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    The parallels between the beginning of LeBron and AD’s careers are striking. Both were automatic no brainer sure bet number one picks that were guaranteed to be stars. And both Cleveland and New Orleans did horrible jobs and surrounded them with crap for their first 6 or 7 years. Wasted years especially for AD, at least LeBron was able to overcome and get to a finals and drag a couple of garbage teams in ‘09 and ‘10 that resulted in him winning league MVP’s but AD was not LeBron. They finally gave up hope and left or asked out. Now here they are together about to take over the league for the next couple of years.

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    As a basketball fan I hope Kawhi Leonard doesn’t sign with the Lakers. That would ruin the league like Durant going to the Warriors. Thankfully I don’t see it. Los Angeles obviously will try but I can’t see Kawhi doing that. If he did who would be their competition ? Giannis ? A 32 year old gimpy Durant coming off an Achilles injury ? At least with the Warriors formation you had the best player in the world who had 3 championships on his resume in theory to battle them, now you would have nothing. But like I said it won’t happen.

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    I wonder how Paul George is feeling. He probably could have signed with the Lakers last summer went home played with LeBron and would have had Anthony Davis join them eventually through trade of free agency. Instead he hitched his wagon to Westbrook and Oklahoma City and is now on a team in cap jail. Sometimes you need your agent to slap you in the face when warranted to snap you out if it before you make a decision like that.

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    If Lakers go with Kemba, what is his salary going to be?

    Kemba, x, Caruso
    x, KCP, x
    LeBron, x, Bonga
    Kuzma, x, Wagner
    A.Davis, x, x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    If Lakers go with Kemba, what is his salary going to be?
    Around 30 million.

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    The internal debate right now is whether they go for one guy like Kemba, Or Jimmy Butler.
    I think they would absolutely do it for Kyrie Irving. Or spread it out between 3 $10 million dollar or 2 $15 million dollar players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    Around 30 million.
    So another 30-35 million to fill other 8 players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    If Lakers go with Kemba, what is his salary going to be?

    Kemba, x, Caruso
    x, KCP, x
    LeBron, x, Bonga
    Kuzma, x, Wagner
    A.Davis, x, x
    You can throw in a couple of NBA veterans that will ring chase and play for the minimum. Like David West did in Golden State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efesdxb View Post
    So another 30-35 million to fill other 8 players

    If you pay one star then you have him LeBron, AD, and Kuzma as your main 4.
    Wagner, Caruso are like your number 9-10 guys. 10-12 are irrelevant. So basically you are talking about really like 4 guys.
    A couple of veterans on the minimums and whatever and there’s your team. Top 7 and sometimes 8 guys are all that really matter on championship teams most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    The internal debate right now is whether they go for one guy like Kemba, Or Jimmy Butler.
    I think they would absolutely do it for Kyrie Irving. Or spread it out between 3 $10 million dollar or 2 $15 million dollar players.
    I would go for Kemba. In my opinion better fit than anybody else.
    Keep KCP, get Daniel Theiss for back up C, a low profile but reliable shooting guard playing 10-15 mins. Maybe Wesley Matthews.
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    It’s a tough call that can go either way. Would you rather have Kemba or Danny Green and Malcolm Brogdon.
    Or Jimmy Butler as opposed to Patrick Beverly and Bogdanovic ?
    I think if it’s Kyrie Irving you do it no matter what.

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    If Kawhi goes to LA I imagine it will be to the Clippers, not the Lakers. Unlike Durant when he signed with the Warriors, Kawhi's already a two time finals MVP he's got nothing to prove, and I can't see him wanting to be a part of Lebron drama.

    On the next move, Kemba would be the best realistic player, but he's spent the last month constantly upping the Hornets saying it's his 1st priority and that he'd take less than the max to stay. He could be bullshitting but it's odd that he seems to be going out of his way to talk up Charlotte if he's not going to sign there. Butler's probably the go to out of the big names.
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    If I am the Lakers I go big after Khris Middleton or Malcolm Brogdon. This way I drive up the price on probably one of my main competitors and maybe they won’t be able to resign both. This way you improve and hurt them at the same time.

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    Lakers GM when made trade didn't even check that they don't have max left because of some things and dates...now pelicans traded nr 4 pick Davis trade must be sign on 6july, no max money left for Lakers.

    Now when no max left, they are thinking to return their own be 2 pick Russell and pay him seriuos money after trading him just one year ago this Lakers management is hilarious

    Yeah they have LeBron and Davis ,but do somebody believe their gm gonna bring needed players around? Or again gonna go with McGees and Stephenson's of the world?

    They need to give LeBron GM title he would do better job.Even in Davis trade Lakers obviuosly over paid pelicans that had no leverage to getting entire Lakers future in return.

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    Here we go again all of David Griffins friends in the media talking about how stupid the Lakers front office is yet they have LeBron James and Anthony Davis and a lot of cap space and are the favorites to win the championship. That’s what’s hilarious. When you combine the hatred/jealousy of LeBron James with that of the Los Angeles Lakers together you reach incomprehensible proportions. It’s gonna be funny watching the expert media create narratives when the Lakers are hoisting trophies.

    Another hilarious situation is the Boston Celtics. Remember how everyone in the media was shoving them down our throats with all the young players, and future draft picks and they stole Kyrie Irving( which by the way I told everybody 2 years ago when they got him that he was probably a rental) and they were the future of the NBA after the Warriors.
    Huh, how do they look right about now ?
    Like I have said, the media has relationships with front offices that feed them information and have agendas. You have to see beyond all that stuff.
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    Even before Griffith become pelicans GM last summer media was saying same thing about Lakers office putting around LeBron not shoters,but crazy guys and we all saw in ended last season...Those talks have seriuos reasons,what lakers done in this 6 years of tanking was just stupid...with such brand to be so bad in so long says it all...Lakers in first 50+in NBA missed the playoofs only 7 times overall...with Jerry Buss passing away they missed playoofs 6 straight years...this was is a mess.

    Trophies? Really only banwagoners can't dream like that...you have 3 players others sign with minimum and you win chip sure it that easy warriors had Hampton 5 and it was obviuos they lack of depth was seriuos problem in this playoofs ,when players must do too much injuries happens...we will see how those Lakers gonna win a ring with 3 players and bunch of role players.

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    Bandwagoners huh ? Really ? That’s why every casino sports book in the United States has them currently
    as the favorite to win next year’s championship. And that’s with three guys currently on the roster.
    Come on man, sometimes you just have to be fair despite personal disliking of people.

    Last year the Lakers put all those dumb pieces around LeBron for reason. That’s the only type of players you can get on one year expiring deals. They didn’t want to be locked in on contracts going forward,
    I don’t know maybe so they can afford someone let’s say like Anthony Davis as a long term piece of their future. I think that makes some sense to me. But I don’t know maybe I am nuts. Now they have that and room for more players. It was never about last year once they failed to add Paul George to LeBron in free agency. It was about cap flexibility and showcasing their young players in hopes of flipping them for Anthony Davis. Pretty brilliant if you ask me. But again all the media experts have all the answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawshank View Post
    .we will see how those Lakers gonna win a ring with 3 players and bunch of role players.
    A bunch of role players ? That’s what you think the rest of the roster will look like ?
    Stick around, especially a couple of weeks from now. With around $25 million still in cap space you are gonna be in for a major shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    A bunch of role players ? That’s what you think the rest of the roster will look like ?
    Stick around, especially a couple of weeks from now. With around $25 million still in cap space you are gonna be in for a major shock.
    Cap limit is around 117 m$, if I am not wrong.
    At the moment Lakers will pay guaranteed:

    Lebron: 37,436,858
    A. Davis: 27,093,019 + %15 trade bonus = 31,156,972
    Deng: 5,000,000
    Moritz Wagner: 2,066,040
    Kuzma: 1,974,600
    I. Bonga: 1,416,852

    Total: 79,051,322
    From 117,000,000 salary cap, 37,948,678 usd to be spent for 10 player. Also that doesn't include mid level exception. Please correct me if I am wrong. Where does this 25m $ issue come from?
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    It can get complicated, but the approximate $25 million refers to the 23.7 with Anthony trade kicker and 27.8 if not applied.
    Yes they have the mid level and there will be many veteran minimums and some with guys ring chasing who are worth a lot more. That’s what will fill out the second half of the roster. I am not concerned with that and it’s historically not as important as it’s made out to be. Yeah depth can get you through a long regular season, but when it’s nut cutting time it’s about your main 7 guys that actually play and even more importantly about your top couple of guys. For next year it’s gonna be hard to put together a better duo than LeBron and AD. Now that money I mentioned will most likely be spent on two free agents. Possibly 3 and still some chance one elite level free agent. So there’s a strong possibility that with Kuzma, LeBron and AD along with two signings at a $12-13 million value per player you will have the best starting 5 on paper in the entire league. As I mentioned earlier you still have the mid level as a 6th man, a couple of veteran ring chasers and then rookie and existing guys like Wagner. It will be more than good enough if of course they totally don’t botch the two signings which I don’t see. Magic is not there anymore.

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