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    Anybody know where the long-running Sabonis comments thread went to?

    Last night during the Dallas-San Antonio game, Reggie Miller (now a commentator), asked who the best European player ever to play in the NBA was. Among the names he mentioned were:
    • Schrempf
    • Petrovic
    • Kukoc
    • Sabonis
    • Divac
    • Nowitzki

    He did not commit to any one player, but singled out Sabonis, saying he was an amazing player. He said Nowitzki was the best right now.

    Marv Albert (a long time play-by-play announcer for the NBA who was convicted of biting a woman in a hotel while wearing women's underwear) said "Arvydas Sabonis is the best classic big man I've ever seen"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvblair
    Marv Albert (a long time play-by-play announcer for the NBA who was convicted of biting a woman in a hotel while wearing women's underwear) said "Arvydas Sabonis is the best classic big man I've ever seen"
    perhaps i lost this in the form of sentence structure and overall jsut rippin on you. but are you telling me when marv was getting his dirty on while biting a woman he said that quote to her? so random..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantim3dx
    perhaps i lost this in the form of sentence structure and overall jsut rippin on you. but are you telling me when marv was getting his dirty on while biting a woman he said that quote to her? so random..
    No, no, no!!! He said it last night during the game!!

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    Phantim3dx you're terrible man

    One should never say never, but I really doubt another player similar to Sabas will ever come up. He was just this unprobable combination of huge height, skills and power. Those elements are terribly difficult to combine, especially it they are inborn, as was his case. Players could be named as having great height and being excellent players, but what about the diverse set of skills he had? Even NBA's all-time great centres lacked some of his skills. If you come to think about it, was there actually something he wasn't able to do? There's your answer
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    I like him, he is not just a player, he makes all country proud to be Lithuanians, If not Sabonis - nobody would know about us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test
    If not Sabonis - nobody would know about us
    don't get me wrong but I beg to disagree Lithuania is so much more than some single person, it's not even worth discussing. we were very much known and respected towards the end of the middle ages and there were no Sabonis back then
    but yeah, Sabonis is great, probably the most famous Lithuanian (who lives in Lithuania) at the moment. it's only a matter of time, imho, before we build a monument for him somewhere . however, I bet at least 99 % of all Scandinavians (just an example) have never heard of Sabonis, but certainly a good part of them should know much more about Lithuania and even our hystory than, say, an (average) American NBA fan ever will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kestas
    don't get me wrong but I beg to disagree Lithuania is so much more than some single person, it's not even worth discussing. we were very much known and respected towards the end of the middle ages and there were no Sabonis back then
    but yeah, Sabonis is great, probably the most famous Lithuanian (who lives there) at the moment. it's only a matter of time, imho, before we build a monument for him somewhere . however, I bet at least 99 % of all Scandinavians (just an example) have never heard of Sabonis, but certainly a good part of them should know much more about Lithuania and even our hystory than, say, an (average) American NBA fan ever will.
    More over, generations are passing by. Just look at youtube or whatever, you will find a lot of clips with M. Kalnietis and you hardly find any with S. Marciulionis (one of the best European players ever). Sabas is a legend and still doing good job for Lith basketball, but if you want to congratulate some-one for spreading the massage about Lithuania at the moment, choose those: Ilgauskas, Jasikevicius, Macijauskas, Siskauskas, Songaila, Kleiza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kestas
    however, I bet at least 99 % of all Scandinavians (just an example) have never heard of Sabonis, but certainly a good part of them should know much more about Lithuania and even our hystory than, say, an (average) American NBA fan ever will.
    was the american bashing necessary?
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    I played a lot of time on online poker rooms with americans, asians, scandinavians etc.. When people ask where I am from, I answer - from Lithuania. 20% ppl say: "ahh Sabas! I know", and other 80% says "WTF is that? is this in Canada?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantim3dx
    was the american bashing necessary?
    it wasn't bashing, or, more precisely, it wasn't ment to offend anybody, sorry if it did.
    Last edited by kestas; 11-17-2007 at 02:36 PM.
    stop russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward
    More over, generations are passing by. Just look at youtube or whatever, you will find a lot of clips with M. Kalnietis and you hardly find any with S. Marciulionis (one of the best European players ever).
    absolutely. sports heroes are all temporary, imho. e.g., type "Arvydas Sabonis" and "Sarunas Jasikevicius" in Google. Jasikevicius outscores Sabas by ~185 000 to ~122 000. Saras' Google Trends results also look better. although this tends to be warped, coz even Kleiza outscores Sabas, not to mention Ilgauskas..
    on the other hand, however outstanding our basketball is compared to other fields, those other fields are noticable too. e.g. the search for "Eimuntas Nekrosius" (edit: theatre director) gives 67 500 results, which is better than that of "Sarunas Marciulionis". not to mention that searches for "Jonas Mekas" (edit: New York based alternative filmmaker and writer) and "Valdas Adamkus" (edit: former US official, President of LTU) give ~422 000 and ~1 130 000 results respectively.
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    stop russia

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    Kestas,

    The same thing is true here. People are more interested in Kobe Bryant than Oscar Robertson, even though most basketball purists rank Robertson as one of the best players ever. It's just a "sign of the times." Yes, the Sabonis and Marciulionis of 1990 could kill anyone playing basketball now, but 17-year-olds were born in 1991...and they're not interested in researching guys wearing hot-pants. They want Nike commercials with hip-hop.

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    Yes Sabas was amazing. My granfather has 3 photo albums with Sabas articles and pictures. One of Sabas old pictures http://public.fotki.com/Nissanpower/...sx/sabas1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by nissanpower
    Yes Sabas was amazing. My granfather has 3 photo albums with Sabas articles and pictures. One of Sabas old pictures http://public.fotki.com/Nissanpower/...sx/sabas1.html
    Now, Nissanpower, if you show us one picture from the album, you've got to show the rest. It's just not fair to us Sabonis fans to only show one picture! You need to be in the Christmas spirit and share!

    --Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by nissanpower
    Yes Sabas was amazing. My granfather has 3 photo albums with Sabas articles and pictures. One of Sabas old pictures http://public.fotki.com/Nissanpower/...sx/sabas1.html
    Welcome to the forum nissanpower Please do share those tons of pics with us and post them here, a thread dedicated to Sabas' pics. CFFI will love them (and so will I)
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    Ok my friends, i will try to do this in near future because my granfather live in another town so i should visit him and ask to take these photos. Another one photo with Sabas i found at home. This photo with bad seen original Sabas signature i got from my father friend who is a good friend of Valdemaras Chomicius. This picture is quite old when Sabas and VAldemaras Chomicius played for Valjadolid. http://public.fotki.com/Nissanpower/...icture033.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by nissanpower
    Ok my friends, i will try to do this in near future because my granfather live in another town so i should visit him and ask to take these photos. Another one photo with Sabas i found at home. This photo with bad seen original Sabas signature i got from my father friend who is a good friend of Valdemaras Chomicius. This picture is quite old when Sabas and VAldemaras Chomicius played for Valjadolid. http://public.fotki.com/Nissanpower/...icture033.html
    Thanks, NP. You'll become the hero of this forum if you post these albums.

    --Matt

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    Very nice!!!

    Thanks for posting these, nissan! We are all looking forward to the others.

    Funny.....my Sabonis radar must still be working. I hadn't checked in on IBN for what seems like weeks and when I finally do......new (old) pics of Sabonis!

    Hugs to everyone,
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    LTU - Legend Sabonis reminds everyone of Lithuania's passion for hoops

    MADRID (Olympics) - Basketball is number one in Lithuania.

    It always has been, and always will be.

    "Lithuania has forever been a country where basketball has been the number one sport," said Arvydas SABONIS, the greatest player ever to emerge from the country, to realmadrid.com.

    Sabonis once played for Madrid.

    "We (Lithuania) have a lot of basketball schools. We currently manage one where we have 800 children.

    "There's a lot of interest in basketball and that eventually can be noticed. I think if things continue like this, Lithuanian basketball will always be healthy because among many people, good players come out."


    Indeed, Lithuania has a lot of good players, and they're at clubs all over Europe and in the NBA.

    Ramunas Siskauskas of CSKA Moscow has grabbed a lot of headlines in recent times, and Sarunas Jasikevicius of Panathinaikos has as well, ever since leading the country to the European title in 2003.

    In Italy, Ksistof Lavrinovic has underlined his status as one of the premier big men in Europe at Montepaschi Siena, the same team that Lithuanian compatriot Rimantas Kaukenas led to last year's Lega A crown.

    There are Lithuanians everywhere, including America where you find Linas Kleiza, who has been outstanding with the Denver Nuggets the past two seasons, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas, the center who helped fire Cleveland into the NBA Finals for the first time last year.

    Darius Songaila is also a solid power forward/center with the Washington Wizards.
    Another sign that basketball is number one in Lithuania is that the country's national team is always in the reckoning for honors, and the fans of the national team follow it everywhere.

    By winning the bronze medal at last year's FIBA Europe Championship in Spain, the Lithuanian men booked another trip to an Olympic Games.

    Lithuania will also host the FIBA Europe Championship in 2011.

    The 2.2m Sabonis, once considered by many to be the best player in the world, was a great passer, rebounder and could shoot from anywhere on the floor.

    He retired after the 2004-05 campaign.

    "The truth is that I don't miss the court because when I stopped playing, I was exhausted," he said.

    "I had many years in my career and the time comes in a player's career when it ends and that's that.

    "I am satisfied with what I did on the court during my time as a player but now, I don't miss it.

    "It is true, however, that it's easier to play than to see things happening on the court and not being able to do anything about it."


    Life is good for Kaunas-born Sabonis, who calls two places home - Lithuania and Spain. He has a house in Malaga.

    "Now I do more things but I continue to be involved with basketball," he said.

    "I am president of Zalgiris, and I also work with basketball schools with the children, which is very gratifying.

    "I have more time to be with the family although I spend my time between Malaga and Lithuania."
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    The great Sabas commenting his inclusion among the 50 greatest basketball contributors in Europe and some other issues: http://217.13.116.51/finalfour06/fla...rs_sabonis.flv
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