 4 Russia 84 Dominican Repubilc 69

    Group D

    Jul 2 Angola 88 F.Y.R. of Macedonia 84
    Jul 3 F.Y.R. of Macedonia 84 New Zealand 62
    Jul 4 New Zealand 68 Angola 64

    1/4 Final

    Jul 6 Russia 80 Angola 65
    Jul 6 Nigeria 80 Greece 79
    Jul 6 Dominican Republic 86 F.Y.R. of Macedonia 76
    Jul 6 Lithuania 76 Puerto Rico 72

    1/2 Final

    Jul 7 Russia 85 Nigeria 77
    Jul 7 Lithuania 109 Dominican Republic 83

    3rd to 4th Place

    Jul 8 Nigeria 88 Dominican Republic 73






    2008 Olympic Qualifying Tournament

    PPG Jazmine Sepulveda: Puerto Rico 22.0
    RPG Petra Kulichova: Czech Republic 16.0
    APG Asami Yoshida: Japan 7.2
    SPG Clarisse Machanguana: Mozambique 2.5
    BPG Petra Kulichova: Czech Republic 4.3
    Group A

    Jun 25 Turkey 65 Puerto Rico 53
    Jun 26 Turkey 65 Japan 49
    Jun 27 Japan 79 Puerto Rico 70

    Group B

    Jun 25 Czech Republic 70 New Zealand 51
    Jun 26 Argentina 54 New Zealand 51
    Jun 27 Czech Republic 68 Argentina 54

    Group C

    Jun 25 Croatia 84 Mozambique 62
    Jun 26 South Korea 71 Mozambique 65
    Jun 27 Croatia 83 South Korea 75

    Group D

    Jun 25 Canada 89 Mali 23
    Jun 26 France 56 Canada 47
    Jun 27 France 87 Mali 33

    1/4 Final

    Jun 29 Croatia 59 Canada 56
    Jun 29 Czech Republic 53 Japan 47
    Jun 29 Turkey 72 Argentina 58
    Jun 29 France 80 South Korea 63

    5th to 8th Place

    Jun 30 Japan 79 South Korea 51
    Jun 30 Canada 58 Argentina 41

    5th to 6th Place

    Jul 1 Canada 71 Japan 63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kings View Post

    FIBA Africa:Tunisia and Nigeria
    Perhaps a little premature here.

    40-29 Tunisia at the moment...

    edit: Definitely premature. Tunisia is your new champion of Africa, and Angola is off to this tournament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    Perhaps a little premature here.

    40-29 Tunisia at the moment...

    edit: Definitely premature. Tunisia is your new champion of Africa, and Angola is off to this tournament.
    lololol.

    Angola got a tough road now...theyre going to have to beat at least 1 or 2 solid American and Euro sides to make it.
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    I like the fact that a new team (from Africa) actually made it to the Olympics.

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    It's a long shot, but I hope that the Philippines makes it this year. It will be very difficult since only one slot is guaranteed for the Fiba Asia Champions, then only 2 slots for the #2 & 3 on the qualifying tournament. They should change slot allocations in the future. The mere size of Asia, the # of teams plus the fact that Asian teams have made noticeable improvements in recent years should earn us more slots in the world stage.

    China may have dominated the Asian basketball scene for a long time but this is no longer the case. Other Asian teams are competitive at almost the same level and can dethrone China anytime. The list includes: Iran, South Korea, Lebanon, Philippines, Jordan, Qatar, Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2log View Post
    They should change slot allocations in the future. The mere size of Asia, the # of teams plus the fact that Asian teams have made noticeable improvements in recent years should earn us more slots in the world stage.
    How come is that? Asian teams won only 3 games outta 20 in last WC (2 against African teams, 1 vs Canada), where lot of teams of Europe or Americas even played without their key players...
    In 2008 Olympics Iran lost all games heavily, only China managed to grab 2 wins with Yao and home crowd. In additional qualifiers before Olympics Asian teams lost all 4 games, few of them huuuge.

    Somehow I miss that improvement We'll see how your teams will do in next year's qualifiers, if any of them will manage to qualify - it'll be a decent prove, but so far, sorry, you get what you've deserved


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    How come is that? Asian teams won only 3 games outta 20 in last WC (2 against African teams, 1 vs Canada), where lot of teams of Europe or Americas even played without their key players...
    In 2008 Olympics Iran lost all games heavily, only China managed to grab 2 wins with Yao and home crowd. In additional qualifiers before Olympics Asian teams lost all 4 games, few of them huuuge.

    Somehow I miss that improvement We'll see how your teams will do in next year's qualifiers, if any of them will manage to qualify - it'll be a decent prove, but so far, sorry, you get what you've deserved
    I meant not to take any slots away from other continental groupings but to at least increase the slot to 2 for the top finishers of FIBA Asia Championships. Europe deserves the # of slots and wild card it gets for the WC and Olympics as it is the most competitive zone. The Americas aside from USA has about 2 or 3 teams that can vie for the top spot but is not as competitive as EuroBasket.

    Asia has seen a boost for basketball in the past decade as before, China and maybe South Korea dominate the rest of the field, but now, there are at least 5 more teams that can seriously contend for the top spot. It may not be as big as an improvement to compete toe to toe with the top Euro teams but if you follow Asian basketball, you'll notice the big change. Giving us more chances to play on the world stage against better opponents would further help that development and growth of the sport in the biggest and most populated region. Allowing only 1 guaranteed slot from the Asian Championships and 2 for the qualifying tournament doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2log View Post
    I meant not to take any slots away from other continental groupings but to at least increase the slot to 2 for the top finishers of FIBA Asia Championships. Europe deserves the # of slots and wild card it gets for the WC and Olympics as it is the most competitive zone. The Americas aside from USA has about 2 or 3 teams that can vie for the top spot but is not as competitive as EuroBasket.

    Asia has seen a boost for basketball in the past decade as before, China and maybe South Korea dominate the rest of the field, but now, there are at least 5 more teams that can seriously contend for the top spot. It may not be as big as an improvement to compete toe to toe with the top Euro teams but if you follow Asian basketball, you'll notice the big change. Giving us more chances to play on the world stage against better opponents would further help that development and growth of the sport in the biggest and most populated region. Allowing only 1 guaranteed slot from the Asian Championships and 2 for the qualifying tournament doesn't help.
    You see, there's no place for more. Europe gets only 2 direct places in Olympics, so 1 for Asia is all you can expect.
    Btw, regarding groin' bball in continent, well it probably grown a bit throughout decade, you should know it better of course, but personally, I'm not sure if it's because China looks waaay worse without Yao or some other countries really made a step forward, hopefully they did, would like to see your continent more competitive on international scene


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    Venezuela is in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    You see, there's no place for more. Europe gets only 2 direct places in Olympics, so 1 for Asia is all you can expect.
    Btw, regarding groin' bball in continent, well it probably grown a bit throughout decade, you should know it better of course, but personally, I'm not sure if it's because China looks waaay worse without Yao or some other countries really made a step forward, hopefully they did, would like to see your continent more competitive on international scene
    Well, I do understand that. It's more of a wishful thinking. We only have 1 guaranteed slot. But the sad thing is we only have 2 more for the qualifying tournament. If we do not qualify directly I hope we get to the qualifying tournament. Basketball has improved a lot specially for the middle eastern teams, a lot of countries have step up as medal contenders. Well, it probably helped that China has weakened recently (or if that's what their leading others to believe, we'll know next week in the Asian Championships).

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    Any ideas on where the games will be played?

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    I read at the top Republic Puerto Rico, that will be awesome, I hope someday that becomes true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quylac View Post
    Any ideas on where the games will be played?
    Candidates so far: Venezuela, Puerto-Rico and Lithuania. I guess France, Russia or Spain will join also if they'll fail to qualify directly, don't know how is situation with venues in Macedonia. Greece shouldn't get it 2nd time in a row.
    The main issue for us might be money, as it was told - Greece paid 3mln euros 4 years ago for the rights to organize the event.
    However, probably this time it will be in Americas, but I still have a small hope


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    I hope Puerto Rico gets it in the interest of fairness, and they put on an a very entertaining FIBA Americas a couple years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtown View Post
    I hope Puerto Rico gets it in the interest of fairness, and they put on an a very entertaining FIBA Americas a couple years ago.
    Hoping that too.Loved the FIBA Americas there in the coliseo, great atmosphere and the shopping center next to it

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    According to this, the price for hosting the tournament is 5mln euros According to newspaper's sources close to the situation, price suddenly went up cause France and Spain got direct places in Olympics, previously it was "unofficialy" decided that if France will fail, they'll be hosts, so now FIBA wants to earn as much as possible and raised the price. The main candidate now is Russia, they doesn't care about such large sum of money, they has rich sponsors and already negotiating with FIBA...
    Our federation is poor, but still ain't givin' up and will try to fight. Also according to our federation president Garastas, he heard the rumours that Venesuela is ready to pay 1.5mln euros


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    (The games probably will take place in Puerto rico.)

    It might bee too soon for a thread like it, but let's see which countries will fight to earn one of the three first places that leads to London's Olympic games.
    FIBA EUROPE.
    Russia
    Lithuania
    Greece
    FYR of Macedonia

    FIBA AMERICAS
    Puerto Rico
    Venezuela
    Dominican Republic

    FIBA OCEANIA
    New Zealand

    FIBA AFRICA
    Angola
    Nigeria

    FIBA ASIA
    2 UNKNOWN counties so far.

    As far as I can see the basic candidates for the first three places are from FIBA EUROPE.
    Russia Lithuania Greece and Fyrom.
    Of course Puerto Rico still remains a basketball power in America, and they can upset some of the 4 european teams above.

    As for the other countries I don't see how they can get it to London. Of course we might have surprises as well. Take nothing for granted.

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    Russia will get in without a doubt.

    Lithuania as long as they dont play like they just did in this tournament.

    Greece and Macedonia are the questions. Greece cause they where very inconsistent while Macedonia still surprises me how they even got that far.

    Besides Puerto Rico(if they have a complete team), Id be wary of Venezuela, they df. got the offense to make it, they just have to get a better defense.

    As for Dominican Republic, well, if they can play as a team they have a better chance of making it, but without a bench it will be tough.

    Angola shouldnt be counted out, they been to every Olympics so no matter how bad things look for them, they understand the game better than any team out there. Nigeria has poor chance of making it though.

    I know nothing of New Zealand, and 2 games against Australia won tell me much of how good or bad they are.

    Last repechage had this as top four teams

    Greece
    Croatia
    Germany
    Puerto Rico

    And every european country finished first in their respective group (including Slovenia) so every non european country has to step their game up.
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    We can take nothing for granted but, the basic candidates to reach the London's Olympic games are from the FIBA EUROPE zone.

    Russia
    Lithuania
    Greece
    and FYR of Macedonia.

    Puerto Rico and Angola can be strong opponents as well. (I don't know how strong is the Puerto rico this year though. )

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