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    Lakers beat the Warriors on Christmas Day.

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    It's a late news, but damn it's just too funny. So the coach Walton goes to the locker room and says that the Lakers should play as a team and guess what "veterans" Beasley and JaVale McGee stars rising their voice against him I mean these two players are one of the biggest if not the very biggest dummies in the entire league. Beasley is the worst chucker I ever seen, like the worst ever. I don't understand how Lebron signed on those two McGee is dumb as anybody as well even if he gave some true value for the Lakers. Dealing with such gang for Walton should be a nightmare How the fuck Magic could go for such idiots. Look at this:

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    Lance Stephenson, Rajon Rondo, Beasley and Javale are all stop gaps on one year expiring contracts. It was never about this year for the Lakers. It’s all about this summer and having all the cap space available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    Lance Stephenson, Rajon Rondo, Beasley and Javale are all stop gaps on one year expiring contracts. It was never about this year for the Lakers. It’s all about this summer and having all the cap space available.
    Good point, but I would really try to avoid open dummies even in this situation if I was GM And to me this Lakers plan to wait one year (at least) to contend when James is 34yo is very fishy to me. He's already a few levels below defensively and probably one level below offensively what he used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    Good point, but I would really try to avoid open dummies even in this situation if I was GM And to me this Lakers plan to wait one year (at least) to contend when James is 34yo is very fishy to me. He's already a few levels below defensively and probably one level below offensively what he used to be.
    No doubt as he’s getting older he is gonna need more help than usual. But he’s a hell of a piece to start with.
    I think it’s a two year plan for the Lakers to win a title. Next year and the year after. LeBron at 35 and 36. And with all that cap space and young assets to trade I think they’ll have a great shot at it.

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    I think the Lakers goal will be to stay away from the Warriors side of the bracket. They can be the #6 or #7 not higher or lower in order to avoid them until the West Finals. With a healthy LeBron I think this is a very realistic possibility. I think they can beat Denver, OKC, and Houston in a 7 game series.

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    So year one of LeBron did not go as planned. The team was playing well and was #4 in the West and had just beat the Warriors when LeBron went down to injury. More injuries followed as well as Anthony Davis trade deadline drama and the team collapsed. Some key numbers to remember:
    Lakers 28-27 with LeBron
    21-14 at time of injury
    15-8 with LeBron and three youngsters (Ball, Kuzma, and Ingram)

    Although missing the playoffs is a disappointment, this year was really about opening up cap space with one year deals that are now expiring and off the books. And evaluating the young talent. The next two years will tell the story. With the Warriors inevitably about to be broken up, who joins the Lakers and how does the new NBA landscape look ?
    Many LeBron haters in the media are in all their glory right now but I’ve seen this movie before when they doubted him to this degree. I would never bet against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usagre View Post
    So year one of LeBron did not go as planned. The team was playing well and was #4 in the West and had just beat the Warriors when LeBron went down to injury. More injuries followed as well as Anthony Davis trade deadline drama and the team collapsed. Some key numbers to remember:
    Lakers 28-27 with LeBron
    21-14 at time of injury
    15-8 with LeBron and three youngsters (Ball, Kuzma, and Ingram)

    Although missing the playoffs is a disappointment, this year was really about opening up cap space with one year deals that are now expiring and off the books. And evaluating the young talent. The next two years will tell the story. With the Warriors inevitably about to be broken up, who joins the Lakers and how does the new NBA landscape look ?
    Many LeBron haters in the media are in all their glory right now but Ive seen this movie before when they doubted him to this degree. I would never bet against him.
    Injuries are also the part of his career. When you look at Lebron's career, it's a miracle that he never suffered a serious injury like that before, it happened to Kobe and it happened to MJ, but never happened to Lebron until this year, he needed to return better from that, but he didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
    Injuries are also the part of his career. When you look at Lebron's career, it's a miracle that he never suffered a serious injury like that before, it happened to Kobe and it happened to MJ, but never happened to Lebron until this year, he needed to return better from that, but he didn't.
    Kobe had his injuries similar to the one LeBron had when he was in his 20’s. Jordan’s major injury as well came in his second year. So you can’t compare. It happened to LeBron at 34. When that happened to Kobe he never really recovered and his career was over. Jordan had a nice luxury of taking a year and a half off because of retirement or suspension or whatever that was when he was in his early 30’s. So actually you mentioning those guys is irrelevant to LeBron.

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    The way I see it LeBron has been doubted or his greatness seriously challenged twice before.
    The first was after losing to Dallas in the ‘11 Finals mainly because of his play, and then subsequently being down 3-2 in the East Finals at Boston the following year. He came through and win it that year and the following as well with back to back regular season and finals MVPs.
    The second was after losing game 4 at home and going down 3-1 to Golden State in the ‘16 Finals. He answered that call as well with a historic 3 straight wins and his third title and finals mvp and finally delivering a championship to Cleveland.
    Now after missing the playoffs in LA he is being doubted again and like I said I would not bet against him.

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    Lebron is turning 35 in december and people still thinks he gonna come up next year and be supermen...Those days are over.He have to be smart now,he cant take over the games he wants like he could in 2006-2018.Those days are past.He still can do it,but not everytime .This season he was standing in defence and resting basically not even running,just standing and resting.Because he cant play both sides anymore no energy for that at this age.In summer he needs to reinvent himself and become post up player more where still have huge advantages and will need less energy to score,play less point forward at this age.He will not have energy for entire season playing like that.

    But i said many times before here at after age of 34 decline starts very suddenly...That age Kobe and Garnett lost alot ( and they both like Lebron was very into being in shape) and they all started playing since 18 in nba.Just time and 15+ of seasons grind is eventually getting to your body no matter what you do.After turning 35 with first seriuos injury both Kobe and Garnett become only shadows in themselfs.

    Next season is last one when Lebron can be number 1 option for winning playoofs team (he will be in playoffs 35,5 old).Lakers needs other superstar to get in summer just must,if not they will struggle making playoofs in very competitive west again even if Lebron plays all 82 games next season.

    In the east could win like 48 games and be 4th seed (also playign mostly against east teams).In west you need 46-47 to make the playoofs mostly playing againts west teams.
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    The only question now for the Lakers is with LeBron, Anthony Davis and Kuzma on board and about 30 million in cap space do they go for another superstar or 2 role players. It’s a tough call that has pros and cons on both sides. For example Kemba Walker or Jimmy Butler. Or guys like Danny Green, JJ Redick. And you will always have the ring chasing veterans that will play for the minimum to fill out your roster as well.

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    People are about to realize how good Anthony Davis truly is. His situation is very similar to Lebron’s first years in Cleveland when they never surrounded him with any serious talent. Now similar to when Shaq joined the Lakers in the summer of 1996 his star is about to shine big time. He will be 27 years old during the playoffs and his best years are ahead of him.
    He will follow the great lineage of championship Laker big men that came there through trade or free agency, Wilt-Kareem-Shaq-Pau Gasol (not on this level but an excellent player that was the best big man in the league for a couple of years).

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    Compared to Pacers and Spurs pelicans got way more in return for their franchise player.Nr 2, Nr.2,Nr.4 picks,good young player Hart and 2 more first rounders that's basically entire Lakers future.

    After 3 years when LeBron gets very old, Davis gonna look around and see in Lakers is in worse situation that it was in pelicans.

    The winner is LeBron James and pelicans in this trade.I don't consider Lakers as winner when for 2 good years run and chance to win you sacrifised almost everything, all your treasure you got in 5years of tanking.

    That's bad business 5 years of tanking...get 2 superstars and 3 good years and again 5 years tanking...after 3 years Davis will want out of that Lakers without no young players left...

    Lakers better now win a ring in next 2 years or you gonna be like all LeBron former teams no young players, no drafts and go to bottom of standings,because you are giving everything for a chance to win...no plan b

    Atleast former lebron teams got best player in the world on their risks, Lakers got 35 years old LeBron thats big difference,but this is Los angeles were stars shine
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    @Shawshank. You are so wrong it’s not even funny. They will have Anthony Davis in his prime, Kyle Kuzma their best young player of the ones they gave up as well. That’s just silly media talk that makes absolutely no sense. Let’s fast forward 3 years from now. They will have won a championship or more that’s probably a guarantee. Now you will have Anthony Davis locked up and you are the Lakers that will always attract the best players. Are you seriously gonna sit there and tell me those draft picks they gave up are really gonna mean anything ? They are not going to be lottery picks rather in the 20’s
    every year. It’s so hilarious that everyone thought those young guys on the Lakers were trash assets when they were going to be Lebron’s only future, Lonzo can’t shoot, Ingram has Chris Bosh blood clot disease, but now that LA flipped them for Anthony Davis a top 5 player in the league who will not be a rental and will sign long term they gave up too much.
    That’s just LA hate and jealousy talking. Except in this case the hate and jealousy of the Lakers is real. Just ask Greg Popovich. They haven’t had a mini run that eventually will end like the Spurs or Warriors. Their run has lasted 40 years.
    10 championship in that time frame, no one is even close. And now with Anthony Davis theirs it will only continue.
    The big thing people are missing here is that the Lakers made out short term and long term. Imagine if Anthony Davis had never stated that he wanted to play for the Lakers but rather any team except New Orleans that he got traded to would be fine with him, every team would have mortgaged everything for him.

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    all biggest NBA analysed is saying same thing.But you understand better than all of them?

    Kids that looks only on short length can say yeah Lakers won, but looking more than 2 years ahead this can become a robbery depending how those 6 pelicans players will look in the future , especially if Davis stays in Lakers only 2-3years LeBron run and won't be in rebuilt at age of 30 after LeBron becomes washed up.


    If you would offer such package even spurs would had gave Kawhi and Indiana George no brainer. I mean 3 top 4picks ...nobody is giving su much and usually don't even have.remember neither of 3 franchises had any choice or they loosing their star for nothing and to get such huge package is very nice trade for pelicans.

    Title in first year? that's very optimistic when lakers have 4 players and only 30million to buy other spots.Half of the team will be veterans over 32 and in 3 years Davis looks around he wants to get traded again that's reality of what Lakers is doing.

    Davis didn't show anything in playoffs to say he can lead team anywhere and LeBrons at 35 any more seriuos injury is game over for him.Alot of things will have to go Lakers way to even win those 3 serries in deep west playoofs first year together with no chemistry and no bench.
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    @Shawshank.
    A big part of all those analysts is they are friends with David Griffin and hate Rob Pelinka and the Lakers. Those are just facts so consider that when you hear their analysis.

    And again the big part you are missing in this trade when comparing Kawhi and Paul George that those guys were long shots too resign so they were viewed as rentals. Anthony Davis is not a rental. You have to understand the difference.
    And I think Indiana actually did pretty good in their trade because they got Victor Oladipo. Let me know which one of the Laker pieces traded will turn out to be something as good as that.

    And if you are trying to minimize Anthony Davis because of his lack of playoff productivity you are definitely pulling my leg.
    With what teammates and which teams in the West was he supposed to beat ? Come on now, I know you don’t like a LeBron and like I predicted when everyone was piling on him that he would land on his feet but please a little objectivity here.

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    A title in first year is not that optimistic. There’s a reason they are the favorite right now in all sports books and that’s with more big pieces to come. Who would worry me if I am the Lakers ? The Bucks ? The best they can do is send their exact same roster back if they resign everyone. There’s no Warriors out there anymore. It’s the Lakers in the drivers seat yes in the first year because they have 2 of the top 5 players in the world on their team and more pieces to come.

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    @Shawshank
    You have to be able to see through a lot of these analysts and their agendas. Friendships with GMS who they use as sources
    And stuff like that. I’ll give you another example. All the talk was that the Lakers 4th pick in the draft was not that valuable because this is a 3 player draft when the Lakers owned it. Now it’s such a great pick and teams will trade a ready made all star for it. What changed ? The Lakers are universally despised around the league. And this version with Pelinka and Rambis even more. Again all the talk about a mess they were and a dumpster fire and nobody wants to go there. Yet LeBron and AD wanted to go there. Now they are gonna conveniently forget all that non sense they were saying.

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    I think Kemba Walker might be the next realistic acquisition by the Lakers. Owner Michael Jordan is notoriously cheap except when it comes to his degenerate gambling affairs so there is a chance he won’t offer the max contract.
    Kyrie Irving is probably their most preferred option but he’s set on the New York City teams. Jimmy Butler a possibility as well. Then there are other guys like Khris Middleton or Malcolm Brogdon. Or Bojan Bogdanovic, Patrick Beverly, Danny Green, JJ Redick and others. In a couple of weeks this team will look like a juggernaut and the clear favorite next year.

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