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I am a firm believer that when a person has parents from different countries that he can choose which country to play for. Therefore the examples of Calathes, Vougioukas, Schortsianities are not really examples that suite this post. A good example of a foreign player playing for an NT that he has no affiliations to are Holden (playing for Russia), Massey (playing for FYROM). These later examples are what should be avoided as it is diminishing the sport and the concept of playing for one's country. I also think that certain exemptions should exist where for example a person with two parents from Country X but was born and raised (or moved when very young and went to school at) Country Y has the right to play for Country Y. I am half Greek but have lived in Greece my entire life (now in London) and have always had a US passport (only got the dual citizenship when I was 17 yrs old)... should this disallow me from playing for Greece (unlikely maybe in American Football )?
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Santiago, Lee, and Peavy have played in the rican BSN league for some time now, I consider them ricans.
Balkman on the other hand probably never even set foot on the island until the CAC games last summer. Still the federation never even new he had rican ties, Balkman was the one that came to the federation with the birth certificates.
If that doesnt say "I cook with sofrito", someone tell me what does.Originally posted by J-Martthe land of the free and the home of the brave is the greatest joke I've ever heard. There is no such thing as liberty and the american dream is more overrated than Japeth Aguilar was when u guys found he was a pinoy
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Originally posted by red7 View PostCorrection.. Russian.
ilyas is arabic name which is very common in TR.get more cultured,before making some comment.
as far as i know he is Crimean Tatar or Uzbek origin.Both are Turkic nations.(like norwegians and germans are germanic).and every NT drafts guys from other nations.Nowadays ethnic origins are not important for sports.Most important stuff is who is caring him,giving chance,giving opportunities etc.
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Originally posted by artorius View Postilyas is arabic name which is very common in TR.get more cultured,before making some comment.
as far as i know he is Crimean Tatar or Uzbek origin.Both are Turkic nations.(like norwegians and germans are germanic).and every NT drafts guys from other nations.Nowadays ethnic origins are not important for sports.Most important stuff is who is caring him,giving chance,giving opportunities etc.
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Originally posted by artorius View Postilyas is arabic name which is very common in TR.get more cultured,before making some comment.
as far as i know he is Crimean Tatar or Uzbek origin.Both are Turkic nations.(like norwegians and germans are germanic).and every NT drafts guys from other nations.Nowadays ethnic origins are not important for sports.Most important stuff is who is caring him,giving chance,giving opportunities etc.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by red7 View PostIlyas may be Arabic, however, Ilyasova definitely sounds like a russian name. I am not familiar with his exact origins but what I do know is that the ending is russian. And since when is it that we decisively know where a person is from through his surname? Is Kaimakoglou of Turkish origin? Maybe in your mind all of the Greeks are of Turkish origin as well... Have I missed something? Norway is not a Germanic nation by the way.
-Kaimakoglou and Perperoglou i guess they are Anatolian Greek originally.Which culturally affected by Turkish people.As living together for 500 years both nations afected eacht other by culturally and quite similar in many style of cultural habits.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples.Check here and learn sth.I think when somebody says Germanic u just understand Germans,Austrians and swiss Germans.Before making comment get some knowledge please.
-Ilyasova is a drafted guy for Turkish national team from a Turkic nation(Crimean Tatar or Uzbek).(many of them have surnames with Russian endings cause of last 150-200 years of Russian cultural pressure.He could be black,aborigine or eskimo.We dont live in an Ethnically walled world anymore.
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostTurkic origin? Sounds a little bit silly. Maybe Illyasova could play for Tajikistan or Turkmenistan, since these countries are also Turkic. Or maybe Turkoglou should play for Azerbaijan. Wait, how about Barbosa play for France, since both Brazil and France are Latin.
-i never said any guy from from any Turkic nation can play for Turkey.I say in the modern world every NTs drafts some foreignors.And if the player choose this country then no problem.İf Turkoglu would like the play Azerbaijan or Serbia or Uganda he could play,cause it is his choice and the Drafter country's care on the player.(giving chance,teaching him,giving money to secure,teaching sport better way bla bla)
-Barbosa could play in any NT depends on his choice.Not cause of he is Latin and France is Latin.But He could choose rather Portugese cause of culturally and linguistically more closer to his home country then France.Ilyasova chose Turkey i gues cause Linguistically and Culturally he is closer to Turkey.And Turkish sports manager cared him.But anyway it was his choice he could choose any other country.
Kapisz....Got it..
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Originally posted by LuÃz for 3 View PostSomeone said they don't even talk spanish!! Do you consider them legitimate Puerto Ricans?Originally Posted by -K2- View Post
16 free throws in the last 4 minutes...
Puerto Rico had 20 the whole game
Seriosuly... someone quote this whole post and signature me... Greek Loby Rulz
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Originally posted by artorius View PostRather you and your comments are silly.
-i never said any guy from from any Turkic nation can play for Turkey.I say in the modern world every NTs drafts some foreignors.And if the player choose this country then no problem.İf Turkoglu would like the play Azerbaijan or Serbia or Uganda he could play,cause it is his choice and the Drafter country's care on the player.(giving chance,teaching him,giving money to secure,teaching sport better way bla bla)
-Barbosa could play in any NT depends on his choice.Not cause of he is Latin and France is Latin.But He could choose rather Portugese cause of culturally and linguistically more closer to his home country then France.Ilyasova chose Turkey i gues cause Linguistically and Culturally he is closer to Turkey.And Turkish sports manager cared him.But anyway it was his choice he could choose any other country.
Kapisz....Got it..PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011
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Originally posted by Victorious View PostPoint is been made. Illyasova is an Uzbek who choose to play for Turkey. He has a right to do so, but to whatever linguistic group Uzbekistan belongs is irrelevant. And mentioning it is rather silly. He is still an import. You act as if, him belonging to a Turkic/Altaic nation, is like he's a German Turk playing for Turkey. That would be worth mentioning.
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Originally posted by artorius View Post-there are millions of non russians having russian surname endings as -ov,-ova,-ev,-eva.
-Kaimakoglou and Perperoglou i guess they are Anatolian Greek originally.Which culturally affected by Turkish people.As living together for 500 years both nations afected eacht other by culturally and quite similar in many style of cultural habits.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples.Check here and learn sth.I think when somebody says Germanic u just understand Germans,Austrians and swiss Germans.Before making comment get some knowledge please.
-Ilyasova is a drafted guy for Turkish national team from a Turkic nation(Crimean Tatar or Uzbek).(many of them have surnames with Russian endings cause of last 150-200 years of Russian cultural pressure.He could be black,aborigine or eskimo.We dont live in an Ethnically walled world anymore.
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