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    We have one mediocre Pg Kerem Tunçeri,he played his best basketball of his life and he ll surely quit in few years the NT And we dont have any good PG nominee instead of him(even we dont have any mediocre candidate)
    Hedo is 31 years old.Also he will quit the NT soon.
    We dont have sharp shooter as Ibrahim Kutluay,and also have no nominee for such ability.Maybe Ersan,but he is not pure shooter still for me.Maybe he will be.
    Okur got old also and he is having all the time injury problems.
    Just our best side is on Inside area.That we have Asık and esp. Erden who are very young and can serve for NT for many years.

    So we must quickly fill the gaps as i mentioned.if not we wont be nowhere for few years.

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    EC in Lithuania 2011, Turkey places 8th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha12 View Post
    EC in Lithuania 2011, Turkey places 8th.

    thanks,very detailed interpretation ,i m very proud of your heroes...

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    Turkish NT will be stronger next year.Probably Enes Kanter and Mehmet Okur will be in squad.We will be one of the candidate for playing in final.
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    PG : Kenan Sipahi - Dogus Balbay - Kartal Özmızrak
    SG : Melih Mahmutoğlu - Furkan Korkmaz - Cedi Osman
    SF : Metecan Birsen - Okben Ulubay
    PF : Ersan Ilyasova - Ilkan Karaman - Furkan Aldemir
    C : Omer Asik - Enes Kanter - Emircan Kosut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha12 View Post
    EC in Lithuania 2011, Turkey places 8th.
    Haha, show a little respect for the team that demolished yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by UMUT_FB_LAL View Post
    Haha, show a little respect for the team that demolished yours
    Hey i am sorry the OP asked a question i answered, if you don't like it GTFO

    So after you hosted the 2001 EC and took 2nd place how did you place in the next competitions and the competitions after that? Exactlly!

    And lol sure you demolished us, without almost our whole starting 5 good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by artorius View Post
    thanks,very detailed interpretation ,i m very proud of your heroes...
    Not a nice way to treat the first guy that answered your question.

    I don't think the Turks will be worse than this year, but other teams (especially Spain, if Pau is playing) may be a lot stronger.

    I expect France and Germany to also be significantly stronger.

    So, I think that Turkish success will (of course) depend upon who they meet in the knock-out stage, I can see them going from silver (ok, maybe even gold, but if they get extremely lucky) to 8th place.

    P.S. I have a question for our Turkish friends.
    I have noticed that you have frequently used 'Respect us' or 'Respect the team...' (& similar stuff involving 'Respect').
    Is 'Respect' commonly used in such phrases in Turkish or something?
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    It's very hard to say what Turkey will do during the next Eurobasket. As many posters in this forum suggest, the home court advantage is a very important factor. So the question is, can Turkey maintain a good level outside Turkey?

    In part, they definately can, since we saw quite a strong Turkey aquad in Poland as well. But that Turkey did not reach the medals, not to mention that the Eurobasket in Poland was full of absentees.

    Also some of Turkey's players are getting old (Gonlum, Turkoglou, Tunceri, Onan), but on the other hand some are developing quite good (Asik, Illiasova). So it's fair to say that they will maintain a good level. Even outside Turkey. Whether that's enough for a medal? We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prtzn View Post
    Not a nice way to treat the first guy that answered your question.

    I don't think the Turks will be worse than this year, but other teams (especially Spain, if Pau is playing) may be a lot stronger.

    I expect France and Germany to also be significantly stronger.

    So, I think that Turkish success will (of course) depend upon who they meet in the knock-out stage, I can see them going from silver (ok, maybe even gold, but if they get extremely lucky) to 8th place.

    P.S. I have a question for our Turkish friends.
    I have noticed that you have frequently used 'Respect us' or 'Respect the team...' (& similar stuff involving 'Respect').
    Is 'Respect' commonly used in such phrases in Turkish or something?
    I am not so optimistic for Our NT.We dont have real good PG.Tunceri played well in WC,but he is not so good in general.And Arslan's main ability is long distance 3 pointers.Our main ability is our perfect tough defence and having 2 young quite good(if they can improve theirselves and Asık quits stupid tricks they can be very perfect in the next years) Centers.
    Yeah i think we use it commonly.Saygi göster=show respect we use for such situations.

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    I don't think that we have to worry about our future.

    Top PG Prospects for next years: Dogus Balbay(89), Safak Edge(92), Engin Atsür(85) maybe will get better.

    SG: Evren Büker(85), Melih Mahmutoglu(90), Can Mutaf(91)

    SF: Akyol(87), Birkan Batuk(90), (Emir Preldzic)

    PF: Enes Kanter (92), Deniz Kilicli (90), Ilkan Karaman (90)

    C: Furkan Aldemir (91), Dusan Cantekin (91)


    Not all players will reach top level. But I expect 4-5 of them to be top international players. Still for 2011 we have the same squad. Maybe we can add players like Balbay and Kanter. But most players will stay.

    PG: Tunceri/ Arslan /Balbay
    SG: Güler/ Atsür
    SF: Hedo/Akyol
    PF: Ilyasova/Kanter
    C: Asik/Erden/Savas (Okur)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB-Fan View Post
    I don't think that we have to worry about our future.

    Top PG Prospects for next years: Dogus Balbay(89), Safak Edge(92), Engin Atsür(85) maybe will get better.

    SG: Evren Büker(85), Melih Mahmutoglu(90), Can Mutaf(91)

    SF: Akyol(87), Birkan Batuk(90), (Emir Preldzic)

    PF: Enes Kanter (92), Deniz Kilicli (90), Ilkan Karaman (90)

    C: Furkan Aldemir (91), Dusan Cantekin (91)


    Not all players will reach top level. But I expect 4-5 of them to be top international players. Still for 2011 we have the same squad. Maybe we can add players like Balbay and Kanter. But most players will stay.

    PG: Tunceri/ Arslan /Balbay
    SG: Güler/ Atsür
    SF: Hedo/Akyol
    PF: Ilyasova/Kanter
    C: Asik/Erden/Savas (Okur)
    Yes Atsür,i forgot how about his injury.I know Şafak,he gives me hope for PG position,but let s give him 1-2 years.

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    Of course. I think that 2012 all 79 generation players will quit their NT career. No Hedo, no Tunceri and no Okur anymore. The 87 generation will have to take the leadership. So 2013 there will be a completely new squad.

    PG: Atsür/Balbay/Edge
    SG: Büker/Mutaf
    SF: Ilyasova/Akyol
    PF: Kanter/ Kilicli
    C: Asik/Aldemir/Savas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha12 View Post
    Hey i am sorry the OP asked a question i answered, if you don't like it GTFO

    So after you hosted the 2001 EC and took 2nd place how did you place in the next competitions and the competitions after that? Exactlly!

    And lol sure you demolished us, without almost our whole starting 5 good job
    Wow, what an aggression
    You should have a beer

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    We will/should be a contender in 2011. In Poland, nevermind the 8th place, we were 1 OT loss away from the semi-final. We know what happened this year, and this team is getting better.

    The backbone of the team is intact:
    Tunceri/Atsur/Guler/Ilyasova/Asik/Savas/Erden

    + the likely fillers:
    Akyol/Buker/Kanter/Arslan/Onan/Gonlum/Balbay/Ozer/Aldemir

    Hedo and Okur are not critical for our NT's success, and can be replaced by currently better options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levenspiel View Post
    We will/should be a contender in 2011. In Poland, nevermind the 8th place, we were 1 OT loss away from the semi-final. We know what happened this year, and this team is getting better.

    The backbone of the team is intact:
    Tunceri/Atsur/Guler/Ilyasova/Asik/Savas/Erden

    + the likely fillers:
    Akyol/Buker/Kanter/Arslan/Onan/Gonlum/Balbay/Ozer/Aldemir

    Hedo and Okur are not critical for our NT's success, and can be replaced by currently better options.
    Plus, you won against both finalists.
    And in group stage, you lost only to a very strong, but unlucky, Slovenia.

    BTW, Ilyasova @#6
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    Yunus Çankaya is performing well in Turk Telekom.Maybe he can be in NT squad this year.Also Furkan Aldemir and Birkan Batuk from Karşıyaka look good this year but I think they won't be in NT this year but probably we will watch them in NT next years.Here are the stats of this players :

    Yunus Çankaya : http://basketbol.tblstat.net/pd.asp?p=806
    Birkan Batuk : http://basketbol.tblstat.net/pd.asp?p=1321
    Furkan Aldemir : http://basketbol.tblstat.net/pd.asp?p=1449
    Turkish National Team in 2016

    PG : Kenan Sipahi - Dogus Balbay - Kartal Özmızrak
    SG : Melih Mahmutoğlu - Furkan Korkmaz - Cedi Osman
    SF : Metecan Birsen - Okben Ulubay
    PF : Ersan Ilyasova - Ilkan Karaman - Furkan Aldemir
    C : Omer Asik - Enes Kanter - Emircan Kosut

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    I think Cankaya is not long enough. If he would be 2.00 he would be a good option cause we have no SF's besides Hedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB-Fan View Post
    I think Cankaya is not long enough. If he would be 2.00 he would be a good option cause we have no SF's besides Hedo.
    Probably Ersan İlyasova will play as SF after Hedo retired from NT and Enes Kanter will play instead of Ersan as PF.
    Turkish National Team in 2016

    PG : Kenan Sipahi - Dogus Balbay - Kartal Özmızrak
    SG : Melih Mahmutoğlu - Furkan Korkmaz - Cedi Osman
    SF : Metecan Birsen - Okben Ulubay
    PF : Ersan Ilyasova - Ilkan Karaman - Furkan Aldemir
    C : Omer Asik - Enes Kanter - Emircan Kosut

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    yes maybe thats the only option we have. Akyol is a big dissapointment for all turkish bball fans. this guy plays for money and girls. otherwise he wouldn't got to a team where he is on bench all season.

    In next Generations there is also a sf problem. Birkan Batuk is a joke for me. and Metecan Birsen has 5-6 years to go, to reach top level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB-Fan View Post
    yes maybe thats the only option we have. Akyol is a big dissapointment for all turkish bball fans. this guy plays for money and girls. otherwise he wouldn't got to a team where he is on bench all season.

    In next Generations there is also a sf problem. Birkan Batuk is a joke for me. and Metecan Birsen has 5-6 years to go, to reach top level.
    Cenk Akyol improved himself while he was playing in Italian League.If he stayed there that would be good for him but he isn't getting minutes in Efes Pilsen squad.He should leave from Efes and go to abroad.Maybe that will be the only option for improve himself.

    We have talented point guards for future and I wish they will improve themselves.I'm waiting very much things from Kenan Sipahi,Erbil Eroğlu and Şafak Edge.
    Turkish National Team in 2016

    PG : Kenan Sipahi - Dogus Balbay - Kartal Özmızrak
    SG : Melih Mahmutoğlu - Furkan Korkmaz - Cedi Osman
    SF : Metecan Birsen - Okben Ulubay
    PF : Ersan Ilyasova - Ilkan Karaman - Furkan Aldemir
    C : Omer Asik - Enes Kanter - Emircan Kosut

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